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 Rescue Mission, How do you get the people of the planet?
Raptor359
Posted: Thu 21 Sep 06, 3:37


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I don't have a password to the Rumor Mill, so I apologize if this topic has been addressed in another thread. I'm interested in some speculation or rumors about how Adama mounts his rescue mission.

Here's what we know:

1. We have roughly 39,000 people on the surface of New Caprica.
2. By the time season 3 opens, the occupation has been underway for 4 months and the Cylons are on the planet in full force.
3. The two battlestars have jumped away with the civilian fleet and are running on skeleton crews.

My question is three-fold:

1. How do you think the two battlestars with skeleton crews mount an attack against the Cylon fleet (that is presumably still in orbit)?
2. How do the civilians on the planet overtake the Cylon occupation force to escape the planet?
3. How do you get 39,000 people off the planet without the civiilian transports becoming shooting targets for the orbiting Cylon fleet?
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You get Sharon to send the virus again and shut them all down! Just thinking out loud!
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1. Well we know that Adama is going to rig the Pegasus, blowing it up right in the Cylons' faces thus destroying at least 3 basestars.

2. I'm thinking that it's full war going on between The resistance & Cylons down on the planet when Galactica and Pegasus arrive. It's possible that Adama immediately sends Raptors with marines to the planet.

3. They must somehow destroy all the Cylons. Most probably they kick the Cylons' asses so hard the Cylons flee and therefore giving Colonials the time to pack and head off.

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weissman
Posted: Thu 21 Sep 06, 16:27


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From what I understand, the Cylon Centurions are programed to never shoot a Human-Cylon (This was mentioned by Aaron Douglas at a Convenmtion), in this case Sharon hihi.gif . This being the case there is an awful lot Sharon can do to help the humans get off the planet and slow down the Cylons. We already know that Sharon plays a critical role in teh rescue of the humans down on CapII.

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Raptor359
Posted: Tue 26 Sep 06, 22:57


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It does seem like there will be some coordinated effort down on the planet. And it makes sense that Sharon would lead that effort, particularly if the centurions can't harm her.

Interesting comments on the Pegasus. Although I can't understand why they would blow her up. In the Captain's Hand, the Pegasus was able to go toe to toe with 3 baseships even when taken by surprise. Plus we know from the extended episode of "Pegasus" that she doesn't require as big a crew to operate as Galactica. Maybe the Pegasus just goes down in an all out firefight with more than three base ships.
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Posted: Tue 26 Sep 06, 23:14


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Plus we know from the extended episode of "Pegasus" that she doesn't require as big a crew to operate as Galactica. Maybe the Pegasus just goes down in an all out firefight with more than three base ships.
This does sound like a possibility, but we will have to see.

I wonder how people will treat Sharon when its learned that she was instrumental in the rescue.

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1. Well we know that Adama is going to rig the Pegasus, blowing it up right in the Cylons' faces thus destroying at least 3 basestars.
2. I'm thinking that it's full war going on between The resistance & Cylons down on the planet when Galactica and Pegasus arrive. It's possible that Adama immediately sends Raptors with marines to the planet.
3. They must somehow destroy all the Cylons. Most probably they kick the Cylons' asses so hard the Cylons flee and therefore giving Colonials the time to pack and head off.


This supposes that Adama uses the Peg as a giant mouse trap, drwing the Cylons in and then blowing them up, and using this as part of a coordinated attack down on the planet.

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I wonder how people will treat Sharon when its learned that she was instrumental in the rescue.


Well we know from the promo photos that she has regained Adama's trust. I think her efforts in rescuing the civilians will definitely restore the trust of her fellow soldiers. Getting the civilian population to fully accept her is a different story. Unless you are one of the people that has one on one contact with her, I think it will be difficult to get past the fact that she is a Cylon.

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This supposes that Adama uses the Peg as a giant mouse trap, drwing the Cylons in and then blowing them up, and using this as part of a coordinated attack down on the planet.


Since Pegasus is the superior warship, it makes sense that she would be deployed to lead the offensive againt the Cylon fleet. And most likely sacrificed in the process. Galactica is probably running block while transports retrieve the civilians from the planet surface.
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Well we know from the promo photos that she has regained Adama's trust. I think her efforts in rescuing the civilians will definitely restore the trust of her fellow soldiers. Getting the civilian population to fully accept her is a different story. Unless you are one of the people that has one on one contact with her, I think it will be difficult to get past the fact that she is a Cylon.
I agree , but its a first step in the right direction.

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Posted: Thu 5 Oct 06, 21:16


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There would be another resurrecting ship around New Caprica, or a resurrecting facility be built on the planet. Granted, they will be heavily guarded. But what about hijack the ship or take control the facility until the cylons agree to let the colonists go?


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QUOTE (WhitePolarBear @ Thu 5 Oct 06, 21:16)
There would be another resurrecting ship around New Caprica, or a resurrecting facility be built on the planet. Granted, they will be heavily guarded. But what about hijack the ship or take control the facility until the cylons agree to let the colonists go?

That would seem plausible and would certainly buy the colonists sufficient time to get off the planet. The best part is that it would really make the Cylons squirm. good.gif
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Posted: Thu 5 Oct 06, 22:03


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NOYB and Rapotor359:
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But what about hijack the ship or take control the facility until the cylons agree to let the colonists go?


That's plausable and would go along with Sharon going undercover, but I have a feeling that the escape of the colonists will entail a little more fireworks and a lot less diplomacy.

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QUOTE (weissman @ Thu 5 Oct 06, 22:03)
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But what about hijack the ship or take control the facility until the cylons agree to let the colonists go?


Thats a plausable possibility, and would go along with Sharon going undercover, but I have a feeling that the escape of the colonists will entail a little more fireworks and a lot less diplomacy.

Bob W
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I agree, there's definately going to be alot of fireworks and a highly coordinated attack. I have a vision of the Galactica providing cover for the escaping civilian transports reminiscent of the escape from Ragnar Anchorage. Unfortunately, I think we are also going to see the destruction of the Pegasus as part of the rescue effort. Probably as she goes toe to toe with the Cylon fleet.
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I think we are also going to see the destruction of the Pegasus as part of the rescue effort. Probably as she goes toe to toe with the Cylon fleet.


Thats seems to be the general concensus. But do we really think this is where the pegasus buy it.

BTW-I still think it beyond great that the rescue is all due to Sharon mml.gif , and I don't care if people don't like it. Sharon rules and Sharon and Helo forever.


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QUOTE (weissman @ Thu 5 Oct 06, 22:19)
BTW-I still think it beyond  great that the rescue is all due to Sharon mml.gif , and I don't care if people don't like it. Sharon rules and Sharon and Helo forever.

Sharon leading the rescue mission on the planet is beyond great. I don't think the rescue of the civilian population could be effected without her. Besides, it's awesome to finally see her out of that prison cell. Would it be to sexist to have her lead the rescue mission in a swimsuit? 24.gif
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Besides, it's awesome to finally see her out of that prison cell. Would it be to sexist to have her lead the rescue mission in a swimsuit?
[QUOTE]Damm staright-Hooah!

Its something that Sharon fans have been waiting for almost two years.

I am interested in seeing exactly what Sharon does that facilitates the escape.

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BTW-I still think it beyond great that the rescue is all due to Sharon  , and I don't care if people don't like it. Sharon rules and Sharon and Helo forever.


Like any other machine it is a tool used to produce a result. Pure and simple.

Some people will forgive the Cylon and others will not. I would not.

Also, if Sharon is an officer in the fleet again, then it is her duty to give up the other Cylons in the fleet. She swore an oath, and if she is worth her salt, she will do just that.


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I have to say that this series has taken a turn for the better!!!! Just saw the new episode on the colonist on New Caprica and I am definitely into what is going. Dose anyone know of any good information about the series and how in the world they are going to mount an effective rescue and fend off the Cylon occupation force?
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QUOTE (Strensk @ Fri 6 Oct 06, 23:09)
Also, if Sharon is an officer in the fleet again, then it is her duty to give up the other Cylons in the fleet. She swore an oath, and if she is worth her salt, she will do just that.

I think the "give up other cylons in the fleet" will not be an issue being brought up in Season three. Since the occupation, I think the civilians are very familiar with the faces of the cylons. Just like Anders said to Sharon when they met at the river,"I feel like I see your faces very day".

Yes, there are five more cylon models remain as mystery. But RDM and others have mentioned that those won't be disclosed any time soon.

In some people's mind, the Sharon loyalty is always an issue. But as for the storyline goes, there are so many other things more interesting in Season 3 that Sharon's loyalty can be put in the backburner if you like.


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QUOTE (WhitePolarBear @ Sat 7 Oct 06, 18:42)
QUOTE (Strensk @ Fri 6 Oct 06, 23:09)
Also, if Sharon is an officer in the fleet again, then it is her duty to give up the other Cylons in the fleet. She swore an oath, and if she is worth her salt, she will do just that.

I think the "give up other cylons in the fleet" will not be an issue being brought up in Season three. Since the occupation, I think the civilians are very familiar with the faces of the cylons. Just like Anders said to Sharon when they met at the river,"I feel like I see your faces very day".

Yes, there are five more cylon models remain as mystery. But RDM and others have mentioned that those won't be disclosed any time soon.

In some people's mind, the Sharon loyalty is always an issue. But as for the storyline goes, there are so many other things more interesting in Season 3 that Sharon's loyalty can be put in the backburner if you like.

I think the whole issue of Sharon's loyalty is being put to the side this season. We are quickly lead to believe that it is no longer an issue with Adama early in the episode. Hopefully this will lead to some meaningful storylines for Sharon this season or it could just be to lull us into a false sense of security before she shoots Adama again. cylonA.gif Either way, she's critical to the rescue effort.

Back to getting the civilians off the planet. Other than some detentions, it didn't seem as though there alot of outright mass murders during the four months of Cylon occupation. The round-up of the insurgents seemed to be the first real mass murder planned by the Cylons. That being said, my guess is that the most civilian casualties will be incurred during the escape. Probably when the Cylons start taking pot shots at the civilians ships. Someone mentioned in another post that getting civilians onto ships will be difficult in the midst of gunfire when human instinct is to freeze up. They also mentioned that the ships have been sitting for over a year and will most likely be difficult to prepare for flight (even is they can find those darn "ship keys"). I hope some of former inmates in the population know how to "hot wire" a ship. hihi.gif

Based on the practice manuevers, I think it's clear that both the Galactica and Pegasus have their work cut out for them when they take on the base ships. It sounds like there will be some use of decoys to draw the Cylons out. In the end, some vessel is going to have to detain base ships and I think it's going to be the Pegasus.
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QUOTE (WhitePolarBear @ Sat 7 Oct 06, 14:42)
QUOTE (Strensk @ Fri 6 Oct 06, 23:09)
Also, if Sharon is an officer in the fleet again, then it is her duty to give up the other Cylons in the fleet. She swore an oath, and if she is worth her salt, she will do just that.

I think the "give up other cylons in the fleet" will not be an issue being brought up in Season three. Since the occupation, I think the civilians are very familiar with the faces of the cylons. Just like Anders said to Sharon when they met at the river,"I feel like I see your faces very day".

Yes, there are five more cylon models remain as mystery. But RDM and others have mentioned that those won't be disclosed any time soon.

In some people's mind, the Sharon loyalty is always an issue. But as for the storyline goes, there are so many other things more interesting in Season 3 that Sharon's loyalty can be put in the backburner if you like.

I agree that identifying the other Cylons may not be an important issue for now, but it would still be Sharon's duty to point out any Cylons that haven't been disclosed officially.

Maybe they'll have a show where Sharon sees another Cylon who is anonymous to the human population and wrestles with her conscience about disclosure, but just as she's about to point the finger, finds out that Hera is alive and the just goes apeshit all over the place for revenge... semoque.gif


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