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 Ten Questions For Season Three, Epic 'Burdens II' poses new wonders
Viper1212
Posted: Sat 11 Mar 06, 18:51


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Can't wait to read others' questions, after the Season II finale. Here are my top 10:
1. Was there more to Lee and Kara's falling out than that scene between her, Lee and Anders? (Tigh tells Kara, "that was a long time ago, people change.")
2. What exactly was Tyrol referring to, during his speech, when he says he and other workers are being "asked to do something so perverted" by the Baltar regime that it made him and others "sick in their hearts"?
3. Where is Tom Zarek? Wouldn't he be Baltar's logical choice for vice-president? Where was he in the last scene with Baltar's cabinet?
4. How in the hell will the orbital defense patrol fight back with a skeleton crew and limited resources against an armada of Cylon base stars?
5. How will any resistance be mounted on New Caprica when the city is occupied and there seem to be no weapons of any kind?
6. The looks on the New Capricans' faces were of utter resignation and defeat as they saw the occupation army roll through. They've already been through a nuclear holocaust, then an epic fight for freedom. Have they all - except for Kara - lost the will to fight again?
7. Are Cavil and Sharon still in Galactica's brig?
8. Knowing Adama as we do, why was he so quick to let his guard down? Or was the military reduction an order of Baltar?
9. Are there any other settlements on New Caprica besides New Caprica City? With 39,000 residents, that may allow for a few hundred strays, pioneers, recluses, members of a religious order or dissidents to try and make it somewhere else.
10. What will be the Cylon plan for humanity now that humanity has been reconquered? Slavery? Extermination? Forced cross-breeding? In the lone decent episode of "Galactica 1980," "The Return of Satrbuck," a toaster essentially tells the old Starbuck the Cylons must exterminate humanity in order to organize the universe. Old Starbuck then asks the toaster: "So what do you do when you have it organized?" The Cylon had no answer.
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Posted: Sat 11 Mar 06, 19:43


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Rather than add 10 more, here's a few:
- Did Adama just let people out of their military service ? Would you just be given an option to shed the uniform and join the settlers ? I could understand a rotation system, so many days/weeks on then back planetside to your house type of thing, but Starbuck looked like she had been native for a while.
- Trust the Cylons ? It seems to have the envisioned mass planetside exodus,the people would have had to believe the Cylons weren't still pursuing humanity, after they wacked most of humankind I don't think I'd trust them that easy (maybe those were the folks who stayed in orbit).
- A little breathing room. Of course resources may dictate but if there is a whole new planet, and the Pres seems slightly warped, why not set up your log cabin a good distance away from the very large, very Cylon attractive new Caprica city ? Perhaps any new Cylon invaders might miss you. A la Anders. (I know people are generally social critters and do tend to congregate, however).

Quite a few more out there, but still one fun season finale.
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What's with Leoben's urgent need to find Kara Thrace?

What that Boomer or jump another Eight meeting with Baltar?



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Viper1212
Posted: Sat 11 Mar 06, 20:17


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What up,RDog? victory.gif
As for your Leoben-Kara question, I can only imagine that Leoben's wanting to quickly find her was to 1)immediately apprehend her, knowing she'd be the probable leader of any planetside resistance; 2)have some kind of truce negotiation with her; or 3)perhaps answer that question raised in "The Farm" by Cylon-Sharon when she told Starbuck the Cylons consider her to be "special."
Also, there's gotta be some yet-to-be resolved situation with Leoben and Kara. Remember, in Season One, on "Flesh and Bone," Leoben already knew who Starbuck was before she questioned him and the Cylon Simon knew who Starbuck was before performing medical tests on her in "The Farm."
And who knows exactly what kinds of medical work Simon did on Starbuck - perhaps extracting genetic material for later Cylon use?
The possibilities are endlessly creepy.
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More questions.....
  • How could Baltar have lasted a year without being assinated or overthrown?
  • Why did Roslin just stop going after Baltar and set up a New Caprica version of "Romper Room". (See above)
  • Forget the question of why they haven't built better shelters, why are they camping out on the surface at all?
  • What type of "union" is the Chief the head of?
  • Why do they need a Union in an agrarian based society anyway?
  • Do they have people assigned to Latrine duty?


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PegasusActual
Posted: Sun 12 Mar 06, 1:33


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Hmm... I had a few questions of my own after this as well:
  • Is Gaeta working for President Baltar in some kind of official capacity? If so, does this mean he threw in his loyalties against Adama and Tigh after the rigged election?
  • Why did Gina detonate the nuclear bomb? Was it to signal her fellow Cylons as to the whereabouts of New Caprica? If so, why did it take them a whole year to get there?
  • On the heels of that question, wasn't Gina part of the peace movement? Where the hell did they disappear to? And doesn't her rather dramatic suicide remove any leverage from the peace movement? Now that they're on New Caprica, is there any use for a peace movement?
  • For weeks now, we've been told (and the BSG website has indicated) that the final episodes would feature a peace offering by the Cylons which included a demand for a group of humans on a periodic basis for the Cylon breeding program. The peace offering was extended, but nothing mentioning the breeding program was dealt with. In fact, the takeover of New Caprica by the Cylons seems to go against the peace offering extended earlier. So, has the breeding program demand been pushed to next season? Is the takeover an indication of the split between the two Cylon factions? Or was the settlement on New Caprica a last-minute change to the direction of the series in an attempt to be "shocking"?

Something tells me that this story development was an 11th hour decision on the part of the writing staff. I'm certainly intrigued by it, and I hope it works. But I hope they have an endgame to this entire series, too. At the current moment, it seems like they're still flying by the seat of their pants.

PegasusActual, out.
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Posted: Sun 12 Mar 06, 2:09


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QUOTE (PegasusActual @ Sun 12 Mar 06, 1:33)
Hmm... I had a few questions of my own after this as well:
  • Is Gaeta working for President Baltar in some kind of official capacity? If so, does this mean he threw in his loyalties against Adama and Tigh after the rigged election?
  • Why did Gina detonate the nuclear bomb? Was it to signal her fellow Cylons as to the whereabouts of New Caprica? If so, why did it take them a whole year to get there?
  • On the heels of that question, wasn't Gina part of the peace movement? Where the hell did they disappear to? And doesn't her rather dramatic suicide remove any leverage from the peace movement? Now that they're on New Caprica, is there any use for a peace movement?
  • For weeks now, we've been told (and the BSG website has indicated) that the final episodes would feature a peace offering by the Cylons which included a demand for a group of humans on a periodic basis for the Cylon breeding program. The peace offering was extended, but nothing mentioning the breeding program was dealt with. In fact, the takeover of New Caprica by the Cylons seems to go against the peace offering extended earlier. So, has the breeding program demand been pushed to next season? Is the takeover an indication of the split between the two Cylon factions? Or was the settlement on New Caprica a last-minute change to the direction of the series in an attempt to be "shocking"?
Something tells me that this story development was an 11th hour decision on the part of the writing staff. I'm certainly intrigued by it, and I hope it works. But I hope they have an endgame to this entire series, too. At the current moment, it seems like they're still flying by the seat of their pants.

PegasusActual, out.

It appeared to me that Gaeta was a typical staffer working for a boss he didn't really like.

I think that Gina detonated the bomb to kill herself and as a final blow to the humans, I'm just surprised she didn't make a play for Pegasus. As for why it took a year, I think it was Doral who mentioned that they were a lightyear away and detected the nuclear detonation. Being a lightyear away, they wouldn't have seen the detonation until a year later. At that time they jumped to New Caprica.

Hopefully, the rest of the peace movement was still on Cloud 9. Probably not important to the storyline.

I hadn't heard anything about demands for a breeding program. Where did you see that?


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Posted: Sun 12 Mar 06, 4:58


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QUOTE (RDog @ Sat 11 Mar 06, 19:52)
What's with Leoben's urgent need to find Kara Thrace?

What that Boomer or jump another Eight meeting with Baltar?

What is her destiny? Perhaps her ovary sample has been successfully combined with Leoben's sperm and he wanted to tell her the good news.

I'm pretty sure that was Boomer. Actually I think she was wearing the same outfit as in Downloaded, or a similiar one.
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QUOTE (Noneofyourbusiness @ Sun 12 Mar 06, 5:58)
QUOTE (RDog @ Sat 11 Mar 06, 19:52)
What's with Leoben's urgent need to find Kara Thrace? 

What that Boomer or jump another Eight meeting with Baltar?

What is her destiny? Perhaps her ovary sample has been successfully combined with Leoben's sperm and he wanted to tell her the good news.

I'm pretty sure that was Boomer. Actually I think she was wearing the same outfit as in Downloaded, or a similiar one.

Maybe our Boomer is prisoner of the cylons and is forced to carry Kara's unborn child in her. headscratch.gif headscratch.gif shok.gif


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Not so specifically related to exact plot but

-Since the "cylon plan" is obviously different now will we get a different opening show teaser "Man created the cylons..."?

One could say the cylons now just have a new plan and use the same teaser.


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My biggest question: WIll there be deus ex machina?

and the answer better be no
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My question: where are people getting the idea that the settlers on NC have no weapons? Was that stated in a podcast or something? They have a security force that works for Baltar, so I'm assuming they must also have some sort of armory for those guys. And I would also find it strange if Starbuck wasn't packing some guns somewhere, knowing her.

Another question: while it is interesting that they have finally started running out of meds, how hard would it be for them to manufacture some basic antibiotics, like penicilin?


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I noticed that the Cylon Priest Brother model said that there was no God. Up until then, they were very religious. My pet theory is that the "death" of the promised cyber-baby upturned their worldview. Now, the baby is alive on NC. If they find out that they have been tricked and "God's" plan worked, they may decide to wipe out the Human Race again. That might set up Baltar in his original seris role of chasing Humanity around the universe as an adversary. Anyway, I like the ending of the second season for what is was- different than regular TV. smilie_3838.gif
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Medicine is A LOT harder to make than engines
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QUOTE (DonGlock26 @ Sun 12 Mar 06, 18:46)
I noticed that the Cylon Priest Brother model said that there was no God. Up until then, they were very religious. My pet theory is that the "death" of the promised cyber-baby upturned their worldview. Now, the baby is alive on NC. If they find out that they have been tricked and "God's" plan worked, they may decide to wipe out the Human Race again. That might set up Baltar in his original seris role of chasing Humanity around the universe as an adversary. Anyway, I like the ending of the second season for what is was- different than regular TV. smilie_3838.gif

It's only that one model that doesn't believe in God. Each has a different interpretation.
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QUOTE (Mah-koo-ross @ Sun 12 Mar 06, 15:39)
My question: where are people getting the idea that the settlers on NC have no weapons? Was that stated in a podcast or something? They have a security force that works for Baltar, so I'm assuming they must also have some sort of armory for those guys. And I would also find it strange if Starbuck wasn't packing some guns somewhere, knowing her.


they have weapons but they are at the moment out numbered so those weapons aren't going to be much use.


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If the Six in this episode is the same one who was bonking Baltar on Caprica wouldn't it mean that these Cylons are pro-human? Baltar surrendered before they even said what they wanted.


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QUOTE (MattLee @ Mon 13 Mar 06, 0:02)
If the Six in this episode is the same one who was bonking Baltar on Caprica wouldn't it mean that these Cylons are pro-human? Baltar surrendered before they even said what they wanted.



of course he did because he is a coward, and those cylons are pro human but they have to appear tough.


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QUOTE (sharonlover @ Mon 13 Mar 06, 2:09)
QUOTE (MattLee @ Mon 13 Mar 06, 0:02)
If the Six in this episode is the same one who was bonking Baltar on Caprica wouldn't it mean that these Cylons are pro-human? Baltar surrendered before they even said what they wanted.



of course he did because he is a coward, and those cylons are pro human but they have to appear tough.

Exactly. No negotiation or political maneuver in the BSGverse, or ours, has ever involved sweet or casual language.
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Actually Baltar's surrender was the only intelligent thing he's done to date. What was he going to use to stop the Cylons, harsh language? The question now is to the terms the Cylons wish to invoke in order to love and control their creators. This in turn takes us to a very special 36 hours in which Boom Boom and Natasi won over the hearts and minds of their brothers and sisters.

What deals did they have to cut in order to get a reorientation of Cylon war aims? Perhaps there are wheels with in wheels. The Boomer & Natasi show may have had only a partial victory. A temporay stay of execution till some problem is worked out. A handful of dissidents may support Boomer and they are working incognito with in the larger Cylon plan.

Which brings us to the breeding program. A failed breeding program puts the Cylons at risk of extinction. Thats a good reason to have a cease fire. Also Early spoilers stated the toasters were going to demand a blood sacrifice. A percentage of the humans to be shipped to caprica and tested (fatally?) as part of the breeding program. Maybe it was dropped. Maybe they used kara's missing ovary to create an other messiah and they are now looking for full time breeders not lab rats. October tells all.


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