Is Adama A Cylon?

[MadtownHomey]

I'd like to speculate about Leoben's assertion that Adama is a Cylon from 'Flesh and Bone' right before we first became aware of Roslin's affection for air locks. The next episode, with the introduction of Ellen Tigh, we see that Roslin becomes paranoid that William Adama is the Cylon. After that episode this story arc has more or less been forgotten. I (for one) think that this story arc may well come into play, potentially soon...Especially with what appears to be the re-introduction of the very same Cylon model on New Caprica who is looking for Starbuck...

I have read specualtion on some boards that Lee could be a Cylon, but I think that the writers would be wise not to go there. To expose one of the main 'alpha' characters as a Cylon would be quite a leap, and very distressing to the fans (not that this has ever stopped the writers, much to their credit)...

...one theory I have not seen posted is what if Leoben was trying to tell Roslin that ZACH Adama is a Cylon? Wouldn't that be a mind bender? I think that this would open an incredibly rich plot line, as this revelation would have a profound impact on the three most important BSG characters (Apollo, William Adama, and Starbuck). I think it would be amazing and utterly unpredictable as to how this development would play out...William and Lee realizing that what they thought was family was in fact the enemy...Starbuck with the realization that the dead man of her nightmares is alive but had always been just a machine. It would be especially poignant to see Starbuck and Helo interactions, as Starbuck would have to eat her previous harsh words to Helo for him falling for Caprica-Sharon.

There are some established 'BSG physics' that would have to be worked around to do this, but I don't think it would be impossible. I'm no expert, but I think I read on one of these boards that Ron Moore has indicated that the 12 Cylon models were not created from original humans. If this is true I don't believe this has ever been established in the story itself, so it could be a smoke-screen. I think it is established that Zach must have been human at some point (since the Adamas would have remembered Zach from his childhood, unless flesh Cylon models age which I'm not touching here), but perhaps Zach was captured by Cylons at some point and chosen to be one of the 12 model templates? Six in the mini-series tells Baltar off-handedly that they should copy his brain pattern/scan due to his unique ability to think of no one other than himself...Could this be a clue of Cylon technology that allowed for the building of flesh models? The other models (like Sharon and Doral) have elaborate back/cover stories. How would the Cylons have known such details about the 12 Colonies between the wars without extracting the information from human sources? Maybe Sharon really did have a mother and that memory was implanted in her brain (while removing the memories of her capture)? It is established that Zach was not a good Viper pilot, much as Sharon was established as being a pretty poor Raptor pilot (or at least had trouble landing one)...It is also known from 'Downloaded' that it takes a while for a Cylon flesh models to feel comfortable in their new body, which would lead me to believe that they would not be real comfortable in a cockpit.

Apologies if this speculation has been covered previously, but I really think that this would be the kind of plot twist the writers of BSG excel at (and what keeps me coming back for more!).

[weissman]

Fun theory, way to complicated though. So far this series has kept things pretty simple.

Bob W
Sharon Rocks

[Gonzai]

Quite a theory/concept, and it certainly would be a mind-frak for our principal characters. But I still think Leoben was lying about that, trying to mess with Roslin's mind.

[Gizmo]

I agree Gonzai, Leoben mixes truth with lie.

[Noneofyourbusiness]

What could Zak infiltrate? Exactly nothing.
I think that if any Adama is a Cylon it must be Lee, and I and others have some fanfiction on the subject on this very site if anyone's interested.

[MHall]

Suppose Zak was a humanocylon. Therefore, like all humanocylons, he grew up from a baby. Then he was killed in a viper accident. He was, of course, "resurrected" (actually, one of his premade backup copies was released from storage), but then there is a problem. The sleeper agent Zak was killed, and his remains were extracted from the viper, positively identified, and buried. You can't just have the "resurrected" Zak stroll back into the barracks. Not only does everybody else know he is dead, but so does this "resurrected" Zak. He is no longer a sleeper agent. He's like Boomer waking up in the gooey resurrection pod. He knows he is not himself, so to speak. He cannot return to Colonial life. He might even need to be "boxed," if he can't accept the fact that he is a Cylon.

I believe one of the Adamas is a humanocylon: 60% William, 30% Lee, 9% Zak, 1% Other.

[redrain85]

In the words of EJO: "If Adama is a Cylon, then humanity is screwed."

Translation: William Adama is not a Cylon.

All IMHO, of course.

[weissman]

I have to agree Adama is not a cylon, he might have a selective conscience and occasianlly has his head up Roslyns ass, but he is not a Cylon

Bob W
Sharon Rocks

[HAVOC451]

I think Leoben lied. Niether Adama is a Cylon.

[Gun_Fodder]

Een zees worhled, evrehbody ees a cylon.

[Apollo's Associate]

I can see where you are coming from, but there are alot of holes to pick. They have to make interesting and unexpected twists, but that one is a bit too far in terms of complexity. Something like Roslin or another involved charater but someone that the fans wouldnt feel immensely annoyed about. If Apollo or W. Adama were cylons then it would ruin everything. Plus it would mean that both Adamas would have to be cylons.