Stronger, Faster, More Alive!

I've been considering a plot idea that I would like everyone's' input on, since it would have a major impact in the game. Obviously, right now the Predacons are not getting enough love, and we need something to zest up their lives.

Fortunately, I hear nucleon has a lemony-fresh taste.

Okay, here's my idea: The Predacons find a cache of the stuff within their territory, and some have the guts to intake it. And some of those guys would be mutated by the Nucleon--but the result would be cooler than any so-called "Action Masters". Yes, they would lose their abilities to transform, but their beast modes and robot modes would fuse into a single, powerful form. (Maybe like a Transmetal 2 but without the patchwork asymmetry.) Perhaps a fewer still could develop other powers, such as telekinesis or pyrokinesis. I was thinking these "Metalmasters" would look something like this.

What do you all think? Don't be shy! This would have a major effect on the game for everyone and even if you decide not to mutate one of your characters, it would still influence you.

Yay or Nay? Please explain why you like or dislike this idea and if you have any suggestions of your own, we'd love to hear them.

I give a vote of yay

I vote Favoritism. You're favoring the Preds too much. First with the uber powerful leader, and now with robot Angel Dust. Not cool man, not cool.






All kidding aside, yeah, why the heck not.

I like the idea!

To me it's fresh and interesting, should go down a storm among Predacons - and the Maximals they beat up - so it's a yay from me

Not entirely sure on this one as to me it offers too much of a chance for god-playing which could damage the gameplay. Might I suggest the Nucleon is actually contaminated by localised radioactivity or somesuch, affording it the powerboosting quality your after but giving scope for problems brought about by the contamination, thus balancing things out a little?

Had I a Predacon, I would say YES. I mean, with so few Predacons and the prospect that Maximals might get some of the *checks spelling* nucleon, this would be very fun. After all Beast Wars had an indestructible being grace its episodes twice accompanied by Unicron spawn and the like. We can afford to be creative with our version of Beast Wars.

Buut since I don't have a Predhead, I shall remain abstained.

Well, they won't be THAT much more powerful than regular bots. No more powerful than Transmetals compared to normal mechs, especially Transmetals after they were sidelined in favor of the newer gimmick.

You suggest an interesting idea, but I'm not sure about it. This upgrade would have to give them radiation immunity since they would no longer be able to transform. And if the nucleon was saturated with the radiation then it would be lethal, not beneficial to the Preds.

Just because you don't have one NOW, doesn't mean you should hold back. One of the reasons we're doing this is to make playing Predacons more appealing, because right now not many people seem that interested in them.

You know, how would this mechanic work? Would the increased power just be an informed ability or would the mutated characters gain an extra five or so points to up their stats? How it all works, gameplay wise, needs to be adressed.

You raise a valid point, Leo. I've been considering adjusting the stat systems, to lower the max for an average 'bot (we've been getting some powerful stat arrangements with the current system), and in doing so I could also give a couple extra points to a Metalmaster's max stat limit.

Would anyone be bothered if a few were allowed to develop slight telekinetic and/or a few elemental powers (like pyrokinesis or even geomorphic abilities)?

Personally, yes... reason being there is little precedent for that kind of 'natural' ability within the series - there would have to be some form of latent ability/skill set to develop it from in the first place. I can't see these "magical" powers sprouting spontaneously overnight.

For instance, G1 Soundwave was described as 'near telepathic' due to his mastery of sound-based technology...this could be developed in place from those with similar capabilities. G1 Windcharger's mastery of electromagnetism is akin to TK thus TK could develop from that kind of ability. G1 First Aid was described as an empath so there's room for that too but Pyrokinesis?? Who had the inbuilt ability to generate fire?? Remind me

I'm not intentionally being awkward nor am I against the system. You're the Admin here...so you get final say anyway. I just have a deep rooted aversion to super-powered Mary-Sues/Gary-Stus which is where this could potentially lead to.

This post has been edited by Lilblacknwhitebot on Nov 11 2009, 02:30 AM

I understand your concern. You're right, we'll nix the powers. Maybe have a telepath or telekinetic or two, but that's it.

Your fears are understandable, but not necessarily justified. These masters won't be any more powerful than Transmetals or the toys of the month as depicted in the BW show, and certainly ot able to win a war single-handedly. It would only be a minor power boost, coupled with a loss of the ability to transform. And that, to the Transformers culture, seems to be a serious handicap.