reference Ep 220:
Kara Thrace and Col Tigh may actually need to work together for a change. It should be good to see Tigh back in direct action rather than standing on the Galactica's CiC watching the fight. Tyrol looks ready to take up arms, but it will be a different fight this time. I hope the writers get some lessons in squad-level tactics and Guerrilla Warfare before they get too far into season 3.
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Was that Boomer or just another Eight who met with Baltar at teh end of episode 220? It was definitely Caprica-Six, but the Eight didn't have much to say and didn't seem to be the Boomer personality.

If that's the case, where is Boomer? Is she part of a Cylon faction that does not want to control the humans? Was she maybe a bit too vocal and had to get some distance to avoid being boxed? Will Boomer help the human resistance against the Cylons?

Doral is Doral, but what about Leoben and his seemingly frantic need to find Kara Thrace? What was that about, why the rush?

IMO something is not quite in order within the Cylon "Gov't" and my thinking is that it has already factionalized with some (those we see meeting with Baltar in the last 5 Min of ep 220) wanting to control the humans, and another faction who will side with the human resistance.

The more I think about it, Dog, I think you're right about Leoben's trying to get with Kara to fight together.
You're right on in thinking there's no way the New Capricans fight off the Cylons and eventually get off that rock without some Cylon help. Leoben wasn't with the other Cylons when they met with Baltar and his cabinet.
Maybe Leoben's the leader of some Cylon fifth column.
Also, the stage may be clearly set for some the original series Baltar redux, where he may find himself at first a Cylon puppet president and later, embraced as part of the Cylon braintrust after he'll no doubt be spurned by the rest of humanity for his dictatorial ways, betrayal and collaboration.

Actually, I think Boomer is the leader of the Fifth Column, but the Leoben we see looking for Kara is working with her. All speculation from the tea leaves we saw in ep 220. But I see Baltar acting as a Cylon colaborator (while rationalizing that since he's President it's not really treason), while Boomer and other Cylons including Leoben assist the human resistance. With teh ep 220 set-up, I can see lots of role reversal potential.

Dr. Baltar in the re-imagined series is doing it (treason) for love. All is fair in love and war.

10 bucks says zarack sides with roslin, becuase tom wants a democratic gov't above all else

Totaly agree with that is if Zarack is still alive.

I see that as well especially once scuttlebutt gets out about what Roslin knows about Baltar.I seriously want to know why Leoban was looking for Kara.I don't know how I am going to get through this next 6 months knowing Laura is down on Cylon occupied New Caprica.I just hope the Cylons don't know about Hera....

Brother Cavil said there is no God while Leobon believes in God. The Leobon that we saw was the most religious oriented cylon in the show. He embraced the prophecies and believes in destiny. He said that Kara is special. I think he would also believe the human and cylon have their roles in God's will. He may help the remaining human so that they can play their roles.

In "the Farm", Sharon mentioned that Leobon told Kara that she is special. Maybe there is a connection between the Number eight model and the Leobon model in general? Would that connection be enough to create an alliance between Boomer and the Leobon who looked for Kara?

I think it could be a religiouis belief element in the play that put Leobon separated from other cylons. Is he teaming up with Boomer in the background to help the humans?

I am so hoping this is the case as I will loose it if they put Kara in a farm.Heck I am going to loose it when I see any Colonial woman going to a farm...That whole sequence in the Farm was nerve racking.I do so hope Boomer/8 and Leoben are "good" Cylons.I still am hoping for the redemption of Boomer.Leoben I can see being kind to Kara.They made a connection back in season 1 as I believe Leoben saw Kara as being different from the rest.Who knows at this point...

He's probrably the Headteacher of that little school.

My thinking is that when the last remnants of humanity leave New Caprica, they may leave President Baltar behind, but they will bring along some of the Cylons who want to save humanity. So rather than Cylons automatically getting a private room in the brig, they will be active members of the crew. . . and Adama still won't trust them.

First half of season 3 should see some major changes in hte dynamics of the show.

1. I think its fairly obvious that Sharon will play a pivotal role in saving the humans down on Cap II, but some things have changed and some things should be taken into consideration.

2. Helo being XO of the galactica and the year time jump, I think at the very least Sharon and Helo will be back together when the series resumes or soon after in one way shape or form. Helo loves Sharon too much for anything else. Plus I don't think Sharon will be able to shun him for a year. With Helo being XO, I think he will be able to see Sharon when ever he wants. This also plays into the fact that RM has said we would be surprised by where Sharon is after a year. Well if we assume that she is still on the Galactica, which is a pretty good assumption since where ever Sharon is Helo is, then the only place that "Sharon Being" wouldn't be a surprise would be the brig. (I am trying to say that her being in the brig wouldn't be a surprise)

3. How does Hera fit into all this, will she have an impact on how Sharon reacts, will she be used as a carrot to obtain Sharon cooperation in saving the RTF at New Capricia.

4. Also the dynamic between the Cylons and the Humans, has just changed on a basic level (This is a major change for the series). Originally the cylons were chasing the humans in an attempt to exterminate them, now it looks like that is no longer the case. Instead they are chasing them, or in this case caught them for what will turn out to be two reasons.

A. The farms it appears do not work, and if the cylons want to succede as a race they need the humans to procreate. The Cylons now need the humans to live.
B. It looks like the Cylons, now having lost one of their main purposes for living have gotten another, that being taking care of the humans. Whether they want to be taken care of or not.

5. In addition

This is the set up for the conflict among the Cylons, IMHO that's a conflict between the D'anna character and Boomer and there view of the Cylons.

Bob W
Sharon Rocks

Too bad Hatch is a guest star and we know by default the president on this show has to be a regular cast. Otherwise, with Roslin teaching kids and Baltar's unpopular poll at all time high, Zarek should run for President.

You know what, I think the reason we didn't see Zarek on Baltar's staff because he wants to distance himself from Baltar. He is planning something.

This post has been edited by WhitePolarBear on Wed 15 Mar 06, 17:13

What?

Bob W
Sharon Rocks

If Leoben is "good", do you think Kara will trust him? I don't, unless she is desperate (Anders).

I read somewhere that the incision in Kara's abdomen from the farm would come into play in the season finale and be a major plot device in season 3. Perhaps that was why Leoben was looking for Kara. Could there be little cylon Kara clones somewhere that Leoben wants to make her aware of?

This post has been edited by whiterose on Thu 16 Mar 06, 1:59

Kara was pretty nasty to him the last time they met. Maybe he wants to return the favor and stick her head in water and question her?

Bob,

What I meant was Zarek could be planning his own political fortune.

If Zarek wasn't on the President's staff then the next best place would be with teh Union. That looked like a big union meeting and he wasn't there either. Hmmmm, maybe he was on Cloud 9.

Leoben...being helpful? No way, he's the best Cylon for a reason, and it isn't because he's on our side.