Where Will The Adamas Take The Fleet?, A return to Ragnar Anchorage maybe!?

I think they will go back to the Colonies to rearm at the very least and look for survivors/crew. It's the only place they know of to go for help. To look for Earth may take years and they don't have time for an uncertianty like that. The Colonies are a known quantity. There are twelve worlds and countless places among them the Cylons never got to getting around to destroying. The Cylons also where looking to live there as well so everything wasn't destoryed once they thought all the humans where gone.

If they can get their act together a couple of daring hit and run attacks on the Cylon Homeworld would help draw forces away from New Caprica.

From the looks of the street scenes on Caprica in Downloaded and many of the episodes when Helo and Sharon were running around on the planet, we know that not everything was destroyed and the planet is still habitable. There may be residual radiation, but considering the number of survivors Starbuck brought back who had been living on the planet for nearly a year after the attack, it's not a wasteland.

Adama needs to at least take a look for himself.

Good points and I wouldn't be surprised if that is exactly what they do. There may not be people but there might be ships and arms they could utilize.We also have not seen the condition of the other colonies so who knows there could still be a a few thousand scattered on the other worlds.

Problem with that, does Lee become his father's EXO? What about Tigh? Or did he buy it on New Caprica. I like the idea of the two battlestars.. Plus with ships dystroyed they need the space for the survivors to live. That will make for new complications, families living on the battlestars.

I think the beginning of Season 3 will focus on the fleet regrouping at Ragnar, and replenishing supplies, redistributing personel. And seeking survivors from the colonies as CG and others have theorised.

Did they empty the Anchorage in the pilot. My impression was they took what was immediately needed and got on out due to the pressures of being located by a Cylon Taskforce. Should be loads of stuff like munitions. BUt probably not vipers or raptors otherwise they would have grabbed them on their first "shopping trip".

Most of the Colony worlds look intact there must be some kit worth taking from them. Assuming that there are no Cylons there of course. (Although the Cylons must at least put a high probability that the Colonials would regroup there and put a basestar in orbit just in case. How sincere are they in leaving the colony worlds alone?? Not at all IMO.) THey probably need them for their plan whatever that may be.

IIRC, Adama gave the crew a very tight time limit at Ragnar, just an hour or two I think. Priority on some nukes and munitions, but he was very disclined to spend quality time there.

The Colonies are the best bet IMO. The nukes the Cylons used on the planets surface seem to be the neutron kind with radation that dies off quickly or simply low yield nukes. Caprica seems to have taken it well and Starbuck, Helo, Sharon, and co have seen enough of that planet to suggest that it be worth while to at least go see. The other 11 planets may be in a similer condition. Some may be in nuclear winter but still have stuff to salvage. There where tons of people on the farms and other surviviors on Caprica so it wouldn't be a streatch to think that there may be more on the other worlds and even on other areas on Caprica. Ammo and supplies may be moreeasy to get. Ragnar Anchorage is huge and Adama did give a limited time to load up ammo and supplies. I'm sure it's still loaded with goodies if the Cylons didn't waste it in spite because the RTF got away. There are other anchorages in the colonies and it's worth at least going back to see if there is any anchorages and, ships and, survivors and whatever else there may be. If a basestare or two remain there then it should be short work for Galactica and Pegasus to take out.

The Admiral will have to find a safe place to park much of the fleet. It seems rather risky to back-track into Cylon occupied space with the Battlestars so badly undermanned.
It would be a good story, I think, for the colonials to find the civilians Cain abandoned. I just wouldn't want to be the first Colonial uniform through the door.
Going back to the colonies would seem to be the only chance of finding more people in the numbers needed. The Cylon attack was pretty thorough, but there may be an outpost or two left. If they do go back to the colonies, they better find some Tylium. It's a long way and it should take a good part of their reserve to make the trip and then return.

Is it October yet?

Except that with no FTL drives or weapons, no supplies and the best among them shanghaied into service on the Pegasus, the abandoned civilians more than likely were dead by the time Galactica met up with the Pegasus, much less over a year later.

Looking for the Pegasus survivors is a waste of time as already mentioned they are most likely dead they have already been striped of anything usefully. Looking for Earth is a long shot at best. They need to go to somewhere they know they have a real chance of finding help/supplies IMO that is the Colonies. Even if the stuff on the surface is radiated too badly the stuff in orbit and such would not be. Just picking through the wrecked/vented Battlestars would yield Viper,Raptors ammo and MRE type meals/noodles. There should be survivors on the other Colonies as well. If Anders team could survive 9 months than another year without Cylon harassment should be cake.

Agreed with all of that, and training.. Both battlestars were caught with their collective pants down when the Cylons reappeared. So they have to get their combat readiness up.

Then I think they have to do something very bold.. If they have a clue where the Cylon Homeworld is, they should do a Tokyo style raid much like was done right after Pearl Harbor during WWII.. It would upset the crap out of the Cylons and be a boost to the moral of those on the battlestars and if the word got out to New Caprica, the Resistance as well/

The civilian fleet itself needs to go into hiding until called and just sit quietly. They are sitting ducks and a noose around the military right now. Maybe they can take on more survivors from the colonies if they are truely cylon free and rendevous with the Peggy civilian ships. They should then just hole up somewhere until called for.

The battlestars need to do some serious drills and get as many recruits up to speed as quickly as possible. They also need to rearm since wading into New Caprica space will require incredible amounts of mass into targets. Peggy can go toe to toe with modern base stars, but not a bunch of them. Galactica could probably deal with one alone or run assist with Peggy.

Ragnar Station is well known to the cylons and may not even exist anymore. That was the closest depot to the Galactica that had a full store when the original attack occurred. Who knows how many other depots are out there and were missed by the cylons. I'd check out the outer ones to see if they survived.

There is a ship in the fleet that is capable of ground assault if properly modified, it's the Geminon Traveler. It would make a perfect ground assault craft if properly up armored and up engined. Maybe the Geminons have already done this. It is a RORO (Roll on /Roll off) ship of small size that could deliver a mechanized force pretty quickly.

None of this makes any sense, if the fleet thought it was an option to save other survivors from the colonies would they not have send a big ship BACK a YEAR ago when Starbuck left Caprica and Brother Cavil said the Cylons had LEFT..

If it where an option to go back to the Colonies or other stations to "re-supply" why have they not done it in the last YEAR when they are obviously struggling on this new planet.

Then there is the logistics of FUEL remember that halfway through season one the fleet was running out of fuel to make jumps because they had gone so far. Yes I know they supplied up but still logic dictats that they flat out don't have the fuel to get back in the bigger ships to the colonies. Jumping Raptors back to the colonies to rescue a known group of survivors might have seemed worth the fuel but there is no way the fleet is going back.

Ragnaar is not an option,Remember in the mini series Adama says when they left Ragnar that they where jumping "beyond the red line" which probably means really far away from the colonies. they where not circling the colonies durring "33" they where jumping further and further away. Which means ragnar is no closer than the colonies again not an option.

I think they are going to load up averything they have on Pegasus and begin a series of hit and run attacks on the now imobil cylon fleet which makes them the easy target for once since the colonials will always have the element of surprise. The cylons will be caught in a conundrum in the without agents aboard the fleet it will be REALLY hard to find, and they can't really punish the humans planet-side since they are not in contact with the fleet, and thus are not "resisting" This creates the wonderful moral quandry of do you punish the innocent to try and stop the guilty??

Either way I think the only way out of this mess will be a cylon civil war...either happening...or for all we know there already is a cylon civil war and these cylons are the "good guys"...

Nelson

This post has been edited by Photorecon on Fri 7 Apr 06, 20:58

Ragnor anchorage wont be safe,
if the cylons didnt destroy it,
they would have mined it.

Since the miniseries Starbuck flew a Raider to the Colonies and a heavy Raider back to the fleet. She also lead a SAR mission from New Caprica to old Caprica in fleet of raptors (using the computer from the heavy raptor and Sharon) and back with out running out of fuel. So it's pretty clear they can do it and it's very possable they have done it on a limted basis during the year that went past. The only reason they may not done it is Sharon may not have cooperated due to the Hera situation. That may change if Adama tells her Hera is alive and makes a deal with her.