Episodes You would like to see made

I like these ideas! . . . . except for tainted.

Sorry guys, but its just way to Star Treky. This is dark and gritty Sci-Fi remember? If somebody gets infected with a bio-weapon, it should kill them. We don't need any miraculous instant cures.

Your right but if we kill off the main characters its not much of a show.

In the re-write I tried to work around the issue by stating up front the Cylons had a cure that worked on humnans but not bio Cylons; which is why the station is wrecked. The humans would then have to "hack" the station comptuer system to find where the antidote is located before the virus becomes lethal.
Any suggestions on how to improve the story concept?

Like the idea of medevac, there could be division between the convicts which could be exploited in a later episode. Anti colonial rebels and colonial millitary convicts. Both groups could have men serving voulntarily within the fleet marine corps, which leads to further tension, can the regular troops trust the penal squads?


There are also other possibilities for cylon R+D
The discovery of a Cylon / Human hybrid colony, monoatheistic and apparently unaware of the hostilities, they make no secret of thier Cylon lineage and appear to be ambivilent to the fleet. Possibly some of the human progenitors of the hybrid colonists may have provided genetic "blue prints" for the cylons to create the 12 copies. Will they aid the fleet? How did the hybridisation start? Why have the Cylons seemingly left them to thier own devices?

This could lead to a story arc on the creation of the 12 cylon copies, the possibility that there could be other "outposts" of humanity and questions of whether they originated from the 12 colonies or earth.

I like it. I had some thoughts along almost the same lines:
1. Before the existing 12 bio-cylons models went into production there may have been proto-types. These would have been discontinued or retired when the first generation went into production. Some may have escaped to the colonies were found a few friends and many potential enemies. Maybe it can serve as a backstory for you
2. One of male bio-cylons knocks up a human female. For reasons similar to Sharon's rational for defecting the Cylon hides the kid. I was going to make the proud papa the leoben copy Rosyln flushed out the air lock. The Leoben copy was on the way "home" to his family when the attack happened. Child and mother are presumed dead. Intended as a exercise in irony. The Cylons, in their lust for venegence destroy their future. This would need a lot of work to get too a hidden settlement of human/Cylon offpsring but feel free to use it if can help you.
3. The orginal series had the gun on ice planet zero maybe you can do something with it.

I'm thinking about writing a fanfic called "Pilgrim's Process" which entails the life and times of Crpl. Stenner (Roslin's prison guard) as he tracks down a self described "pilgrim" amongst Zarek's crew. This Pilgrim would be a worshiper of the 13th tribe's god, the one who tried to elevate himself above the rest. The Pilgrim would attempt to hide his faith for fear of being persecuted for his beliefs (which would entail a vow of poverty, much like the friars of medieval Europe) even BEFORE he finds out that the Cylons worship the same god and have interpreted the forbidden/censored scriptures in a much different light than the Pilgrim might expect. I'm thinking the Pilgrim might be a sleeper Cylon agent who resembles Simon, but I haven't decided yet. Maybe during the BSG spring break, I give it a go, though I gather some upcoming episodes may address some of the finer points of the Cylon's religion.

It was a halucinagen, not a bio weapon, per se. Had it been a bio weapon I would certainly have killed someone off. Maybe Duck -- no character with such a stupid callsign should be allowed to live.

It was a halucinagen, not a bio weapon, per se. Had it been a bio weapon I would certainly have killed someone off. Maybe Duck -- no character with such a stupid callsign should be allowed to live.

So your saying duck is not all he is quaked up to be?

It was a halucinagen, not a bio weapon, per se. Had it been a bio weapon I would certainly have killed someone off. Maybe Duck -- no character with such a stupid callsign should be allowed to live.

So your saying duck is not all he is quaked up to be?

Ow.

An episode that I would like to see would be something along the following two versions of the same end result… This would take place in the second half of season 3 and at this point we are assuming the Pegasus has been lost and the two crews have been on Galactica for a while.

Idea 1:

The fleet is traveling along and detects something that resembles a colonial constructed base. The come upon a long base similar to Ragnar or something along those lines that was a maintenance and re-supply base. The main difference was that this base had an FTL drive in it so it could jump to the fleet to do its work and jump out, but it had been lost and thought destroyed during a FTL test with ships docked. The ships that were used in the test are of the era of or slightly newer than Galactica and share some of the same components. At this base they find a colonial destroyer and two colonial cruisers. Two of the ships are so badly damaged that they will have to be searched for anything of value, stripped and destroyed… there is however a chance that they can get the one remaining battlecrusier back online and in working order. While they are searching they come across 20 or so mark 2 vipers or if they want to introduce some new older vipers like the mark 4 or 5 that would be cool. With the parts from the salvaged ships and from the Pegasus they manage to get enough parts together that they think that they can get the ship online. They steal the FTL from the base to get the cruisers FTL drive online, but because it is so bit it take a lot more power and the end result is that they may be able to jump further than any other ship in the fleet.

Idea 2:

Would be just finding a Colonial BattleCruiser adrift and getting it back online with the parts from the Pegasus. Something about testing an experimental FTL drive, there being a problem with the drive and the crew abandoning ship only to see the ship FTL away never to be seen again and being long forgotten about. The ship is mostly intact; it has been damaged while drifting through space. The era of the ship would be slightly newer than Galactica and have about 20 mark 4 or 5 vipers and the previous models of Raptors (if there is one) and shuttles on board. The FTL drive is experimental, but for the most part similar to the Pegasus FTL drive. The only thing is that it is over powered and again it may be able to jump further than any other Colonial ship.

End of either idea:

There of course needs to be something the goes wrong or makes the whole thing interesting… that could be anything from the Cylons showing up or a self destruct mechanism being tripped or something, but it comes down to Adama not wanting to leave the ship behind and telling the rest of the fleet to jump away and almost losing both ships. The president does not want to loose Galactica but know that this is a military decision and trust Adama will not sacrifice his ship or crew just for another ship. The rest of the fleet jumps away. Because this is Galactica they are able to get what is wrong fixed or able to hold off the Cylons long enough that both ships are able to jump away and join up with the fleet.

The reason I like either of these ideas is that it would give us another military ship in the fleet that is not a battlestar. It would also allow the Galactica or BattleCruiser to jump off on missions/recon and still have a ship protecting the fleet. That would be the main thing I would like to see… another non-battlestar military ship like a cruiser or destroyer. For the fun of it I even attempted to design a cruiser based on Galactica images if anyone is interested.

Anyways this was my main idea for a story… don’t know if it would really work or not, but I think it could be. What do others think?

I harbor an intense dislike for miraculous coincidences as they are the oldest ugliest crutch in writing. The scene in the mini series where Boomer and Helo land the raptor at a random spot and just happen to discover Boxy, whose dad was the liaison officer shown at armistice station and Baltar had me retching for hours, but I like your ideas a lot.

We can easily put a human settlement or two out in the middle of nowhere.
In a space faring civilizations dissidents and other out groups have the option to form their own settlements why not have one or two cults decide to travel as far from civilization as possible. You can also do the blind jump argument used for Pegasus, only this time the crew didn’t survive either because the jump was done incorrectly or a Cylon sleeper agent succeeded in its mission after the initial jump and before the ship could figure out where it was. You could also do a outpost or way station left by the people of Kobol. After three thousand years it should be rubble but a quick and dirty excavation might turn something up. The mechanism in the tomb of Athena that gave the location of earth was operational after all that time so its not impossible something else could still be working.

I would really like to see some of the other warships.

We can even tie this in to some of the other suggestions. What if this settlement was a cult worshipping a single diety and led by Six, Leoben or simon, or some combination of the three. What if the "prophet" had a small clutch of kids after spreading the "word" with some disciples. having turned their back on the whole human/cylon conflict in order to get closer to god the cult now has to chose whose side they are on. The old warships or at elast vipers and shuttles/raptors could be surplus left over from the first cylon war that cult used to transport themselves to their new home.

firstly, feel free to expand. on the ---

my idea:

sec1 = 3 raptors enter an asteroid field (containing various key charachters like starbuck helo and racetrack, who have just finished scouting the local planet.) and come across a very badly damaged vessel (civilan but with weapons) - now most of the ship is gone or open to space and only a few things work. The whole episode has a haunghted house effect. After a cylon raider attacks, and cripples two of them, the lone working raptor flees back to galactica while the other have no choise but to go aboard the ship and conduct repairs.
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sec2 = the cylon send a attack party to the ship as well (centurions and a couple of humanoids) - the colonials leave the two pilots behind to fix the ships while the rest keep the cylons away by going deeper into the ship trying to hide until the raptors are repaired or help comes.
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sec3 = the cylons don't f they go o to picall for the plan and kill the two pilots without alerting the others. they go on to pick off the unnamed colonials.
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sec4 = galactic's vipers destroying the guarding raiders while a raptor flys into the ships flight pod ( - there is no air on the flight pod and the colonials have put their helmets are back on.) and in the final moment when only a handfull of centurions remain, the raptor comes slaming down onto the runway, crushing the centurions and savig starbuck and the rest.
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excellent adventure story. If you continue working it up you might try to give the ship some specific salavage value other wise the toasters can simply blow the thing up. Efficent but it makes for a very short episode.

thanks. ill probobly update it tomorow , fill in the missing spaces, and actualy have a B plot.

BTW for them not blowing it up i was thinking they had been tracking starbuck before hand (on the planet) and now they took a chance of kidnapping her.

thanks. ill probobly update it tomorow , fill in the missing spaces, and actualy have a B plot.

BTW for them not blowing it up i was thinking they had been tracking starbuck before hand (on the planet) and now they took a chance of kidnapping her.

good thought but why would they want ruin a perfectly good day by kidnapping Starbuck?

I'm close to finish on the reworking of the post tainted story. I've sweated the beast down to under six hundred words and broke it up into acts.

At the moment I'm wondring if it makes sense to anyone that a splinter group of cylons would defect to the galactica in order to be with Sharon's brat?

Just thought of another.

Derelict
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A member of the Quorum of 12 (we'll call him John) is trying to pass a peice of anti-cylon legislation regarding the ethical and unethical treatment of prisoners that would have very ugly consequences for any cylons discovered posing as humans in the fleet (think Gina on Pegasus).

Before he can try to get his bill or whatever passed his ship experiences a freak malfunction. There is an explosion and fire and some people are killed. The ship is too far gone and damage control is a waste of time at this point so Adama sends Raptor crews to evacuate the passengers before the whole ship blows.

Helo and some others are herding people off the ship as fast as possible as the fires in parts of the ship will spread to the fuel lines before too long.

They think they have everyone but John the Quorum member says that his friend (we'll call him Alex) is still in the back of the ship. He said he was right behind them but he hasn't seen him anywhere. Helo goes to quickly look for the man while the remaining passengers board the last raptor.

Helo finds John's friend, who reveals himself to be a new cylon model they haven't encountered before. It turns out the malfunction was an act of sabatage on his part in response to this new legislation.

Before Helo can get back to the raptor there is another explosion and the raptor is forced to pull away from the ship. They can't dock in that place again so they're going to have to circle around to an area where they won't get blown up and cut a hole in the bulk head to get Helo off the ship. The communicate this to him over the wireless.

But they can't risk docking again while Alex is still alive so Helo has to take him out somehow before he can be rescued, which he has only minutes to do before the ship blows. Helo can't over power Alex physically, so he tries talking to him. He learns Alex sabataged the ship out of an inexplicable feeling of betrayal at this new legislation John was trying to pass. As it turns out there is a little bit of Sharon in the Alex model -- in their time on the ship he had come to regard John as a genuine friend despite him being a human.

This, of course will seem a bit rediculous to all the characters -- as well as the viewers -- since the cylons killed everyone on the colonies. But since the cylons are so inexperienced with emotions in general (and as we have seen, have a habit of underestimating them), it doesn't really make sense to Alex either. He just had an emotional reaction, which surprised even him, and this is what happened.

Unable to defeat his opponenet and running out of time, Helo gets an idea and gets a wireless feed to the raptor so Alex can talk to John. Really broken up by what has happened John makes an impassioned plea for Alex to stop what he's doing. He tries to get him to agree to let himself be taken to Galactica where they can hash this out, but he can't quite get through to his former friend.

In the end, feeling emotionally defeated, Alex stops fighting Helo and goes back into the bowels of the ship rather than be taken prisoner. The raptor crew gets Helo off the ship in time and it blows up with Alex inside.

Episode ends with John going to Roslin and throwing out his cylon legislation, deciding that it was too harsh and he's going to rethink the whole thing.
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Or, change Alex to Alexandra, make it a romantic relationship rather than a friendship, and have her problems with John be the impetus for Helo to work out some problems he and Sharon are having. I'm nothing if not flexible.

This post has been edited by Razorback on Sun 15 Jan 06, 11:10

Razorback, that's a high-quality piece of fan-fic there. I give it three snaps.

This is better, although I would shift the focus of the action a little.

Instead of a computer hacking story, prisoner Sharon knows the location of the antidote on a cylon research station. The galactica/pegasus crews must stage a marine boarding action to get onto the station, recover the antidote, and destroy the bio-weapons research lab that produced the experimental virus.

The cylons will be able to recreate the research from backups elsewhere, but now that the colonials have the antidote, it will be worthless, in the meantime the cylons have lost an advance research lab and who knows what else it was cooking up.

How is that?

What if...
What if everyone on BSG were really cylons and they were programmed to think they were humans.
They were programmed to mimic the best humans they had information on.
What if the whole show was an elaborate ultimate mission/simulation of the last desperate ragtag group of Cylons to find a home for themselves while they were programmed to think they were really humans. Because the cylons really did lose the war and they are fleeing now.

Perhaps the cylons are programmed to be humans because they knew humans were in fact superior in creativity and ingenuity and stood the best last chance to find a home for themselves away from those pesky humans.

And that the cylons they have been fighting were actually humans but they are programmed to perceive them as cylons.

I know this sounds a little far fetched but isn't it so cool to turn BSG upside down! Like a parallel universe a la twisted matrix style.

A while back somebody suggested a story about a cylon ship marooned in a system left over from the cylon wars. Probably too far out from Caprica to do that now, but I thought it sounded neat.