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sk8tinglvr - October 9, 2010 06:17 AM (GMT)
While I was surfing the Barnes & Noble page looking to order Apolo Ohno's book & another book & was looking for figure skating books I found a book called "Triumph On Ice: The New World Of Figure Skating" & it mentions Evan being in it. It's suppose to be a book full of pictures of various skaters so should be some nice pictures of Evan in it. It comes out March 2011 so something to keep a look out for. I think I'm going to preorder a copy of it online as it's cheaper than buying it in the store. Here's a link to the book to see & read what it's about.

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Triumph-o...=figure+skating

JessSari - October 9, 2010 10:51 AM (GMT)
Hey great news, thank you! That sound pretty interesting! :thankyou:

merrybari - October 9, 2010 12:40 PM (GMT)
Thanks for the tip, Dawn. Just checked Amazon.com and it's available for pre-order there, too. $19.77. Great list of other figure skating books to add to wish list, too.

LovelyRita - October 9, 2010 08:35 PM (GMT)
Dawn, you've reminded me of another skating book I recently encountered (published before Vancouver) that got everything WRONG about Evan's chances to reach the highest pinnacle in the sport.

"Stars of Figure Skating" was published in late 2009 and made much of the fact the last American men's skater to win Olympic gold was Brian Boitano. (Ah, nothing like being out-of-date so soon after publication.) :rolleyes:

It included about a 10-paragraph write-up on Evan in a chapter on up-and-coming stars. At the end of those 10 paragraphs (which mostly focused on Evan's injuries and problems landing a quad) the writer sort of grudgingly said Evan might have what it takes to become an Olympic champion, but that ultimately the quad still separates the really good male skaters from the great ones.

LOL! Oops. Oh well, at least the book had a gorgeous photo of Evan from 2009 Worlds! :victory:

merrybari - October 9, 2010 09:17 PM (GMT)
Writers have so often been wrong about Evan - they just didn't get that he was on a very carefully charted course and were looking for immediate results instead of the consistent and continuing growth in both physical prowess and mental toughness that has characaterized Evan's career since he partnered with Frank.

And, please, the exact title and author of the book you mention. I'll cross it off my list. :)

MichelleTodd - October 9, 2010 10:26 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (merrybari @ Oct 9 2010, 04:17 PM)
Writers have so often been wrong about Evan - they just didn't get that he was on a very carefully charted course and were looking for immediate results instead of the consistent and continuing growth in both physical prowess and mental toughness that has characaterized Evan's career since he partnered with Frank.

And, please, the exact title and author of the book you mention. I'll cross it off my list. :)

The book is called Figure Skating's Greatest Stars by Steve Milton. I have it and find the photo of Evan to be well worth the price of the whole book; sometimes I just take out the book to drool! More importantly, I found nothing grudging about the comment that Evan had a commanding presence on the ice as well as the technical skills and the artistic sense to be an Olympic and multiple World champion.

#1Evanfan - October 10, 2010 02:26 AM (GMT)
I'll have to pre-order a copy!

LovelyRita - October 10, 2010 03:03 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (MichelleTodd @ Oct 9 2010, 04:26 PM)
QUOTE (merrybari @ Oct 9 2010, 04:17 PM)
Writers have so often been wrong about Evan - they  just didn't get that he was on a very carefully charted course and were looking for immediate results instead of the consistent and continuing growth in both physical prowess and mental toughness that has characaterized Evan's career since he partnered with Frank.

And, please, the exact title and author of the book you mention. I'll cross it off my list. :)

The book is called Figure Skating's Greatest Stars by Steve Milton. I have it and find the photo of Evan to be well worth the price of the whole book; sometimes I just take out the book to drool! More importantly, I found nothing grudging about the comment that Evan had a commanding presence on the ice as well as the technical skills and the artistic sense to be an Olympic and multiple World champion.

Hi Michelle! I must have missed those comments; I only skimmed the paragraphs about Evan. Probably I zeroed in on the mention of quads because of my strong opinion that landing quads does not, by itself, make a great skater. ;)

MichelleTodd - October 11, 2010 12:59 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (LovelyRita @ Oct 9 2010, 10:03 PM)
QUOTE (MichelleTodd @ Oct 9 2010, 04:26 PM)
QUOTE (merrybari @ Oct 9 2010, 04:17 PM)
Writers have so often been wrong about Evan - they  just didn't get that he was on a very carefully charted course and were looking for immediate results instead of the consistent and continuing growth in both physical prowess and mental toughness that has characaterized Evan's career since he partnered with Frank.

And, please, the exact title and author of the book you mention. I'll cross it off my list. :)

The book is called Figure Skating's Greatest Stars by Steve Milton. I have it and find the photo of Evan to be well worth the price of the whole book; sometimes I just take out the book to drool! More importantly, I found nothing grudging about the comment that Evan had a commanding presence on the ice as well as the technical skills and the artistic sense to be an Olympic and multiple World champion.

Hi Michelle! I must have missed those comments; I only skimmed the paragraphs about Evan. Probably I zeroed in on the mention of quads because of my strong opinion that landing quads does not, by itself, make a great skater. ;)

Rita, I agree about the quad, and my real name is Dallene. I just go by "MichelleTodd" to honor my other two favorite skaters, Michelle Kwan and Todd Eldredge.

There are some factual errors in the book, some quite entertaining. For example, the author took the 2009 Four Continents title from Patrick Chan and gave it to Evan! :lol2: How I wish that were true!

merrybari - October 11, 2010 01:04 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (MichelleTodd @ Oct 10 2010, 07:59 PM)
QUOTE (LovelyRita @ Oct 9 2010, 10:03 PM)
QUOTE (MichelleTodd @ Oct 9 2010, 04:26 PM)
QUOTE (merrybari @ Oct 9 2010, 04:17 PM)
Writers have so often been wrong about Evan - they  just didn't get that he was on a very carefully charted course and were looking for immediate results instead of the consistent and continuing growth in both physical prowess and mental toughness that has characaterized Evan's career since he partnered with Frank.

And, please, the exact title and author of the book you mention. I'll cross it off my list. :)

The book is called Figure Skating's Greatest Stars by Steve Milton. I have it and find the photo of Evan to be well worth the price of the whole book; sometimes I just take out the book to drool! More importantly, I found nothing grudging about the comment that Evan had a commanding presence on the ice as well as the technical skills and the artistic sense to be an Olympic and multiple World champion.

Hi Michelle! I must have missed those comments; I only skimmed the paragraphs about Evan. Probably I zeroed in on the mention of quads because of my strong opinion that landing quads does not, by itself, make a great skater. ;)

Rita, I agree about the quad, and my real name is Dallene. I just go by "MichelleTodd" to honor my other two favorite skaters, Michelle Kwan and Todd Eldredge.

There are some factual errors in the book, some quite entertaining. For example, the author took the 2009 Four Continents title from Patrick Chan and gave it to Evan! :lol2: How I wish that were true!

Dallene, good to see you back. It's been a while or I've been missing something. Either way . . .

Thanks for the tip on this book. Just ordered it - along with my pre-order for "Triumph" - sounds like I'm in for a comedy - in the error department at least.

Too sad author's don't at least have researchers to help them get the facts right - these aren't even that hard to find.
:lol:

MichelleTodd - October 11, 2010 03:53 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (merrybari @ Oct 10 2010, 08:04 PM)
QUOTE (MichelleTodd @ Oct 10 2010, 07:59 PM)
QUOTE (LovelyRita @ Oct 9 2010, 10:03 PM)
QUOTE (MichelleTodd @ Oct 9 2010, 04:26 PM)
QUOTE (merrybari @ Oct 9 2010, 04:17 PM)
Writers have so often been wrong about Evan - they  just didn't get that he was on a very carefully charted course and were looking for immediate results instead of the consistent and continuing growth in both physical prowess and mental toughness that has characaterized Evan's career since he partnered with Frank.

And, please, the exact title and author of the book you mention. I'll cross it off my list. :)

The book is called Figure Skating's Greatest Stars by Steve Milton. I have it and find the photo of Evan to be well worth the price of the whole book; sometimes I just take out the book to drool! More importantly, I found nothing grudging about the comment that Evan had a commanding presence on the ice as well as the technical skills and the artistic sense to be an Olympic and multiple World champion.

Hi Michelle! I must have missed those comments; I only skimmed the paragraphs about Evan. Probably I zeroed in on the mention of quads because of my strong opinion that landing quads does not, by itself, make a great skater. ;)

Rita, I agree about the quad, and my real name is Dallene. I just go by "MichelleTodd" to honor my other two favorite skaters, Michelle Kwan and Todd Eldredge.

There are some factual errors in the book, some quite entertaining. For example, the author took the 2009 Four Continents title from Patrick Chan and gave it to Evan! :lol2: How I wish that were true!

Dallene, good to see you back. It's been a while or I've been missing something. Either way . . .

Thanks for the tip on this book. Just ordered it - along with my pre-order for "Triumph" - sounds like I'm in for a comedy - in the error department at least.

Too sad author's don't at least have researchers to help them get the facts right - these aren't even that hard to find.
:lol:

It's good to be back, Mary. Actually, I come and lurk here almost every day. I just haven't had much to say as I haven't been to any of the shows Evan's been in -- those pesky budget constraints and my physical limitations.

I just found that Four Continents error to be especially entertaining as the competition was just last year and Milton and Chan are both Canadians. :lol:

Dallene

CarleyB - October 11, 2010 04:35 AM (GMT)
Glad to see you back Dallene. I have missed you!! :hug:

I am going to take a look at those books too. Currently I am reading one,
Culture On Ice I got it in Lake Placid. It is a rather technical book and hard to get into at first, but now I am speeding along. It contains a ton of interesting info. I hope to share some of it with all of you in what I guess you could call a "book review," when I am finished, especially as the new season is about to begin and we have many new members who are new to figure skating. A lot of history of the sport is included, but it not exactly easy reading. You really have to be a dedicated fan to keep at it.

I have also been reading a large coffee table book put out by USFSA,
The Official Book of Figure Skating. This is one is much easier to read and has lots of history and info on skating stars and a picture of Michele Kwan on the cover.

I have also read one of Christine Brennan's books and there are a lot more that I would like to read.

JoJo - October 14, 2010 03:20 AM (GMT)
I haven't been on the forum for a few days and was thrilled to come back and read about, "Triumph On Ice." You know that will be in my bookcase, after I read it, of course. Thanks for the information.

elover - October 14, 2010 12:07 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (sk8tinglvr @ Oct 9 2010, 01:17 AM)
While I was surfing the Barnes & Noble page looking to order Apolo Ohno's book & another book & was looking for figure skating books I found a book called "Triumph On Ice: The New World Of Figure Skating" & it mentions Evan being in it. It's suppose to be a book full of pictures of various skaters so should be some nice pictures of Evan in it. It comes out March 2011 so something to keep a look out for. I think I'm going to preorder a copy of it online as it's cheaper than buying it in the store. Here's a link to the book to see & read what it's about.

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Triumph-o...=figure+skating

Thanks for the information and the link. :thankyou: I'll pre-order this also to make sure I get a copy. BTW, love how the description on Amazon calls Evan a "new star" in figure skating. :lol2:

merrybari - October 14, 2010 01:00 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (elover @ Oct 14 2010, 07:07 AM)
QUOTE (sk8tinglvr @ Oct 9 2010, 01:17 AM)
While I was surfing the Barnes & Noble page looking to order Apolo Ohno's book & another book & was looking for figure skating books I found a book called "Triumph On Ice: The New World Of Figure Skating" & it mentions Evan being in it. It's suppose to be a book full of pictures of various skaters so should be some nice pictures of Evan in it. It comes out March 2011 so something to keep a look out for. I think I'm going to preorder a copy of it online as it's cheaper than buying it in the store. Here's a link to the book to see & read what it's about.

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Triumph-o...=figure+skating

Thanks for the information and the link. :thankyou: I'll pre-order this also to make sure I get a copy. BTW, love how the description on Amazon calls Evan a "new star" in figure skating. :lol2:

FYI - I pre-ordered mine from amazon.com for $19.77. Thought this might be less expensive than Barnes & Noble (didn't look).

Ellen - October 14, 2010 02:37 PM (GMT)
Thanks everyone for the tips/reviews on skating books. The only one I've read thus far is ... uh oh... the title has slipped my mind. Maybe after I have a cup of coffee. Anyway, it's all about the 1961 tragedy. Darn! What's the title? It's on the tip of my mind. :lol2:

Anyway, I find it very annoying and maddening that authors can't seem to get their facts straight! It shows a lack of respect for the sport. Hmph...


merrybari - October 14, 2010 02:54 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Ellen @ Oct 14 2010, 09:37 AM)
Thanks everyone for the tips/reviews on skating books. The only one I've read thus far is ... uh oh... the title has slipped my mind. Maybe after I have a cup of coffee. Anyway, it's all about the 1961 tragedy. Darn! What's the title? It's on the tip of my mind. :lol2:

Anyway, I find it very annoying and maddening that authors can't seem to get their facts straight! It shows a lack of respect for the sport. Hmph...

I think you mean Frozen in Time :)

I agree - sloppy research is inexcusable, reflects badly on the author, imo and insulting to the subject of the book.

CarleyB - October 14, 2010 08:33 PM (GMT)
I have pre-ordered Triumph on Ice and I am requesting Frozen in Time as a Christmas gift from one of my kids. They never know what to get me and I don't want them spending a lot of money so this will make a perfect gift. I have so many books on my shelves that I haven't read yet, but figure skating books I always manage to read. Wonder why?

sk8tinglvr - October 15, 2010 03:14 AM (GMT)
I preordered my book yesterday of Triumph along with a book on Rick Springfield as I've always liked him & preordered Apolo Ohno's as well. I like reading biographys/autobiographies. A few years ago a friend of mine let me borrow the book on pair skaters Lloyd Eisler & Isabelle Brasseur which was a good book also. I don't think you could get it in the US but this friend had managed to get a copy.

casaverde - October 15, 2010 09:34 AM (GMT)
Thank you for the information. :thankyou: I pre-ordered it on Amazon, but it will cost more expense here.

sk8tinglvr - March 3, 2011 12:24 AM (GMT)
I got my book in the mail today & it's simply gorgeous. The pictures in it are outstanding & such a great book to read. There are lots of pictures of Evan in it & the best of all he is on the cover. They have lots of pictures of the other skaters too from present to some of the future ones. If you haven't ordered your copy I suggest get one because you won't be disappointed with it. Plus there is a couple pages that explain the new judging system & the scoring between Evan & Evegni at the Olympics. :thumbup:

casaverde - March 3, 2011 01:28 PM (GMT)
I just received an e-mail of sending the book from Amazon today. Thanks for your report, Dawn. :thankyou: I'm looking forward to seeing it.

#1Evanfan - March 3, 2011 07:44 PM (GMT)
I'm going to have to order it! It looks great!

CarleyB - March 4, 2011 03:42 AM (GMT)
Mine came one day last week. I was totally surprised because I had completely forgotten about it. What a treat!! Great thing about it, it is a remembrance of all of the 2010 Olympics and of the outstanding champion skaters that we saw in Vancouver and the ones that just missed the podium. I also like the explanation of the IJS. Fans really need to understand the scoring system because I really think it is working in favor of the skater.

I really liked the statement that said, "6.0 was all about the judges, IJS is all about the skaters." I think it has been tweaked enough now to allow more freedom for the skaters to be creative and to include interesting transitions and linking movements. That's why we have seen so many spread eagles back in programs this season. Anything that does not have a direct point value falls under program components.

I am also finally recording the Olympic figure skating I have had on DVR since last year to DVD. It so far has been so much fun to watch all over again. Having been a year ago, it is almost like watching again for the first time, and, as the book said, we really do have some fabulous champions and up-and-coming champions. So far I have finished the pairs and the men. A very disappointing event happened with the men while I was recording. Up popped a message that an error occured and would stop recording temporarily. Then it started again, then stopped again. Then, for some unknown reason to me because this has never happened before, everything that was already on the disc, which was the men's sp, got erased! I have no idea what happened or why. And the worst part is I had already deleted that program from my DVR, so I don't have the men's SP. Of course I have Evan's SP on another DVD that is just Evan, so no harm there, but what a puzzlement! So now I don't delete the program from the DVR until I know I have everything and it is OK. For the men I only have the FS. Now I have to do dance and the ladies. My husband is bugging me to get these programs off the DVR because Worlds is coming up soon (March 21, I think), and I have a habit of filling up the DVR with figure skating.

Back on topic: I love the book and I am going to order one for my daughter, Meredith, if she hasn't ordered one already. She has a collection of figure skating books too.

If you don't have this book, this is one you really should get, Triumph on Ice, with Evan on the cover!! :wub:

Heather - March 4, 2011 04:51 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (CarleyB @ Mar 3 2011, 11:42 PM)
Mine came one day last week. I was totally surprised because I had completely forgotten about it. What a treat!! Great thing about it, it is a remembrance of all of the 2010 Olympics and of the outstanding champion skaters that we saw in Vancouver and the ones that just missed the podium. I also like the explanation of the IJS. Fans really need to understand the scoring system because I really think it is working in favor of the skater.

I really liked the statement that said, "6.0 was all about the judges, IJS is all about the skaters." I think it has been tweaked enough now to allow more freedom for the skaters to be creative and to include interesting transitions and linking movements. That's why we have seen so many spread eagles back in programs this season. Anything that does not have a direct point value falls under program components.

I am also finally recording the Olympic figure skating I have had on DVR since last year to DVD. It so far has been so much fun to watch all over again. Having been a year ago, it is almost like watching again for the first time, and, as the book said, we really do have some fabulous champions and up-and-coming champions. So far I have finished the pairs and the men. A very disappointing event happened with the men while I was recording. Up popped a message that an error occured and would stop recording temporarily. Then it started again, then stopped again. Then, for some unknown reason to me because this has never happened before, everything that was already on the disc, which was the men's sp, got erased! I have no idea what happened or why. And the worst part is I had already deleted that program from my DVR, so I don't have the men's SP. Of course I have Evan's SP on another DVD that is just Evan, so no harm there, but what a puzzlement! So now I don't delete the program from the DVR until I know I have everything and it is OK. For the men I only have the FS. Now I have to do dance and the ladies. My husband is bugging me to get these programs off the DVR because Worlds is coming up soon (March 21, I think), and I have a habit of filling up the DVR with figure skating.

Back on topic: I love the book and I am going to order one for my daughter, Meredith, if she hasn't ordered one already. She has a collection of figure skating books too.

If you don't have this book, this is one you really should get, Triumph on Ice, with Evan on the cover!! :wub:

Forgive my ignorance, but what do you mean by recording your DVR? ;) What is your secret Carley?

As I as I get off ELFF, I am going on Amazon.com!

casaverde - March 4, 2011 01:11 PM (GMT)
I got this book today. It is a finer hard cover book than I expected. I haven't read the long articles. (It must take very long time for me.) But I think it is interesting that the comment attached to each photo is also written from a viewpoint of a judge. It tells how a judge sees the poses and positions during a figure skating performance.
I'm glad that Evan is on the cover. But Amazon and other book shop sites show Tessa and Scott cover. I wonder if there are two version of the cover for USA and for Canada.

elover - March 4, 2011 01:36 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (casaverde @ Mar 4 2011, 08:11 AM)
I got this book today. It is a finer hard cover book than I expected. I haven't read the long articles. (It must take very long time for me.) But I think it is interesting that the comment attached to each photo is also written from a viewpoint of a judge. It tells how a judge sees the poses and positions during a figure skating performance.
I'm glad that Evan is on the cover. But Amazon and other book shop sites show Tessa and Scott cover. I wonder if there are two version of the cover for USA and for Canada.

casa, regarding the cover, sometimes there is a draft cover and a final cover. Sites like Amazon that offer pre-ordering often post the draft cover and don't update to the final cover, at least not immediately.

merrybari - March 4, 2011 01:38 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (elover @ Mar 4 2011, 08:36 AM)
QUOTE (casaverde @ Mar 4 2011, 08:11 AM)
I got this book today. It is a finer hard cover book than I expected. I haven't read the long articles. (It must take very long time for me.) But I think it is interesting that the comment attached to each photo is also written from a viewpoint of a judge. It tells how a judge sees the poses and positions during a figure skating performance.
I'm glad that Evan is on the cover. But Amazon and other book shop sites show Tessa and Scott cover. I wonder if there are two version of the cover for USA and for Canada.

casa, regarding the cover, sometimes there is a draft cover and a final cover. Sites like Amazon that offer pre-ordering often post the draft cover and don't update to the final cover, at least not immediately.

I didn't know that about draft covers Faye. Am glad I pre-ordered as mine has Evan on the cover.




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