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I've heard about this requirement for eligibility for 2013 Worlds and 4 Cs but have seen no information. Can someone give highlights please?

There's a thread on Golden State about it (and apparently one on FSU):

http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/showthrea...um-Requirements

I haven't read it yet though. First I gotta google what TES stands for... :hide:

ETA: Technical Element Score :)

Okay, y'all, I'm sorry for being a complete figure skating ignoramus but I've been wondering this for a while: What does SB stand for? As in...

When I google "SB AND figure skating", all I get is Surya Bonali! :lol:


ETA: :success: Thank you Melinda!

SB stands for 'season best' score.

Just to make sure I'm getting this right.

In order to compete in 4Cs and / or Worlds for 2013 those minimum scores must be earned in an international event prior to the National competitions.

Do senior B events count? Nebelhorn for instance? Salt Lake City? ( or is its status unknown at this time?)

Does that mean even if a skater medals high enough at Nationals, if they do not have the minimum score by then, they would not be able to be selected for either of those competitions?

Wouldn't that restrict the "freedom" of choice of the ISU member federations?

Is this supposed to be an improvement over qualifying rounds? Not sure it is. What about countries whose skating programs do not have skaters who are yet able to meet those minimums. Seems a step backward for them. Tho' isn't every member federation allowed to send one skater?

The Quagmire that is the ISU rulebook just gets more and more bogged down. So intricate and convoluted it's almost impossible for any coach and or skater /team to decipher. :rolleyes: Never mind us fans who only want to see the skaters compete at their best.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

The minimum TES score for 4CC & WC can be earned at a Senior B or a GP event. Moreover, the skater can earn the minimum SP score and minimum FS score at different competitions.

There would not be enough time between US Nationals and 4CC for the skater to earn the minimum TES before 4CC; therefore, the skater would have to have met the minimum TES score prior to Nationals. There is a Senior B held between US Nationals and the WC (Challenge Cup) where a skater could try and earn the minimum score prior to the WC.

If a skater were to finish first or second at US Nationals, and did not have the minimum TES scores for 4CC and/or WC then they could not compete in those events.

The minumum TES score requirement was put in place after the majority of the ISU members voted at the ISU Congress to end the preliminary rounds. Ending the preliminary rounds was not something the ISU advocated. To keep the number of competitors at a manageable level, the ISU implemented the minimum score requirement. The ISU also reserved the right to raise or lower the minimum score requirement later in the season.

:thankyou: Melinda, for the summary. Helps a lot!! :thumbup:

From reading Sonia Bionchiatetti's book, ending the preliminary or qualifying round was for the skaters' benefit because it meant they had to skate their free program twice. Without the qualifying round, the skaters they had to qualify by placing in the top 24 in the SP. This meant the judges would have to sit through 50 some sp's, some by skaters who were really skating at a novice level, and it took very long time. So another system had to be put in place. One alternative was to use Europeans and 4CC's are the qualifying events, but not all qualifying skaters participated at those events, especially 4CC's. So it seems to me that this minimum score requirement may be reasonable for Worlds, but not for 4CC's. 4CC's is where we often saw the skaters from Australia, South Africa, Philipines, etc, that we would not see at Worlds. It is from 4CC's that I think they should not be withheld. It is still an international event, just not as prestigious as Worlds, but one where they would have more of an opportunity to skate. This is what I think.

So what does this mean for Evan??

Help!

Please don't tell me that, even if he WINS Nationals, he won't be able to go to worlds because of some dumb points rule!! Is there any chance he can get a Senior B competition this late? (I thought someone said those assignments were handed out in August!). Will he even be able to qualify for Worlds, or even 4CC's?

And I totally agree about the minimum score thing. What about those countries that cannot get their athletes the required points for Worlds? That seems desperately unfair to me.

reassure me, quick. Tell me Evan will be able to do Worlds this year.

Thanks!

-me

There are November deadlines to enter the two Senior B's that are scheduled in December (NRW Trophy has an early November dealine, and Golden Spin of Zagreb has a min-November deadline).

If Evan does not get to compete at an ISU event prior to 4CC, due to injury, the ISU could possibly waive the minimum TES score requirement for 4CC and let him compete at 4CC. Last year, the ISU let Plushenko skate at the European Championship even though he had not competed in an ISU event to earn the minimum score. (Last year there was a minimum total score requirement, this year there is a minimum TES score requirement) Plushenko had won Russian nationals, and he cited injuries earlier in the season as preventing him from competing at an ISU event prior to the European Championship. Evan would then have the opportunity to obtain the minimum TES score for the World Championship at 4CC. Furthermore, if Evan was not able to compete at 4CC, he could compete at the Challenge Cup Senior B to earn the minumum TES score for the World Championship.

Regardless of the scenario, Evan is not going to have many chances to earn the minimum TES scores.