OOT Beta storyline, What could have been for OOT!

(Quoted from Zelda Chaos).

The original OoT storyline released by Nintendo.


Link is preparing for his coming-of-age ceremony, in which he will receive his guardian spirit. In the tradition of his people, children receive a fairy from the Fairy Tree when they reach adulthood. This fairy becomes a person's lifelong familiar. The fairy accompanies the youthful adventurer seeking his or her fortune in the maze-like forest or in the lands beyond.
Link's ceremony, however, is not destined to be a happy one. The Fairy Tree, source of guardian spirits, is captured by a strange creature from the depths of the forest. Link is able to locate his guardian spirit, Navie, and with her help, slay the creature. However, in the process, the Fairy Tree is grievously damaged. As its life force ebbs, the Fairy Tree speaks the words that will shape Link's destiny.
"Do not allow the thief, Gannondorf, to claim the Triforce ... " the Tree
mystically communicates. "Oh brave one, you must take this sacred stone to a wise man...."
Gannondorf was infamous throughout the land for his evil practices as the king of thieves. He lusted for the power of the Triforce and searched throughout Hyrule for its resting place, most recently plunging into the forest of Link's people. Link knew he was in grave danger should Gannondorf find him. He took the sacred stone from the Fairy Tree and set out for Hyrule Castle, the capital of the Hyrulian people.
Upon entering the castle, Link is welcomed by the young Princess Zelda, a woman of the Hyrulian royal family about the same age as he. She is well aware of the crisis facing the land of Hyrule. Zelda relates further details about the Triforce's hiding place, telling Link that he needs to find the three sacred stones that fit into a magical Ocarina, which serves as the key to hidden realm.
Link's race with the evil Gannondorf to find the sacred stones and the hiding place of the Triforce is on!


Zelda 64 tells the story of an earlier age of Hyrule, when Ganon was merely known as the king of thieves and not the powerful creature of evil he becomes in the other Legend of Zelda adventures. (end quote).

This storyline featured a Link who actually WAS Kokiri, and Link finds the Triforce! (Actually that part about the Triforce applies to ALL of the Beta storylines) It was pretty close to the final version however, or at least, closer than the earlier Beta storylines that we are aware of. What do you guys think?

This post has been edited by Tuf Pic on Sep 28 2007, 12:18 AM

Uh... no?

With regard to the first point, the story starts with Link going through the ceremony through which his people celebrate reaching adulthood, which is precisely what Kokiri never do.
So while the aspect of receiving a guardian fairy was already part of the story, it still did not feature the forest children of the Deku Tree as we know them, since they ALL were supposed to receive one only when reaching adulthood (whereas in the game, Link is the only one who grew up without one).

And secondarily it doesn't say Link gets the Triforce, just that he tries to obtain it before Ganondorf, which is exactly what Zelda asks you to do in the final version of the game.

Anyway, welcome back. Was Tre able to help you out?

Tre didn't manage to help Pic, since Pic never replied to my inquiry asking if he needed help.

As for the story... pictures, or it never happened.

With regards to the first point: At that point the ceromony WAS when the Kokiri got their fairies and NOT from birth! In at least one other Beta OOT storyline, Link is even stated to be a Kokiri, and NOT a Hylian! Of course in this version, instead of the Fairy/Deku Tree, Navi is the one to die. But, pretty similiar. And I picked up the Triforce bit from a no-longer existing site, that was absorbed into Zelda Dungeon, called Zelda Chronicles, that even had pictures! Of course, as I've stated already, it has been absorbed into another site, so the information is no longer available to us at the moment!

This post has been edited by Tuf Pic on Sep 28 2007, 11:48 PM

What you are failing to notice is that they would receive their fairy during a ceremony for reaching adulthood. Kokiri do NOT reach adulthood.

I have a video of that sequence with the Triforce. It was so early a beta they probably hadn't even conceptualized things like the other races yet (or a plot, even).

I've seen the pictures (from the beta roms) where you do indeed see the Triforce room... but Link was NOT in that room in any way, and you have to use a code set to actually go INTO that room. It was eventually removed from the plot.

Just as the nature of the Kokiri changed, as well as their "coming of age" (think of that statement: "Coming of age", it means to reach a set age)... and even Link's species and storyline. You said it yourself, Navi died in another version of the early story.

Truth be told, I like the OoT storyline that we ended up with, it fit the growing Zelda legacy.

Actually I don't really think that was ever true. Navi's only reason to exist is to be there for the player, so an early death would seem quite unlikely.

Unlike some plots of later games... but still, they seriously screwed up with the ending (deliberately, I'm sure, but it made a mess of continuity nonetheless)

But perhaps it was adulthood in a spiritual, mental, or mature sort of way, and NOT in the physical sense. Besides, I had seen a picture of Link during his not-so-physical adulthood, and he looked EXACTLY like Young Link, which would seem to support the "he grows up in other ways" idea, especially since the whole idea was so that he would gain a fairy when he became an "adult". And besides, he might have reached a certain age, and that age is when they become "adults"!

It wouldn't really make sense for Ninendo to only tell us the game begins with this ceremony of reaching adulthood if he were to "grow up in other non-specified ways". They'd either tell us that too (saying something like "on Link's XXth birthday when the ever-youthful people of the forest he belongs to reach adulthood...") or tell us neither until more of the game was finalized and they could give us something understandable.

Besides, Kokiri -do- -NOT- -age-. Not physically nor spiritually. With the exception of the awakened Sage of the Forest, all they do is fool around and play, none ever behaves as an adult and conversations with them in the adult part of OoT actually stress out this point.

But this is a different version of OOT, and different rules may apply! They may mostly play, but they may also grow wiser as well, and they could just be doing wise things when you are OUTSIDE of the forest! Plus, some of the Kokiri DO exhibit wisdom and/or knowledge, i.e. the Know-It-all-Brothers, and besides, who planted those signs, if not the Kokiri? It most probably was NOT the Great Deku Tree, seeing that, unless the Great Deku Tree had some magical power to put instructions on the signs, then the Kokiri would HAVE to have put those signs up! And besides, even if the Great Deku Tree communicated through telepathy, then, if you are right about them being so naive, they probably would have screwed up, which they most certainly did NOT, because the signs are very accurate, and I doubt the Great Deku Tree would give them faulty information on that particular occasion! And perhaps they develop mental skills that will help them survive in the outside world, and that is at least one reason why they play!

This post has been edited by Tuf Pic on Sep 29 2007, 06:46 PM

If that was the case, if Kokiri did grow older in "other ways" because the rules of the final game do not apply, then it would be completely irrelevant if Link was one of them or not seeing as (guess what?) such things do not apply to the finished game
...which is essentially what I said in my first post when I noted that such a ceremony implies that at that time in development the Kokiri as we know them did not exist.

I'm also astounded by your brilliant rebuttal about how the Know It All brothers are mature because they teach you how to play the game or that children couldn't possibly write and place signboards.
Oh wait, I forgot you're immune to sarcasm, my bad

Trying to guess that maybe Nintendo intended the beta-Kokiri in the beta-version of OoT to age in a spiritual or mental way when they are described as 'reaching adulthood' is extremely pointless, I must say. It has no bearing on the finished game, and most people reading that quote about adulthood would think of physical age rather than spiritual age.

Well, it matters to me, and I think it is EXTREMELY important! I believe this could be an alternate reality!

This post has been edited by Tuf Pic on Sep 30 2007, 05:55 PM

Pictures, or it didn't happen.

But even as such, it would be an alternate universe, still with no bearing on the finished product or the rest of the Zelda series.

Beta storylines/events/etc are fun to discuss and look at, but I don't quite see what your point was in brining it up here. Just to discuss beta OoT? That's cool - I love beta Zelda stuff - or to use it as a springboard for more 'Link is a Kokiri' discussion?