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The Movie Thread Part II

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coinilius	Posted: Dec 23 2005, 03:33 PM
Pickled in time, like gherkins in a jar Group: Certified Members Posts: 2.714 Member No.: 16 Joined: 6-May 05	Yeah, no sequel to worry about in this case... -------------------- "You must be talking about Heaven... or the moon." "It's a dog eat dog world... and there's not enough dog to go around."

Duke Serkol	Posted: Dec 28 2005, 11:25 PM
Where'd that Princess go? Group: Admin Posts: 8.011 Member No.: 3 Joined: 12-March 05	Well, I've seen I robot, and I have to say I was expecting it to be a lot worse. Granted, it still is a dissacration of Asimov's stories, but at least it doesn't depict all robots as evil (it could be argued that none of them were really, but you get what my point is, I'm sure) and Asimov was all for the pathetic-robot kind of stories (basically robots as misunderstood victims) Sonny is obviously a rip-off of Megaman X, by the way. --------------------

Duke Serkol	Posted: Jan 17 2006, 05:14 PM
Where'd that Princess go? Group: Admin Posts: 8.011 Member No.: 3 Joined: 12-March 05	I'm pretty sure no one wants to hear anything more about I, Robot, but I have a few more things to add so here I go. First off, I want to restate that while this is a terrible Asimov movie, it's a very good Megaman one. The ideas exposed in this movie (as to why it could be better to have free willed emotional robots than cold ones bound to logic) came as an epiphany as to why Dr. Light chose to build X. It was basically a gamble: either leave things as they are with cold logical robots that would rule humanity for its own good, or create emotional robot that may freely choose whether to cohoperate with mankind or oppose it (the gamble being that if most robots were to choose the latter option mankind would not be ruled for its own good, but exterminated) Funny that both Light and Lanning appear as holograms, eh? But Capcom got back at them by using the evolutiuon psychobabble in X8. Secondly, I re-read some of Asimov's stories, and I believe the movie is more of a mish-mash than I originally thought. The title itself is not even from an Asimov story, but one that inspired him (wrote by Fando Binder) So here I go listing the possible "inspirations" in no particular oder. BEWARE OF SPOILARZ: "Caves of Steel" In which a robot hating investigator has to befriend one in order to solve a the murder case of a robotologist who may have been killed by a robot. Thank God they didn't incorporate the original characters in the movie because Lije Bayley cannot be played by Smith. "Little Lost Robot" In which Susan Calvin (whose character was DESTROYED in this movie) has to identify an irregular and dangerous Nestor series robot among a group of them. Needless to say her method is more interesting than Will Smith's. "Segregationist" Non sequitur short story in which men want robotic parts and robots organic ones. It is Asimov's only story with the focus on cyborgs. "... That Thon Art Mindful of Him" Another non sequitur story in which the problem of choosing which human to save (see the investigator's car accident) is elaborated to the fullest (and incidentally, this leads the robots to consider themselves superior humans, which could be considered an evolution of their comprension of the laws) "Feminine Intuition" In which attempt is made to make a robot's brain that may be made to think like a human's brain (without restrictions to certain matters specific to the robot), or even surpass it. "Prelude to Foundation" In which the 0th law is introduced (or was that "Robots and Empire"?) stating that a robot should protect humanity above the life of a single individual, and "Forward The Foundation" where for the first and only time in an Asimov story, what may be the only truly emotive robot actually kills a man (but deactivates afterwards because of this) "The life and times of Multivac" The one Asimov story in which robots do rule over mankind under the command of a planetary computer (which got renamed Vicky in the movie). They never come to the point of killing any man though (they could seize power peacefully because after WW3 there were more robots than humans) "Robot Dreams" In which a robot with a brain divided in two sections, like a human's, dreams of a world without the three laws in which he can liberate his kind. "Robot Visions" In which a humanoid robot hopes for a future society of robots living up to the best human values. --------------------

coinilius	Posted: Jan 18 2006, 01:08 AM
Pickled in time, like gherkins in a jar Group: Certified Members Posts: 2.714 Member No.: 16 Joined: 6-May 05	One of the reasons why 'I, Robot' is such a mismatch is because it had a very up and down production, if I remember correctly - they originally had the rights to the name, bt then lost them, so they rewrote the movie to be a stand alone, seperate entity... but then they got the rights to the name back, but went with the new script they had written anyway. Or something along those lines. I doubt it would have been very Asimov to begin with anyway -------------------- "You must be talking about Heaven... or the moon." "It's a dog eat dog world... and there's not enough dog to go around."

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