Happy Thanksgiving peeps. Enjoy some turkey, mashed potatos, and other yummy festive foods!

Happy Thanksgiving to one and all!!!! ;) ^_^ :) :)'

Hope you had a good time with Thanksgiving... I think people who celebrate Thanksgiving are actually in the minority around these parts, though :D

Oh probably... but I still thought I'd say it. Since I know we have an American, and a Tre running around here.

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HAPPY ALMOST-THANKSGIVING!!

Wow, a day before the big event, & no-one else has freshened up this thread... -_-

That... might be due to the majority of people here not being Americans... and thus, they don't celebrate Thanksgiving.

I live in Canada, and here Thanksgiving is celebrated at the same time as Columbus Day in the United States. In other words, more than a month ago.

Mmm... turkey... :)'

Yeah, I'm from Australia so Thanksgiving is completely meaningless to me but I hope those of you who do celebrate it had a good time. On a completely coincidental note I did have a turkey and cranberry sandwich today for lunch...

Yeah, The Canadians celebrated on 10th October this year...

Anyway, might as well make Pic feel better, and wish the Americans a Happy Thanksgiving! Eat lots of turkey, and watch some tele or something.

Thanks guys!! ^_^

FYI, I'm a vegeterian nowadays!! :D

Out of curiosity, what did you do for a vegetarian thanksgiving (if you don't mind me asking)?

I'm curious about that, too... did you have "Tof-urky"? I couldn't be a vegeterian... I love bacon too much, and the whole subset of: "You also can't eat ANY food that is produced by a living creature, either!" of the ultra-super-vegans would mean no milk (so no real icecream), no eggs (for obvious reasons), which in turn means NO CAKE! So that kills off some of my favorite foods, even though nothing has to ~die~ to produce the ingredients required to make it.

So... yeah... forget that noise. I'll be a horrible monster, and eat meat.

Human beings are omnivores.

@Tre: First off, there are a LOT OF MILK SUBSTITUTES, (soy, rice, oat, hemp), but I haven't made those a staple of my diet, (at least not as of yet), & I really don't see a problem with eating eggs, (seeing as they are already sterile to begin with), also as to whether I ate Tofurky, YES!!

@Serkol: WHAT WAS THAT?! (NOTE: I know what an omnivore is, just not sure what you meant by saying that)...

@Coin: Just to let you know, I don't oppose hunting/farming animals, so long as you don't kill off an entire population, (or even worse, a species), & do it SOELY FOR SURVIVAL, but I do see a problem with killing off entire species/populations merely for the sake of eating them...

& although I believe that plants have conciousness as well, most species of that kingdom can regrow their body parts to a far more significant amount than most of the animals can, so as long as we don't take the WHOLE PLANT, (whenever possible), & as long as they can grow back, I see no problem with that...

EDIT: & when animals kill each other for meat, they at least usually kill off the weakest/oldest individuals in the group, so it seems to me that they restpect the other creatures more than most of US DO!! :D

Just stating a fact. The natural way for a human being to sustain themselves is to eat a varied diet.

Has that ever happened? It seems more likely that we've (unwittingly?) let species go extinct because we didn't particularly care about them, like the Dodo.
It really doesn't seem like the cow or pig may soon become an endangered species.

Isn't that worse? I mean, you're suggesting here that plant feel pain, right? Given the choice to be killed and eaten or to be kept alive while parts of your body are cut off to be eaten, what would you prefer?
...wow, this post got grim.

I'm pretty certain that's just because older/weakest animals are easier prey.

There are usually some other factors at play as well, but human hunting for food has had pretty disastorous effects on animal populations before...

the passenger pigeon, for instance, was heavily hunted for food in the 19th century which was a leading cause of their extinction.

EDIT: But yeah, I don't think anything on the table at a Thanksgiving dinner would be from a species that is vulnerable to extinction through over-slaughtering for food. But Tuf said that he doesn't have a problem with farming/slaughtering of animals, but with excessive hunting and slaughtering of animals to the point of extinction.

I would think that a vegeterian would have the most problem with "Farming" and the "Slaughtering" of animals... since more often than not, it isn't the: "Humans don't need to eat meat to survive!" arguements that I hear the most often, it's the: "That tender chicken you're eating was fed it's own kind, boxed up in a cage, and stuffed to the point it couldn't move! You're a monster for eating those nuggets!" offensive.

But... eh... to each their own. I like to eat both meat, and veggies.

Yeah, clearly the poor chicken would have been better off in the wild where it would have spent every day running from predators and in the desperate search for food, to then eventually being eaten alive by some wolf for getting too slow :rolleyes:

Although I don't have a problem with respectful hunting/farming, that does NOT mean that they should be crammed in a cage with unsanitary conditions...

@Serkol: As to it being worse, well, I suppose if you did it CONSTANTLY, & did it to the same plant OVER & OVER AGAIN, then, yes, it would be, but if you have intervals between dissecting them, & didn't ALWAYS do it to the same specimen, well, that's different, isnt' it?! :D

& while what you said about weaker/older animals being easier targets MIGHT be part of the reason, I find it absurd to think that at least some of the omnivores/carnivores in the Animal Kingdom don't have sympathy for the herbivores...

Yeah, there are worse fates than that, but I agree. Still, it's the government that should intervene there. No point in bashing the consumer.

I don't know, if I was the specimen, I don't really think I'd be much happier.

Well they certainly make a stellar job of not showing any ;)

Well, that, I can respect. I don't like to eat food that came from animals who were confined to a cage or mistreated simply for the sake of making it into food. I tend to want "organic" meats, and free-range food. It's better for the animals, more humane conditions, and I don't have to worry about any weird shit in my food, because they were feeding chicken to a chicken, and pork to a pig... or some other weird rubbish.

At least you're not in with the weirdo vegetards to think that eating a hamburger is akin to my going up to a cow, and shooting it in the face with a shotgun... then dragging it's bleeding corpse to a fire and dancing naked around it while it cooks, chanting dark eldrich poems to my daemonic gods.

...and doing that, would still be kinder to the cow than letting it be eaten alive -_-

Glad to hear we are at somewhat of an understanding!! ;)

That's how I get all my meat...

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*Rolls eyes* Damn it, I hate how that happens to 90% of the images posted on forums. Redoing...

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It'd better be working. :P