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 Official Super Famicom Hour Program Schedules
MadHatter
Posted: Sep 5 2009, 03:50 AM


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Two questions:
1) Does anyone know where I can find more official Program Schedules (either original Nintendo schedules or St.GIGA schedules)? I spent weeks searching for something more official than Kameb's site (which is still a great site don't get me wrong) last April-May, and I have a fair number of official schedules, but it's still such an incomplete window. Does anyone know where there might be any more?

2) Can anyone help me out with dating this unofficial Program Schedule? I'm having a lot of trouble with it. The schedule describes an August-October section, and there are certain years I can definitely exclude but I'm still stuck between the years that I can't exclude. I don't want to influence anyone so I'm not going to say my best guess just yet, but I'd really love some feedback if anyone has the time.

PS - Hope you all had a good summer. Good to see you've all been busy.
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MadHatter
Posted: Dec 4 2009, 07:47 PM


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I'll move the material from the Game Tora thread here since this is really where it belongs.

3)
To recap: This commercial advertising the Satellaview contains 4 partial schedules I'd like to date chronologically. The only important portion is the 10-second clip from 2:36 to 2:46.

For simplicity:
Partial schedule A - 2:36-2:37
Partial schedule B - 2:37-2:40
Partial schedule C - 2:40-2:42
Partial schedule D - 2:42-2:46

Here's my current best guess at the text of the schedule. (I've made a few new additions since, but anyway it's something like 90% done in the linked thread, so it should be enough to work with.)

Thanks for any help.

PS - As a quick and unrelated bonus, here is a link to Mikarin's sound.jp page devoted to Yuki Uchida's "Puzzle Kids" game (A Satellaview broadcast). I only include it because Mikarin is the person who came up with the partial schedule in my question #2 from earlier.

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MadHatter
Posted: Dec 6 2009, 09:26 PM


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By way of an update, I've gotten everything from the commercial clip (i.e. question #3) except the green entries at time slots: 24:00, 24:30, 25:00, and 25:30. These four titles appear at 2:40-2:42 in the commercial. I can see the beginning of the title clearly as "メディア・チンパンジー", but the second part that is all in Kanji is next to impossible for me. I can only make out the second character to be "の". I also note that at 2:40 of the clip, the second half of the Kanji is clearer and at 2:41, the first half clears up while the second half gets blurry. If anyone can figure out what that line is it would save me some pain.

I also had a thought about Mikarin's site (question #2). In examining Mikarin's sound.jp site, I find some lines that kind of bother me. Mikarin describes the site as a Pseudo-Satellaview (擬似サテラビュー) and there are links to downloadable sound clips (most are broken). In looking at the schedule from Mikarin's Tekitou Page, it seems that there are three broadcast times listed per day for SoundLink games. This is certainly different than I'm familiar with. The third broadcast is even listed as running from 03:00 to 04:00 (or in proper Satellaview format, 27:00-28:00). I've known of broadcasts between 25:00 and 26:00 but this is just off the charts. I'm starting to suspect that Mikarin was merely hosting copied versions of certain SoundLink broadcasts on certain days, and then that would mean the schedule that is listed is only the schedule for hosted content on the website... The inclusion of download locations doesn't help much since there is a separate sub-page on each download locations from the BIOS...

As for my original question #1, I still only have 9 official schedules (8 from '97, 1 from '99), and a few screenshots of broadcast schedules (which are the next best option). If anyone can find anything more (including screenshots/videoclips of schedules) I'd be interested to see them.
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KiddoCabbusses
Posted: Dec 7 2009, 12:20 AM


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Callis and I have been trying to gather up JP Magazines which may have schedules - Satellaview Tsushin and Famitsu mags are probably obvious picks here. Any other suggestions?
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Posted: Dec 7 2009, 01:06 AM


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As far as primary sources go, I can think of:
1)Nintendo and St.GIGA both seem to have produced gif versions for display on their webpages. I was able to find a few while going through the Internet Archive and one or two others while wandering other random corners of the web. Those are the 9 official schedules I was talking about. I'm certain there were more, but I've run out of likely places to look.
2)I've also seen a number of schedules simply typed out in loose text. These are of varying degrees of reliability. The Nintendo text-schedules are probably accurate, but fan-sites would be tertiary sources.
3)There are a few schedules that can be seen in videos of the original broadcasts (e.g. either of the "Last Day" videos and the Satellaview commercial linked above). These are almost definitely accurate.

As for secondary sources, I think you have it covered with the Satellaview Tsushin and Famitsu magazine schedules. They are pretty unlikely to be inaccurate.

Then there is a great degree of variability with tertiary sources.
1)Fan-sites like Kameb's seem to be very through and well-documented. I wish he gave more of an indication of where he's getting the information from. He seems to have a number of Satellaview Tsushin magazines and so some of the info is probably from there, but he seems to have much more schedule information than magazines.
2)On the other hand, schedules like the one at Mikarin's site really strike me as unlikely. For the reasons I just outline in the last post I feel like the schedule there may only be a rebroadcast schedule and so completely unrelated.

I've been working on a massive project to collate a full schedule (ideally anyway - I think a full schedule will perhaps never be possible), but I'm dogged by the fact that often I'll find a nice partial schedule like that in the commercial, but it won't have a date. Then I have to piece clues together to determine when it's from. I can often make a fair guess, but without independent 3rd party confirmation I constantly worry that it could just be me forcing the schedule into an area where my collated version is barren to fill it in better.
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Posted: Dec 7 2009, 11:14 PM


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QUOTE (KiddoCabbusses @ Dec 7 2009, 12:20 AM)
Callis and I have been trying to gather up JP Magazines which may have schedules - Satellaview Tsushin and Famitsu mags are probably obvious picks here.

When you and Callis get around to checking the JP mags you have, would you mind posting the broadcast schedules and dates here and/or PMing me the data for my files?

QUOTE (KiddoCabbusses @ Dec 7 2009, 12:20 AM)
Any other suggestions?

As far as other magazines you could be looking at, St.GIGA had a number of program guides it produced which may or may not have had anything game related. I'd imagine the St.GIGA Timetables publication would be the most likely place to look for early material and perhaps the St.GIGA Program Guide for later stuff. Both St.GIGA Magazine and Cosmo Dream both post-date the Satellaview games so they're relatively worthless.

Some of the more hardcore ambient music mags that covered St.GIGA in detail might have mentioned the Satellaview broadcasts during the earlier years since it would have been such a big change for St.GIGA.

Apart from that I'm not really sure which game magazines might have covered the schedules. Some possibilities might include Dengeki Oh (電撃王) and Megami Magazine (メガミマガジン). I don't think they're particularly likely to have Satellaview schedules, but they might have articles on the Satellaview just due to their publishing dates and the fact that they're Japanese. I was looking into this a few months ago actually, but I lost interest. I'll probably take it up again some time after New Years. I'll post here if I find any good possibilities.

As a bonus, here's the St.GIGA exclusive version of Close to you performed by Anna Caram. Apparently it's an obscure track that St.GIGA dubbed over the ocean sounds you can hear in the background. This clearly isn't from the Tide of Sounds broadcasts, so I'm thinking this is B-mode programming. Still interesting for the historical cache value.
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Posted: Dec 8 2009, 09:58 PM


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Which magazines do you and Callis have, by the way Kiddo? Were you able to actually get hold of any Satellaview Tsushins?
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KiddoCabbusses
Posted: Dec 8 2009, 10:46 PM


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Callis has obtained a few Famitsu Express mags IIRC.

Can't recall anything else at the moment. The Satellaview Tsushins have eluded us so far.
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MadHatter
Posted: Dec 9 2009, 03:37 PM


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Do you know if he's checked them for broadcast schedules yet?
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MadHatter
Posted: Dec 20 2009, 10:49 PM


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Well guys it's that time again. I'm off for X-mas break. (well technically I have one more exam still to do tomorrow morning, but as soon as that's done I'm right out the door)

So happy Holidays to you all, and as a final post in the way of a present I offer you a juicy Zelda tidbit I just discovered in the depths of the internet. I found an official St.GIGA schedule for the final broadcast month before Nintendo pulled the plug in in May 1999 - and thus the identity of the last SoundLink game ever broadcast on Satellaview is... *bum bum bum*... BS Zelda: Inishie no Sekiban.
It's fitting I think.

Here's Nintendo's final message to the fans:

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■サウンドリンクゲーム番組終了のお知らせ■

●トップページでお知らせ致しておりますが、

4年間にわたってお楽しみいただきましたサウンドリンクゲームは、5月放送の「ゼルダの伝説 古代の石盤」を持ちまして番組終了とさせていただきます。長い間応援して下さいましてありがとうございました。

サウンドリンクゲームは終了致しますが、サテラビューで受信する衛星データ放送は継続致します。今まで同様、ゲーム番組をお楽しみ下さい。
番組宛に皆様からいただきました数々のご意見、ご要望は、必ず、次代のセント・ギガ衛星データ放送に生かして参ります。


So that's it I'll leave you guys to do the translating.
Have a good break!

MH signing off.

PS - OK one more tidbit. That's the only schedule I've seen where they ran 2 Zeldas concurrently (ZnT plays throughout the same month), and finally for all you trivia buffs...
The last Satellaview broadcast under Nintendo's involvement was: Cheap de Gorgeous 8.

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Posted: Dec 21 2009, 02:57 AM


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translation attempt;

"- Notice of sound link game program's end

- This news comes from the home page [Probably Nintendo HP... wait! could it be in one of the BS Nintendo HP ROMs?]

We hope you enjoyed our four years of broadcasting, which will end after our May broadcast of "BS Zelda no Densetsu: Inishie no Sekiban". Thank you for your time spent with us.

The satellite data broadcasting received by Satellaview will continue though the sound link game will end. Please enjoy the game programs as you've always have.
Thanks to your requests and input, our programs will be remain broadcast by St.GIGA satellite dishes for the next generation. "

As for the previous post - I'll ask him again. I forget.
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