Thanks for that. I'll see what I can work on here.

Do we also have a note on what ones have been translated already? I know Berri's covered quite a bit already, particularly the TREs.

I'll start with the Weekly Old Man Speech Intros as a warm-up;

Rought-draft;
"Oh,
So you return here without fear, hero.
Let's continue the battle to retake the Triforce.
Ganon has hidden a total of 8 Triforce pieces in his labyrinths.
Two new dungeons have appeared today.
They must have Triforce pieces, too.
Well, hero,
reclaim the Triforce.
But, today's battle will be tougher than ever before.
I shall try to help you against your enemies from here.
Oh, yes.
A merchant has begun selling new product nearby.
It can burn wood.
I think it'd be best if you not miss it.
So, if we don't hurry, we won't get this done.
Like before, the world will disappear in due time.
Now, I entrust to you \your previous memories. [NOTE: Google has noted to mean that "Memories" and "storage" use the same Kanji. Storage seems more appropriate, but I'm using "memories" for consistency with the translation up to this point.]
I shall carry them from here on."

Ohh..! There's a difference between BSZ and LoZ: it's Ganon that has hidden the Triforce parts, not Zelda!

Guess in this version Ganon is not able to unite them and so is merely hiding them away from anyone who could (and would then use it against him)?

I think all of week 1 was retranslated by her.

Since this seems like a mildly interesting ret-con-ish take on why the Triforce is hidden, it would be a good idea to get a few translators to double-check this line. It seems particularly that this would be ret-conned since the Toy Music track explicitly refers to the original storyline. (Of course, said track also refers to Link, who is never mentioned in this game.)

If that is true, it would also mean that in this version all the dungeons are distinctly his, rather than tests set up for Link to accomplish. It would explain why things seem more constantly on the brink, narrative-wise; Ganon's already penetrated way more of Hyrule, and the only thing in his way is that the Triforce is broken. Being unable to reassemble it (for whatever reason), he sets up a Xanatos gambit similar to the one in Sekiban, where the player character himself assembles what he wants, and he simply aims to kill him after it's done.

Week 3's introduction from the Old Man;

Rough draft;

"Welcome back once again, hero.
Now, you must collect 2 more Triforce pieces.
Once more, they inside two of Ganon's labyrinths.
I want to have six pieces of the Triforce in total at the end of the battle today.
You were supposed to have obtained a raft back in the third maze. [NOTE: as with BS Fire Emblem, I assume this is stated in a way which leaves it vague whether you actually got it or not.]
With that, go east toward the sea.
It is calm there now, without any fierce whirlpools.
I see an entrance to a dungeon there.
So, let's get going.
I will help you out from here, as usual.
Hurry, hero.
Give it your best, for your time is limited.
Regain the 2 Triforce pieces before the land disappears.
Now, take your sword."

Notably, the dungeons appear to once again be referred to as though they belong to Ganon again.

I'd translate it like this:

So I don't think that it explains that Ganon has hidden them but instead that they are hidden in his dungeons. So there's a strong implication that he hid them there. No word about Zelda hiding them.

Anyway translations of tricky sentences can take me several days to do properly so this is just my first impression. The exact wording might still be capable of a bit of tweaking if you were a perfectionist.

Good work so far, Kiddo. If you need anything double-checked, please make a note of it and I'll take a look. I know how bothersome translation can be at times.

Yeah, I'd already speculated that in the past.

Uhh...

Of course that'd make sense if it was him that hid the Triforce.

Mh, we really ought to have it triple checked then.

But say, isn't "maou" demon king?

Do note that the translation looks a bit dry at the moment. :<

Yes. Sometimes Google likes to translate it as "Satan" instead, interestingly enough.
Since in this game it's always prefixed on Ganon, and it sounds weird to say "Demon King Ganon" or "Satan Ganon" on the English tongue, I just excise that overly-literal phrase.

Yeah it's just that he sounds like he's about to pull a Boromir on the hero there.

I don't really have a problem with demon king Ganon.
Or Evil King as he was known in OoT.

I've also seen "maō" translated as "archenemy" or "nemesis". The most literal translation might be "demon king" or simply "magical king".

It's quite likely that a better translation would be "archenemy" or "nemesis" in this case, though, since Ganon is the main villain of the series. He is magic and a king, but perhaps not a "demon" as the term is commonly understood. The term "demon" has negative connotations of godliness and the origin of the word is from "deity" so this may not be the word we're looking for.

But that's the thing, too, about translation. It's an art. Apart from the direct and ungrammatically cumbersome literal translation, the poetic (AKA usable) translation is highly individual. A translator's experiences and origins come into it at that point. Peculiarities of the translator's personal speech patterns and his degree of emphasis on the words over the mood or the original mood over the modern/series' mood all influence the final product. So I think it's best to just use third-party translators (such as I, if I can call myself a translator) to provide factual oversight and not to suggest changes in structure or flow. The sentence I addressed above should be considered as an excerpted line out of a hypothetical full translation made by a third party and not as a correction. Similarly, I'd say that Kiddo's work here shouldn't be regarded as a correction per se to GlitterBerri's/Hyoe's (or anyone else's) previous work.

So to make a long story short, I support Kiddo's decision to simply excise Ganon's epithet, "maō". It's an issue of of poetics and not fact unless the storyline makes it one.

But it's there. Just ignoring it completely seems inappropriate. If you don't like calling him a demon, I'd suggest sticking to the canon localization of OoT and call him Evil King.

Though it should be noted that in Spirit Tracks they called Malladus Demon King, so odds are in future games Ganon could receive the same title.

Or they could stop referring to Ganon by that title entirely, so as not to cause confusion with two "Demon King" characters.

Since this appears to be veering toward a debate about translation styles, I might as well link this thread in a forum I check out.
It brings up interesting points of debate on both sides of how to convey Japanese nuances.
Because I don't have much experience in translation - and because I'm socially awkward by most standards - I don't really have much a style developed yet.

Ah but that's different. Honorifics like -san are used basically for everyone. It makes sense to omit those because we don't do that over here.
However demon king is not just any honorific, it's an actual title reflecting a specific position: the leader of a mazoku or demon tribe.
So its use in relation to Ganon is very relevant as it identifies him as the king who rules over all the monsters we encounter in the game.

I am glad that you are going to take this :)'

Where did you learn kanji?

Further, I'd suggest to have patience and let Kiddo first translate the text roughly. When it is finished, the debate about the translation style can start :)

I'm very glad to see progress here, after so long time of waiting. Together with MZ's patch I think bszelda gets kind of its resurrection ^_^

So that if he decides to include Ganon's title he has to go all over it again to add it for every instance?

Here, I'll do a bit of the Week 4 intro, plus a bit more since it takes a while to mention the Armos.

One thing that is kinda bothersome is the lack of identifiers for who is speaking in this transcript. Hrm..

"Welcome back once again, hero.
One week has passed since this land was covered in the black mist of the Evil King. [for once, the phrase "Maou" used as a name rather than a prefix.]
Monsters once contained in the labyrinths rampage on the ground.
However, I have just gathered enough strength to calm them.
The dark clouds will clear soon.
Now, the battle to regain the Triforce begins again.
Two new labyrinth entrances have appeared since last time.
The remaining Triforce pieces must be in these two mazes.
Once you have gathered the 8 pieces, the Triforce will be complete.
Now, go.
I shall try to help fight your enemies from here tonight.
You do not have much time left remaining on this land.
Let's hurry.
After I restore the ground, I shall look into manipulating the minds of the merchants.
So, hero.
Take this sword."

"You must find two labyrinths this week.
From them you must retrieve two Triforce pieces.
But, the Old Man said nothing about where the dungeon entrances are.
The Old man will return the ground to it's original appearance, and has convinced the merchants to begin discounts."

"Hi again, hero.
I shall use my power on the ground now.
(A shout)"

"The old man's power has burst out.
The dark clouds are gone, and the monsters of the labyrinth have turned back into the original ground monsters.
Go, hero!"

Not sure who is speaking in this one, but it sounds like old man dialog;
"Now, my spell appears to have awoken Armos.
If you provoke this enemy, it will come to life.
Wait... what is that I see on the foot of Armos?
It is...
Oh, I haven't seen the Power Bracelet in a hundred years! [NOTE: re-check this line, I quesiton if the Old Man can be -that- old.]
This was used by an ancient hero.
You should also obtain it."

"You can find Armos stones to the north of Hyrule.
These are what have awaken.
See what happens when you touch them.
Some Armos are standing before the entrance to the northern rocky mountain.
(the transcript is a bit screwy from here.) something in parenthesis.)
Making the Armos walk away should have the bracelet appear.
The Power Bracelet will allow you to move heavy rocks.
For example, you can move large rocks blocking stairs.
The Level 7 Labyrinth lies ahead of that.
Under a stone there is also a secret passage leading to remote locations.
Do your best to unearth this."

It's not so much that I know kanji as much as I know Hiragana and Katakana to some extent, know Japanese grammar rules, and can google translate the Kanji terms for assistance. Which is a bit more than what I had for BS Fire Emblem where I only knew simple terms and specific Satellaview/Fire Emblem terms, but aye. One other thing that's also helpful, compared to when I was translating the BS Fire Emblem scripts, is having the video files for contextual clues immediately on hand.

I'm sorry but I'm a bit confused. Can you clarify what's the difference between this and the part GlitterBerri already translated?

I'm not entirely sure what parts Glitterberri translated, so I'm working with what I assume is what hasn't been covered yet (from what I specifically remember, the Week 1 intro, the Week 4 ending, the contents of the abridged Week 1 video with each "Listen" sequence focused on, and all the "Listen" sequences are translated, and everything else is less certain.). Even if Berri did translate these, mind you, having alternate translations is a good thing, as a different interpretation of a line can help create a better overall understanding of it.

I'd translate it like this:

That does sound better, thank you. :)

I think next I'll attempt to cover the build up to the TRE where Ganon reveals himself, as it seems a decent amount of plot-relevant dialog is in it.

Jesus, the entire place has been covered in non-stop darkness for seven days? How are the plants even alive still?

Not sure what to make of this... unless it means to say one week from the hero's point of view (which it doesn't seem to), it would appear time continues to pass in this world even after it "disappears" for the hero. So that'd be one point of evidence against the "it was all an illusion" theory.

Mh, this is kind of weird... he's managed to calm the monsters (in and of itself something worthy of a wtf) and this causes the clouds to clear? Or does "calm them" refer to the stormy clouds?

*lol* They couldn't just have a sale, no, it had to be a Jedi mind trick...

Good observation, I almost let that one slip past me. Glad MadHatter could clear it up.

Wait, ancient hero..?
Is BS LoZ... a sequel to LoZ-AoL?!? O_o

Up to the release of this game, the Bracelet only appeared in LoZ and LA, with LA being a dream supposedly known only to Link and th Wind Fish (and the bracelet clearly not being the one now under the Armos).

Screwy? What do you mean? Hard to translate?

As for what GlitterBerri translated, shall we just dig up her topic?

The statement in parenthesis in the transcript looks almost identical to the preceding line, and I'm not sure what to make of that. In the BS FE Transcript, it usually meant the writer was second-guessing what was said.

and yeah, a reminder of what Berri written would be good. As for what the note about the "Ancient Hero" may allude to, it's a pretty vague reference. For reference, in terms of game production the original LoZ and Link's Awakening were the only two games that had the Power Bracelet as an item at the time. It's possible it's alluding to the idea that the Bracelet was used in the war featuring the Sages of the backstory (OoT, after all, would feature the Goron's Bracelet which is pretty much the same thing in all but name.). It'd be weird if the Power Bracelet specifically was an item used by an "Ancient Hero" when you consider that -all- the items in this game are directly pulled from Zelda 1.

http://z9.invisionfree.com/bszelda/index.p...topic=1058&st=0

As said, all of week 1 is taken care of (though she never answered my questions...)

...maybe I should make some more changes to those intro screens before they are inserted into MottZilla's patch.

Two very good points... though OoT was still several years away from being released (unlike what can be said for AST and its lost children of the forest).

Alright. Now for this...

This appears to be the sequence of dialog starting from which Ganon starts making ominous roars.

"W, who's that?
That voice just now...
The Evil King?
Where is he?
Where can he be?
This is strange...
I swear I heard something...
Beware, hero.
A sign of the Evil King...
I feel incredibly powerful and evil forces.
Perhaps the power of the stars does not reach to him.
It's possible he may appear at any moment.
A sign of the Evil King...
That the time has come for him to show up at last...
[Ganon], Where are you?
Where will you appear?
You bastard...
[the rest of his lines are translated in the textbox, IIRC, but just for retranslation's sake..]
I see,
You think you can win if you quickly seal my power?
I won't let you have your way.
The power of the stars flows in my body now.
You will not be able to seal my own power so easily.
W-what're you doing?
Let go!
Let go!
Hero, the Silver Arrows!
The Silver Arrows!"

"Something serious has happened to the Old Man.
Ganon confined himself in the Old Man's cave, of all places.
Be sure you have all 8 Triforce pieces.
Without them, you will not be able to face Ganon.
The Old Man cried for the Silver Arrows last we heard from him.
The Silver Arrows are in the Level 8 dungeon.
If you have the Silver Arrows, as well as the 8 Triforce pieces, hurry to the old man's cave.
If you are in the Level 8 Dungeon already and have not found the Silver Arrows, try letting yourself be captured by a Wallmaster.
There must be a room where a different-colored wallmaster appears..."

And then the final batch is the ending dialog. We've already more or less got that covered, yes?

So far, star as been translated as singular. Initially it was actually translated as "guiding star" but that was probably "you've been guided by the star".
Then again with Japanese you never really know whether it's singular or plural.

Mh, are you sure it's not a somehow more... dignified insult?

Yes, we should aim for a complete retranslation of anything past week 1.

Eh... that's right Narrator-san, he confined himself in there, of all places, where he also has his chamber and Zelda's cell...

Probably, but as I said above, it'd be ideal to re-do after after week 1.

It's hard to tell what exactly they're going for with the stars, since it could refer to a a star as in a biblical allusion or to a be a quasi-fourth-wall-breaking pun on the Satellite. I went with a plural as a stylistic choice to make it sound like the "Stars" are a substituted term for some kind of set of deities.

The line the old man says which I translated as "You bastard" for the rough draft is a simple "Kisama..", which is noted for being a very rude way to address someone. Although Japan has no real concept of taboo words in that sense, the "You bastard" is meant to convey how the Old Man's making it known he's speaking to someone he despises.

As for the note about what the Narrator said, remember the context; he's explaining in narrative form the plot twist that happened just prior, which is the idea that Ganon was secretly hidden in the Old Man's very home and has seemingly done something terrible to him. You had no idea of knowing that Ganon was there, or that you'd fight him there and free Zelda there, until having already played through this game before. In fact, a newbie player may still confused about where to fight Ganon once the Triforce is complete.

"It's time for Hyrule to disappear.
Your adventure is over."

"How was that, hero?
Did you enjoy it?
Today, the password appears on the results screen after this performance.
You can write it down and send it on a postcard.
You might win a wonderful present for your trials.
Do not miss the deadline that is written on the screen.
So, then. Farewell!"

Yeah, I know... wish there was some way to tell for sure (seriously what kind of language poses such a problem as "How many do we speak of?")

If despising is what this is about, then how about something like "you despicable being."? Or "you despicable monster" (I know, the Japanese doesn't literally call him a monster, but 1 it could be figurative and 2 we all know he is a monster in LoZ).

Again, we'll decide on more ESRB/NOA-approving terms when I can look over this again. The main issue would probably be figuring out how to write something that sounds just as insulting (and rude) without resorting to foul language. Stuff sorta like, but less corny than, "You fiend!" or "You brute!" or the most literal "Why, you [dirty/rotten/lousy/stinky/no-good]...!" that doesn't really sound like a complete statement

Please pardon the rampant speculation here but... Nintendo seems to like connecting Ganon directly to the safest parts of the game. Here we see Ganon taking up residence in Old Man's Cave, but many other examples exist:
*ALttP - Ganon's Lair is directly connected to Link's Uncle's house via the "Top Secret Room". This is the only place a Dark-World-to-Light-World transition takes place without the use of the Magic Mirror.
*AoL - As the player progresses, the towns are filled with the Eyes of Ganon
*LA - Ganon (or at least his shadow) can be found inside the Windfish's Egg.
*OoT - The Great Deku Tree is cursed by Ganon and Kakariko is set ablaze.

I'd guess that Nintendo is trying to heighten the drama by showing the player that the problem of Ganon's evil is omnipresent. You can't just sit it out and ignore it and hope it will go away. Every part of Hyrule is effected - even the corners that you assume are the safest. With the more shocking events like the burning of Kakariko and the connection of Old Man's cave to Ganon in BSZ1, the intent seems to be to kick-start the player into action.

I quite like this idea and it seems very plausible to me. Many of the ads and other Satellaview-related material surrounding the Satellaview suggest the theme of "Mario among the Stars". I'd considered that the references to a guiding star in this were probably allusions to the broadcast nature of the game and the fact that they say things like "a week has passed" and "remember to tune in next week" really makes me think that they were going for a quasi-fourth-wall-breaking pun. It doesn't detract from the story at all either. The connection between the BS-X avatar and Hyrule is apparently made through space by star-magic (perhaps this is the Hyrulean way of understanding radio-waves and satellite technology). This indicates to me that the BS-X avatar lives on a different planet than Hyrule. This makes sense since the avatar is supposed to be a stand-in for the player. I'd guess that the city of BS-X is supposed to be set on Earth.

Wait, so the Narrator isn't the same as Old Man? The internet claims many times that the two are one and the same. Is this just a fan error?

There is nothing to suggest the Narrator and the Old Man are the same character in-story - the Narrator is even the one who refers to the Old Man as "Oji-san" which is why he's even called the "Old Man". The Narrator also has a very different set of mannerisms and nuances from the Old Man; for example, he always refers to dungeons by the more technical "Level #" rather than the Old Man's "Labyrinths of the Evil King Ganon". He also talks about items and gameplay hints in a more technical matter, rather than the Old Man's more in-world views. He also comments on things the Old Man does as though he's sometimes surprised by it. His voice is also not that of a really aged man, but rather, well, Yagyu Jubei from Samurai Shodown IV. The "Jubei" voice, basicaly, sounds authoritative, like a veteran Samurai.

The confusion probably comes from the fact that it's believed Kiyoshi Kobayashi did both voices, although I can't quite recall where that is from or whether it's confirmed.

Alright. This should hopefully be the rest of week 4's dialog. Starting from after the note about the shortcut caves.

"The minds of the merchants are being manipulated.
A bargain sale has begun.
Do you have enough rupees?
Use your time wisely to buy items you may need.
A shield to protect yourself, a ring, meat to proceed with the level 6 maze, and medicines for life to recover [referring to the Magic Shield, the Blue Rung, the Bait, and the blue and red medicines respectively.]
To buy medicine you need to find the cave of the old woman.
The cave where the old woman lives is located near the Peahats.
You'll need a letter and a bomb.
The letter is given to you by the old man near the eastern waters."

Holy crud, this one is a doozy; a summary of hints for all the previous dungeons, seemingly intended for the folks who are starting at this week -from the beginning-. Con, are you -sure- this is impossible?
"Let's sort through the secrets of the labyrinths
Level 1 Labyrinth.
The entrance to here can be found without difficulty.
It contains the bow.
If you can find the right block to push, be sure to obtain it.
Level 2 Labyrinth.
This place is in the huge rock besides the cliff in the northeast.
You can't find this entrance without breaking the rock with a bomb.
If you kill all the Goriya using boomerangs, you can obtain one yourself.
Also, there is a room in a place away from where you see the map of the labyrinth.
To get to where you need to, break the wall with a bomb.
Level 3 Labyrinth.
This place is south of the forest.
Obtain the raft here.
There is a secret in the room where you see the key in this labyrinth.
Think about where to go from that room in the south, where you see the key but can't obtain it.
There must be a bomb in a nearby room.
It is possible to take it wit the boomerang.
That bomb is also necessary for going to the old man's room in the labyrinth, and next to that.
Level 4 Labyrinth.
This place is by the lake north of the forest.
It's possible to get past the pier if you have a raft.
The whistle can be obtained here.
There is a block that can't be moved until all the enemies are defeated.
If you notice it, the whistle will surely be obtained.
The Triforce room is located near the entrance, but you need to to find it from the back room, so don't rush.
The Level 5 Labyrinth is at the sea to the east.
Locate and go past the pier with a raft.
Find the tomb surrounded by the statues of Armos.
Walk toward the cliff behind the tomb.
The cliff is but an illusion of the Evil King.
Give the man that is hungry in the labyrinth the meat.
Obtain the ladder here.
Level 6 Labyrinth.
The entrance is at the sandy beach in the southeast.
Use the whistle to reveal it.
Find the Magic Rod in this labyrinth.
There is a wall you can pass through without a bomb.
Walk toward that wall."

"My power seems to have recovered somehow.
For a while, I've been watching the circumstances of the labyrinths, and I'll tell you, those bubbles, they're regrettable.
They are the most annoying things to fight.
Let's seal off their power for a little while now.
Now, the red bubbles are all blue.
Now, go through the labyrinth without being pestered by bubbles."

"Have you found the Level 7 Labyrinth yet?
Awaken the Armos statues and take the Power Bracelt left under the foot of one of them.
Then push the rocks blocking the stairs, and the entrance is to the east of this rocky path.
Does the white sword shine in your hand?
Meet the old man at the graveyard if you do not have it.
To reach the grave exit the forest from the west and go north from the desert.
Then push the gravestone in the middle.
If you have enough life, you should get the powerful white sword.
The Ghini in the graveyard have a secret.
You can't defeat the Ghini who appear when you touch tombstones.
They are mere illusions.
The Ghini who are there when you enter from the start are real.
All the illlusions are sure to disappear if the real one is defeated.
It's easy to tell the real one in a crowd; the real one does not fly diagonally."

"You seem to have an uphill battle.
I shall try to help with the art of lightning.
(a shout)"

"Unfortunately, the original spirits of the merchants have returned.
Products are back at their original prices."

"How is the fight going?
I shall try using the art of lightning again.
(a shout)"

"In the Level 7 labyrinth you may get your hands on the red candle.
It is different from the blue candle in that it can be used multiple times at once.
There are stairs you may not descend from because of a block preventing passage.
Try to think of a way to enter from the north side of that room."

"Do you know the power of the ring?
The old man found a red ring hidden under the statues located in the forest.
You should get it by any means.
When you obtain the red ring, your protection will be even greater than when you have the blue ring.
Hurry to the statues in the forest."

"Do you know of the Magic Sword?
It is a sword that is stronger than the White Sword.
The Old Man has found it at the foot of the rocky mountain.
You should get it by any means.
When you obtain the Magic Sword, your strength will be even more powerful than with the White Sword.
Hurry to the foot of the rocky mountain."

"Hero, the Evil King aims for the Magic Sword and Red Ring.
You will not be able to obtian them if the Evil King finds them.
You must get to them first.
Hurry up!"

"You need the Power Bracelet to get the Red Ring near the Lost Woods.
You need the Ladder to get the Magic Sword by the cave near the river fountain.
You have 10 minutes left to get these."

"Hero, have you found the Level 8 Labyrinth?
I believe it is already in sight.
Face the north to the rocky mountain.
Press the rocks to go up the stairs to there.
Up the stairs, to the east is the Level 7 Labyrinth.
Moreover, toward the west on the other side are two large rocks, called Spectacle Rock.
If you use your bombs here it will surely reveal the Level 8 Labyrinth.
It has the Bible and the Silver Arrows.
The Bible enables your Magic Rod to work as a Fire Rod.
The spell cast from the rod tears up enemies, then becomes a flame, and blazes up.
You can light darkened rooms with the Fire Rod.
The one thing I know about the Silver Arrows are that they are more powerful than ordinary arrows..."

"The red bubbles are back to their original selves.
Be careful.
If you touch a red bubble, you will not be able to use your sword permanently, unless you touch a blue bubble."

"The Evil King has been seen by the locations of the Red Ring and Magic Sword a moment ago.
Both are now taken."

"Let's now use the Art of Whispiering again.
Your hidden allies understand it.
It is an art that the Old Man used once before.
There are various things hidden under trees and in walls.
You should hear a strange noise when you come to some locations.
Something you have not found yet is concealed in them.
Use your candle and bombs to reveal them."

"Rejoice, Hero!
The power of the stars that guide you now flow in my body.
Oh, this power is terrific!
Up to this point, I have used all my abilities for you, but one at time.
Using this power, you can beat the game in a single blow. [Double check this line, I hope he didn't break the fourth wall -that- bad.]
Now is our chance.
I can use all of my abilities at once with this.
You can shoot beams even without full power.
Moreover, Bombs and Arrows are infinite.
And, you can use the Special Boomerang.
Let's try to challenge the remaining labyrinths with this opportunity."

David translated the location for Level 2 as Cyclopean Rock. He was kind of evasive when I asked him whether this was a connection to the Spectacle Rock and Three Eye Rock from the two NES games (cyclopean meaning both big and with one eye). I think his answer was something along the lines of "It's possible to tranlsate it as this, but there are alternatives".
It might be worth it to look into this.

This probably means to say "you can see on the map that there are rooms separated from the others" (there are, in the level 2s of both "Maps")

Also applies to both level3s. Clever. Except you don't need the boomerang for the bomb in map 2, but it doesn't say it's the only way (just that it's possible to take it like that) so it's okay.
In both dungeons though, you get into the old man's room without using bombs, you need them to go beyond that and to the end of the level.

Does it really call that one screen desert? Weird...

...oh don't act like you weren't thinking of that anyway.

Are you sure it's "the old man" and not "an old man"?
Or is it perhaps "The old man located under the statues in the forest found a red ring"?

Same as above. Is it maybe "an old man", or "The Old Man at the foot of the rocky mountain has found it"?

Uh, that's weird... the raft would do perfectly fine too.

Wonderful work! :D

Now only two weeks remain.

On the note of "an old man" vs. "the old man", I do not think the dialog makes that clear.

On the note of translating the areas with names, it was very difficult to get any of them to come through with my translation attempt - "Spectacle Rock" kept coming out as "glasses rock" on Google Translate and I had to individually single-out the glasses-part and look for alternatives to figure out that it was trying to say "Spectacle Rock". I do not know if any others besides that and Lost Woods were called.

I've asked some folks in an anime community to check the translation and someone there suggested some alternative lines. Some sound like they're a bit better for flavor than my dryer wordings;

And, yes, any "Gameplay hint" translations should be carefully double-checked for accuracy, for sure. Even if the translation is more or less correct, if the hint turns out to be wrong, even if only on Map 2...

Ah so it was rooms isolated on the map and the old man that lives there, just as I suspected, good ^_^

On the note of gameplay advice,

That seems incorrect. The statue is not solitary there's another by its side.

And... maybe "you need the ladder to reach it" could be changed to "the ladder can be used to reach it"?

Don't forget to have the line about Ganon hiding the Triforce triple checked :)
魔王ガノンの迷宮に隠されたトライフォースは全部で八枚ある。
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Ganon has hidden a total of 8 Triforce pieces in his labyrinths.
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The labyrinths of the devil king, Ganon, have hidden a total of eight different pieces of Triforce.

If you're wondering for certain if the labyrinths belong to Ganon;

Since it's pretty much explicit that the dungeons belong to Ganon, him being the one to hide them is a plausible implication as well.

bluesun has also been looking at the lines from my earlier translating. Some interesting notes;

No, that was always clear already in week 1. What I'm wondering is if the Triforce is explicitly (not implicitly) said to have been hidden by him.

Up until that doubt came up with the first post of this thread, I entertained the theory that Ganon conquered the labyrinths but his minions were unable to overcome the bosses guarding the Triforce.

Is it possible to determine if it is land or world? Or are they synonyms?

This part is new. I assume it follows the intro speech for week 2, right?

And there I have my answer.

I like this guy ^^

Do you think he could take a look at the unanswered questions in the week 1 thread?
http://z9.invisionfree.com/bszelda/index.p...opic=1058&st=13

Some were...

rather puzzling.

This is the Week 3 dialog I haven't translated yet.

"Let's begin this week with a recap of the controls.
To use the sword, press the A or Y button.
Take a look at what happens when pressing the X button.
This display is called the subscreen.
Here you can choose what the B button uses.
For example, the B Button can be set to use the boomerang, bombs, candles, or the whistle.
Try other items when they're added to your hands.
Well, this week began with the Old Man talking about the whirlpools.
You may already have the raft and have seen the whirlpool.
If not, go to the sea in the east.
Moreover, you can't go to the Level 5 Labyrinth unless you have the raft.
The only way to obtain this is to challenge the Level 3 Labyrinth.
That labyrinth is already somewhere on the ground.
If you look at the map, you'll surely understand where it is.
However, not all labyrinth entrances are in sight."

"Have you already mastered the tools used with the B button?
The boomerang stops the movement of an enemy it hits.
It can also grab things that are out of your reach.
Bombs can be used to break walls as well as defeat enemies.
It is said that there are breakable walls and cliffs on the ground.
In particular, the Level 2 Labyrinth can only be open with a bomb.
You can also break the statues in labyrinths to find missing rooms.
The candle can illuminate darkened rooms.
It can also be used to burn any wood which blocks your path."

"Do you still not understand the locations of the labyrinths?
The Level 3 Labyrinth is in the southernmost area of the forest.
The Level 4 Labyrinth is up by the shore of the lake."

"Is your fight difficult, hero?
A merchant is selling medicine across the sea, besides the Level 5 Labyrinth.
It is a valuable medicine that recovers life.
It'd be good to obtain it.
You need the raft to cross the sea to the east, past where the whirlpool was, to the Level 5 Labyrinth.
You can obtain the raft in the Level 3 Labyrinth."

"The entrance to the labyrinth which you use the raft to reach is not visible.
There is just a suspicious grave.
The Evil King's power works greatly here.
You're looking at an illusion.
What appears to be a cliff is actually nothing.
Let's experiment; try walking into the cliff."

"In this world, it is necessary to use rupees as money to purchase from merchants.
Get your hands on some by defeating enemies.
There are some things merchants are selling that you should buy.
For example, their shields are stronger than the one you have.
They can bounce the bullets Zora fire from across the water.
Arrows need the bow to be used.
The bow should be found in the Level 1 Labyrinth.
The candle can burn wood, but is also necessary to illuminate darkened rooms.
Get the ring to reduce damage from enemy attacks.
All that is known about the meat is that some monsters like it.
However, it is a mystery why merchants are selling it."

"How are you fighting, hero?
I shall try using the art of lightning again.
(a shout)"

"Does the white sword shine in your hand?
Meet the old man at the graveyard if you do not have it.
To reach the grave exit the forest from the west and go north from the desert.
Then push the gravestone in the middle.
If you have enough life, you should get the powerful white sword.
The Ghini in the graveyard have a secret.
You can't defeat the Ghini who appear when you touch tombstones.
They are mere illusions.
The Ghini who are there when you enter from the start are real.
All the illlusions are sure to disappear if the real one is defeated.
It's easy to tell the real one in a crowd; the real one does not fly diagonally."
[Yes, some dialog is repeated whole.]

"The medicine sold near Level 5 is blue.
Actually, a red medicine which has the effect of being 2 blue medicines also exists.
An old woman who lives somewhere on the ground handles them, but this old woman's cave is hidden in the cliffs.
The old woman has been forced into hiding into a secret cave, surrounded by Peahats.
A letter is required to buy medicine from the old woman.
The letter is given by the old man living by the east sea."

""Let's sort through the secrets of the labyrinths
Level 1 Labyrinth.
The entrance to here can be found without difficulty.
It contains the bow.
If you can find the right block to push, be sure to obtain it.
Level 2 Labyrinth.
This place is in the huge rock besides the cliff in the northeast.
You can't find this entrance without breaking the rock with a bomb.
If you kill all the Goriya using boomerangs, you can obtain one yourself.
Also, there is a room in a place away from where you see the map of the labyrinth.
To get to where you need to, break the wall with a bomb.
Level 3 Labyrinth.
This place is south of the forest.
Obtain the raft here.
There is a secret in the room where you see the key in this labyrinth.
Think about where to go from that room in the south, where you see the key but can't obtain it.
There must be a bomb in a nearby room.
It is possible to take it wit the boomerang.
That bomb is also necessary for going to the old man's room in the labyrinth, and next to that.
Level 4 Labyrinth.
This place is by the lake north of the forest.
It's possible to get past the pier if you have a raft.
The whistle can be obtained here.
There is a block that can't be moved until all the enemies are defeated.
If you notice it, the whistle will surely be obtained.
The Triforce room is located near the entrance, but you need to to find it from the back room, so don't rush."

"Hero, I have seen that frightening vision again.
The monster, the walls, smoke that breaks rocks, and the form of a walking man.
Moreover, I now strongly feel the power of the stars that guide you.
That power will reach you through my body.
Look at the number of bombs on the screen.
It seems that time has come for infinite bombs.
Try using them on all the suspicious walls and cliffs."

"Do you already have a ladder?
The ladder is located in the Level 5 Labyrinth.
It can cross rivers and moats, though only small ones.
Do you remember the river where the Peahats live?
You can proceed past that with the ladder.
I think I also remember that there is a heart container somewhere in the east sea.
Go to where that is if you have the ladder.
That should turn the tide of the fight in your favor."

"Have you found the entrance to the Level 5 Labyrinth yet?
Cross the sea in the east from the pier.
Find the suspicious grave.
Go directly north from the grave.
A bomb is not necessary for this."

"You must have seen in the labyrinths the round skulls, the bubbles.
These are the most annoying enemies.
Although they do not damage with their touch, they render you unable to use your sword temporarily.
In particular, if you touch a red bubble, your sword is disabled permanently unless you touch a blue bubble.
Beware these enemies the most.
There seems to be an enemy who eats your shields, as well.
Do not be careless around them."

"It seems your uphill battle continues.
I will try to help with the art of lightning.
(a shout)"

"Let's use the art of lightning one last time.
(a shout)"

"The power of the stars seems to have faded.
It no longer flows in me.
The power of the infinite bombs is lost.
Hereafter, be wary of the amount of bombs you have."

"Do you hear me, hero?
I am uneasy about how the falling rocks that have scared those travelling to the northern rocky mountain have stopped.
It probably means that something unknown awaits.
Hurry, your time is almost half past."

"It is said by people who have escaped the falling rocks that there is a mysteriously lucky old man in the norther rocky mountain.
Also, further west there are eerie Armos statues lined up in place.
It has been handed down in old tales that bad things happened when those statues moved.
Your time left is down to half.
The entrance to the Level 6 Labyrinth has not been found yet.
You must feel impatient..."

"Hero, I've finally acquired a new ability.
I was able to touch the fountain of life flowing through the earth.
Oh, how wonderful!
Let me send the power of the earth to you.
However, it will not continue for long.
In the meantime, it is a good idea to challenge labyrinths during this time when your defenses are high."

"Your Heart Maximum has become 16.
From the appearance of the old man, this ability will persist for only 10 minutes.
It will be difficult for you to die even if you act irrationally.
However, be wary of the amount of life you have.
You do not want to be defeated suddenly."

"Regrettably, the merchant who was selling medicine in front of the level 5 labyrinth appears to have sensed danger and turned back."

"Oh, for as long as I have lived, such an event is unprecedented.
I see the entrance of the labyrinth appear in the swaying waters.
A comforting tone is heard with the sound of the waves."

"At last, a clue to where the Level 6 Labyrinth is.
It seems to appear from the sea, with a sweet sound.
Then, do you have the whistle obtained in the Level 4 Labyrinth?
Moreover, exactly what sea is being indicated here?
It does not appear to be the sea to the east.
There is not a sea to the west.
The remaining coast is only in the southeast.
Hero, try using the techniques from the forbidden manual within the chapter of the edge. [RE-CHECK THIS LINE. I can't make any sense of that.]
You should be careful."

"It seems the ability the Old Man got the from earth has disappeared.
From here you must fight using your own power alone."

"Do not overexert yourself, Hero.
With my remaining power, I may be able to render something.
Accept this."

"The Special Boomerang appeared in your hand.
This powerful weapon can cleave enemies in half with it's hits.
Use it with the B button."

"It is possible that you have returned from the Level 6 Labyrinth early.
You can obtain the Magic Rod from the Level 6 Labyrinth.
This is a better weapon than candles.
The spell from the wand can cut through enemies."

"Let's try using the art of lightning one last time.
(a shout)"

"W-what is this?
What is happening?
Is the world ending?
Why are the monsters who live in Labyrinths creeping out onto the ground?
Hero, you must hurry.
I do not know if this is a sign that Hyrule has fallen into the hands of the Evil King.
Dark clouds rapidly shroud us.
Does the Evil King's anger finally strike the ground?
Still, it might be a good idea to take this chance to capture the labyrinths.
The number of monsters in the labyrinths has been halved.
The defenses of the labyrinths are surely undermanned.
However, to see the ground in this state...
What is the Evil King's aim?
A frightening time passes.
The falling rocks of the northern rocky mountain start again.
Are you on the ground now?
Be sure you have all of the following goods today;
6 Triforce Pieces, the Blue Candle, the Bow, the Special Boomerang, the raft, the whistle, the ladder, the magical rod, and the white sword.
If you're skilled, you may also have the ring, the Magic Shield, the arrow, the bow, the medicine, and others purchased or obtained."

"Is the 6th Triforce piece in your hands yet?
You only have a few minutes left.
The boomerang's power is back to what it originally was.
The dark clouds increase and hang lower.
You must hurry.

"My vision is blurring...
What is this that greets my eyes?
That appearance, by any chance,
is it the Evil King?
Where has he appeared?
Hero, the time is coming when the Evil King approaches the ground.
I can see it.
That man...
He is coming.
The monsters of the labyrinth loitering on the ground are but a symptom of this.
Hero, do not fail to return to the fight.
Otherwise, the fight today will become meaningless.
So, we'll meet again."

O_o
Oh wow! Once you are done you should summarize and post the complete translated file as word document. Best were if you could also give the ingame video times for the dialogues; maybe Duke can make some html out of it just as he did with Beno's translation (and can also correct Beno's translation of the first week if necessary)

Thanks again for your efforts :) Say do you already have an entry in the hall of fame?

I probably will have to put these in word docs when I get to revising them. ^^;

As for the hall of fame thing, I think I was in there prior for bugtesting Mottzilla's RH patches and the Sekiban patches. But hey, more than one entry (and perhaps a jump up in the credits) may be pretty cool. :P lol.

Sure, when this is done you definitively deserve it ^_^