An Inconvient Truth, has anyone seen it

I admit, I haven't seen it, but I've heard NOTHING but praise for this movie. Has anyoen seen it? I caught Gore on The Daily Show last night and it just made me want to beat Mr. RB over the head with a frying pan and drag him off to watch it.

I haven't seen it, but I've heard an awful lot of negative press about it.

KT

Eh, I'm not going to see it just because of the subject its covering. Global warming is the most over-politicized science topic out there. I happen to be in the camp that believes that we're in a natural earth cycle, and we're screwed regardless of what we do.

Really, this just boils down to another political flick used to gain publicity. The science involved is watered down, and probably doesn't present any reasonable opposing viewpoint. I've got absolutely no interest in seeing a "science" film revolving around a politician. If I want to watch something on global warming, I'll tune in to the Discovery Channel.

what would the opposing viewpoint be? And the National Academy of Science just issued their massive "Global Warming is Happening" report (and I havne't gotten a copy, but I believe they support the human-caused theory, or the humans are accelerating it theory). There was an excellent feature in the Washington Post magazine on global warming skeptics over the memorial day weekend, which was exceedingly well written but couldn't hide that they're talking in circles.

Regardless of what side you stand on, I thought Gore made an excellent point last night-this IS happening and we're not prepared. 100 million refugees?! Never mind the implications for food production. But no action is being taken in light of what we know in order the better prepare. It really is a catasrophere waiting to happen.

The opposing viewpoint would be "Global warming is a bunch of rubbish and those promoting it are using it to advance their own agenda."

If you'd like, I'll show you stuff which shows that humans have less to do with global warming then you might think.

As for talking in circles, every side does that.

KT

but its still happening, regardless if you accept the premise that its human-induced. And as I said above, we're woefully unprepared for the consequences.

(the grand irnoy, of course, being that its entirely possible that global warming could actually set off a wicked fast climate change, plunging previously temperate and sub-tropical regions into bitterly long winters)

You know what's even more ironic? The fact that plants may be responsible for at least thirty percent of the methane released.

KT

I haven't seen it, but I've only heard good stuff about it. Apparently Al Gore isn't nearly as "wooden" in the movie as he usually is.

Gore loosened up a lot after the election debacle.

Wouldn't most people?

So, have any of you seen it yet? I don't even think it's being shown here.

KT

Not coming out on my side of the world.

Its playing at the AFI theatre in suburban DC, so I think some friends and I may go see it soon (next weekend?). I'll try and have a full report.

Plus the fact that the earth has gone from ice ages to periods of great heat naturaly, we just wernt around to notice and record it before.

The fact is that the "ice age" that modern man pretty much came into being in isnt really over yet, its still ending, hence global warming.

Plus with more warmth means more plants, which means more oxygen, and oxygen breakes down into ozone under the right conditions, which traps more heat.


And remember kiddys, ALL GORE INVENTED TEH INTERNETZ!!!!!!!!!!

Al Gore did not invent the internet and never claimed to. That's one of the biggest urban legends out there.

I know that I will be somewhat alone with my opinion (maybe I even get some answers that don't agree with me at all and give me reasons against it, but that's what a discussion should be about, huh? ). G

Global warming is happening no matter what? Beg my pardon, but it's happening, because we give a damn about our earth. Here in Germany we already had two record-summer in three years. Something that normally should only happen every thousand years as far as I know. Global warming of today is happening so fast ( too fast to be natural), because we, the human race, are polluting our air, water, everything. Global warming IS a big problem. Ask the people in Afrcia, they would be happy if it won't happen. Or look at Venice, who has floods every year and will in the near future drown. They are many many more examples. I really don't understand why you are so careless about it. *takes deep breath*

I didn't see the movie, but if that movie helps to change the opinion of a few people about global warming I'd be more then happy.

The fact is, we DONT know what the true 'normal' weather patterns are. Humans have only been measuring the weather for what, a century basicly ?

Thats not a lot of time to accuratley measure something, especily when were coming OUT of an ice age, which would lead to warming no matter what.

The receding ice age (Al Gores inconvient truth) is the true cause for it. Research and studies have found that winters used to be MUCH more harsh, things used to be colder. That and the increased plant life generating more oxygen.....

not that the polition is good, but truth is humans tend to be egotistical, think they alone can 'save' or 'destroy' the planet. Life on this planet has survived worse, look at the yucatan impact crater (the dino killer one) now THAT was bad. Were still here.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_age < Intersting article......

This post has been edited by Wes Janson on Aug 8 2006, 07:49 AM

if there's even the slightest possibility that we're speeding up already natural warming, do you think we should attempt to stop that? Don't we bear some responsibility for what we've done? And human behavior can and does have a profound effect on our planet. bleached coral. "dead zones" in oceans. increased desertfication. over fishing. extictions of animals through hunting. drastic changes in the ecosystem by removal of predators. humanity is directly responsible for thsoe things, so whats to say we couldn't cause (or at the very least speed up) global warming?

who is Gore?


to the global warming ... wasn't it the US government who didn't agree to the contract reducing CO2
to the humans aren't responsible to the nature ... the Mediterranean Sea is suffering the greatest oil catastrophe ever happened. Since they are playing war in Lebanon a bomb hit an oil company and over 35.000 t flooded into the Sea. What damage really is done nobody can say since the bombing is still going on nobody can clean it.

I think that we are very responsible what is happening in the nature and also to the weather.

I'm pretty sure nature will recover from the damage humans has done to it when there will be no humans anymore.

Wes, as you said nobody knows how normal weather patterns are, but a rising of the temperature from 1.5° C in less then 100 years are surely no "normal weather patterns". I'm sure someone would have noticed such a temperature change earlier. The average temperature here in Vienna is around 10.5 °C meanwhile. Would it be a normal pattern the temperature 500 years ago would assume a temperature of an average temperature of 3° C. I rather think that's absurd.
When you think about, 100 to 150 years ago began the industrial revolution and an explosion of CO2 emissions. From this moment the average temperature was raising.


My family and I have often the discussion about the rising of the temperatures since it’s a very well liked topic in the news.
My parents don’t understand that there can be a global warming with temperatures around 15 to 20 °C in August. What is often forgotten is that the average temperature is less then that.

I really think it’s about time to think what we are doing with our planet before it is too late.
The USA is suffering more hurricanes then ever before, Asia is suffering from storms, Europe has high water on a regular base.

There has always been such catastrophes but never before so many people got hurt or lost homes.

Gore is Al Gore, the former vice president and presidental candidate.

*shrugs* he didn't introduce to myself .. never heard that name before

and I take it it's the canditate in the US of A?

yes, he was.

Wes. Sorry to say this but your reaction was the - pardon US citizens, can't help it - "stick my head in the sand and pretend it won't happen" US citizen who needs his 500hp offroad truck which sucks a gallon of fuel per mile. It is basically the US (and China) which puts up the majority of the carbone dioxide into the atmosphere (last value I heard was around 33%). Once the oil is out your society, your nation as a whole will have a serious crash-landing. Simply because oil makes your country go around and without it ... What then? What will happen once a gallon of fuel costs 15$ ? (At the moment Germany is around 1.45 € per liter of 98oc fuel!)

Germany has drastically reduced its pollution of the air (as a whole) because of technological advance. Some areas over here are actually worth living again (Bitterfeld - once the worst place of eastern Germany) thanks to the drastic reduction. I am usually not a friend of the eco freaks, but there are too many experts agreeing about global warming for me to have a doubt. The only ones doubting them are people who cling to power or who wish to ignore the "inconvenient truths".

This post has been edited by -thor- on Aug 11 2006, 08:27 AM

well said thor

yeah, Al Gore was the vice president under Clinton for all 8 years, and he was the losing side of that big American election debacle back in 2000. Hence the little "I was supposed to be the next president of the United States" line at the beginning of the movie.

Thor, excellent point! And as a US citizen, I couldn't agree with you more.

Well said, Thor.