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 Inside A Government Chemtrail Aircraft?
rob balsamo
Posted: Feb 6 2008, 01:21 PM


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This was just sent to my email. I dont have time now to look into it, but i will.
Sorry about the caps.. its a cut and paste.

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THE CIA FRONT...EVERGREEN AIR...located at PINAL AIRPARK-MARANA ARIZONA..a LONGTIME CIA/NSA SECRET FACILITY FOR MORE THAN 40 YEARS..is the PRIME MODIFICATION CENTER THAT MODIFIES A WIDE RANGE OF AIRCRAFT TYPES TO CONDUCT THE "COVERT" CHEMTRAIL SPRAY OPERATIONS THAT BEGAN OVER THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES IN NOVEMBER OF 1998...PRIOR TO THIS, SELECTED AREAS OF THE U.S. HAD CHEMTRAIL OPERATIONS TO TEST ALL THE TECHNOLOGY EMPLOYED IN THESE CHEMTRAIL SPRAY OPERATIONS AND TO DETERMINE THE OPERATING PARAMENTERS RELATED TO AIRCRAFT PERFORMANCE ENVELOPES AND OPTIMUM ATMOSPHERIC CONDITONS...ONCE THIS WAS ACCOMPLISHED....THE NATIONWIDE PROGRAM BEGAN AND IS BEING CONDUCTED UNDER MORE THAN ONE PROGRAM CODE NAME...THE 2 PROGRAM CODE NAMES MOST OFTEN DISCUSSED ARE "OPERATION CLOVER LEAF" and "OPERATION RAINDANCE"....WITHIN MONTHS OF THE OPERATION OVER THE UNITED STATES BEGINNING...CHEMTRAIL SPRAY OPERATIONS BEGAN OVER WIDE PARTS OF DOZENS OF COUNTRIES WITH THE MOST NOTABLE EXCEPTION BEING CHINA.....

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Now, i know Evergreen does Firefighting with their new 757 Tanker...
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But i dont think those little keg containers hold the firefighting liquid.

Evergreen is also well known as having done work for the CIA.

We also know weather modification is fact....
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http://weathermod.com

Whether or not it this equipment is used for nefarious purpose, remains to be proven...

That top photo of those kegs is very interesting... i'll be looking into it more. Post here if anyone else finds out more...

Rob
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Posted: Feb 6 2008, 01:29 PM


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maybe it sprays beer on the peasants cheers.gif
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bill
Posted: Feb 6 2008, 02:34 PM


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When I was in Taiwan last November I saw no chemtrails at all

I was there for 10 days and while it was cloudy sometimes I never saw any chemtrials at all



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dMole
Posted: Feb 6 2008, 04:45 PM


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I found these photos a while back:

http://www.whale.to/b/splane1.html

Now I'm not sure how much most people know about Battelle and EG&G, but they are MAJORLY into bioweapons, chemical weapons, Nevada Test Site, as well as defense contracts.

Here are some interesting links too:
[probably one of the better researched pages- has download link for "Aerosol Crimes"]
http://www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm

[an apparently unmarked white 4-engine jet in CA]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xE4Mo1xX9Q&feature=related

[why only one of two planes leaving trails?- I've seen this phenomena myself firsthand several times]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L7ufdwnHxY&feature=related

[video in German with English subtitles about German military chemtrails]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaPqCMIuEk4&feature=related

[mainstream news clip]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C455lMfHfb4&feature=related

FWIW, I have noticed that I very rarely/never see chemtrails over large military base "no fly zones." AIDS and warfare are probably doing a reasonable job of "population control" in the third world countries- toxic aerosols not needed.
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rob balsamo
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From Ted Twietmeyer
2-7-8
Jeff - This is not what the picture shows.

What you are looking at is an ordinary commercial aircraft configured for flight certification. I know this, becaue my past work included designing the control processor for a special switching system for Boeing Seattle flight by a company called ITI, inc. This system was used for routing analog downlink data from aircraft in the flight test room where FAA inspectors worked. In past essays you have read me rant about V1.0 software no longer being a standard or goal in software engineering. This switching system is one such system still running V1.0. This photo could very well be of a Boeing plane, based on my knowledge of how they perform flight testing.


Here is an explanation of what you see in this photo:


1. All the wiring you see which is reddish-orange is strictly used flight test wiring. According to Boeing back in 1985, there were (at the time) about 9 miles of such wiring on EVERY aircraft. This wiring extends down to the landing wheels as well, which the person who took this photo neglected to include. After flight test certification, ALL orange wire is removed, all the equipment you see is removed, wires to hundreds of strain sensors glued to the inside of the fuselage are cut and wall panels are installed.


2. The black and yellow safety tape on the floor indicates a step in the floor - it's where a mini-computer room floor begins under which numerous wires and cables are run. This too, is removed later.


3. The "kegs" you see in the photo are filled with WATER, not chemicals. Water is pumped from one bank of aluminum kegs to another to change the center of gravity.


4. The rack cabinets you see in the background control pumps for the keg water and monitor both keg water levels and every flight system on the aircraft. The data is converted to a serial data stream, and transmitted via a microwave downlink on the aircraft to the flight test center. A large tracking dish mounted on the roof of the large hanger at Boeing Field near street Gate 39 is used to receive this microwave signal. The plane flies in a big circle over the Pacific Northwest while the dish tracks the aircraft to receive aircraft test data.


5. Typically each plane to be tested is manned by a crew of about 8 in the cabin. The pilot is a test pilot who is an employee of Boeing. He will do whatever whatever maneuver the FAA inspectors tell him to do.


6. EVERY plane manufactured must be put through this test procedure to receive certification and a subsequent license.


Data from the microwave downlink from the aircraft under test enters a large computer room at Boeing field. There, FAA inspectors run through various flight tests and maneuvers while watching the various data to confirm the plane is functioning within design limits. Back in the 1980's, chart recorders plotted key aircraft parameters on paper. The recorder's paper output traveled down a table, and FAA inspectors wrote notes on it as needed. Each of the several inspectors had a push-to-talk headset to talk to the pilot at any time.


I have stood inside a new aircraft at the plant in Everett, WA back in the mid-80s, where Boeing aircraft were manufactured. Inside it looked almost identical to the one in this photo. At that time, the factory at Everett, WA was the largest building in the world with no internal supports, measuring 1/3 mile x 1/3 mile. Even a 767 inside looked small. This photo above is itself illegal, as Boeing forbids photography at their company unless specifically authorized. This is why you have not seen this image before.


An actual  flight test in the certification room on the ground is quite interesting to watch. You see the total weight of the entire aircraft, in excess of 200,000lbs. decreasing at about 10lbs per second as the fuel is burned. This data appears on CRT monitors as well as the settings of flaps, throttle, rudder, etc... The switching system I was responsible for had 100 signal inputs from the aircraft and could switch signals to any of 120 instruments, including two Honeywell data recorders. The system is a redundant switching system, which was fault tolerant in every way.


DISCLAIMER

I do not post this to imply that there are no chemtrails. In fact, I acknowledge these DO exist. My goal is to simply stay with the facts and not lead people astray, or permit others to think that a seriously mis-interpreted photo like this is something it isn't. Since chemtrail sprayers are among the blackest of the black projects, no one will risk being shot just to take a photo of the inside of one.

Ted Twietmeyer
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www.data4science.net
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dMole
Posted: Feb 7 2008, 11:03 PM


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Here's the US Navy's 1974-1975 patent for "Powder Contrail Generation":

http://www.pat2pdf.org/patents/pat3899144.pdf

EDIT: From Hughes Aircraft Company's 1990-1991 patent 5003186 for "Stratospheric Welsbach Seeding for Reduction of Global Warming":

http://www.pat2pdf.org/patents/pat5003186.pdf

Column 5, paragraph 1
"...Once the tiny particles have been dispersed into the atmosphere, the particles may remain in suspension for up to one year."

The metals and oxides listed here looked fairly consistent with those claimed in the other sources...

EDIT2: another mainstream news video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okB-489l6MI

And this disturbing "about" text:

"Finally, PUBLIC LAW 95-79 [P.L. 95-79] TITLE 50, CHAPTER 32, SECTION 1520 "CHEMICAL AND BIOLOGICAL WARFARE PROGRAM" "The use of human subjects will be allowed for the testing of chemical and biological agents by the U.S. Department of Defense, accounting to Congressional committees with respect to the experiments and studies." "The Secretary of Defense [may] conduct tests and experiments involving the use of chemical and biological [warfare] agents on civilian populations [within the United States]." -SOURCE- Public Law 95-79, Title VIII, Sec. 808, July 30, 1977, 91 Stat. 334. In U.S. Statutes-at-Large, Vol. 91, page 334, you will find Public Law 95-79. Public Law 97-375, title II, Sec. 203(a)(1), Dec. 21, 1982, 96 Stat. 1882. In U.S. Statutes-at-Large, Vol. 96, page 1882, you will find Public Law 97-375."

The above might have been repealed, but it was also listed on a "History of US Govt. Human Experimentation" at:

http://greyfalcon.us/restored/A%20SHORT%20...F%20THE%20U.htm

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beatles64
Posted: Feb 9 2008, 12:14 AM


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all i know is I live in New Hampshire, and I did not start noticing these(chemtrails) till closer and closer to our primary election time, they were without question the most frequent during this time period...i dont mean anything more by that than simply pointing out my observation....i still notice them from time to time, but not as frequent as back than
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There's a chemtrails show on Discovery Channel right now. So far it has been quite objective- I'm shocked.

The show also fingered military KC-135 tankers.

I've heard from an eyewitness on another board that MacDill AFB near Tampa is a likely culprit, so that part is consistent.

EDIT: it was "Best Evidence: Chemical Contrails" from 2002 as I recall. Of course, the USAF refused to provide samples of its fuels for independent testing. The "independent tests" basically just tested for aluminum in a 5-gallon sample of commercial Jet A from a Minnesota airport and didn't find much.

The show did admit to needles of aluminum chaff being dumped by the USAF.

Of course "Best Evidence" did not mention the 2 US Patents that I have linked above.
Also no mention of EPA's refusal to test the samples submitted for testing (see www.carnicom.com and "Aerosol Crimes"). While we're on the subject of EPA, Christine Todd Whitman did show up in my CFR research.

NASA Langley's Patrick Minnis was quick to spin the "wheel of debunking," regurgitating the same tired USAF "contrail" explanations used for over a decade. He also used considerable appeal to authority and the word "ridiculous."

The "conspiracy theorist" label was never used though that I noticed. The show itself presented both sides fairly objectively overall. I'm still surprised to see this subject matter somewhere as "MSM" as John S. Hendricks' Discovery Communications LLC of Silver Spring MD. Kudos to Discovery Channel for objectivity and open-minded investigation on this program, but they didn't dig very deep IMHO.


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Posted: Feb 13 2008, 09:49 PM


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it goes back some years when i observed them in the metro houston area.

over the last 3 years, i have not observed what i observed from 2000 - 2005.

but they were not contrails. once i observed a 737 on a sunday afternoon, at less than 1,000 ft flying down the I45 corridor making "smoke". that did not dissipate.

similarly, i watched other 737's making checkerboard "smoke" patterns over north harris county, montgomery county. and where contrails would normally dissipate, this "smoke" would only grow, turning a cloudless day into an overcast day.

the odd thing about the 737 "smoker" was that it was all white. with no tail number. i had my spotting scope, no camera sad to say.

you might find my reports on the carnicom site. someone responded. referring me to the special terminal at mccarran international[las vegas]. where many white, no tail number 737's conduct transport duties for the secret state.

how many unregistered aircraft do you think boeing has supplied to the secret state?

i know that during the ronnie raygun era, lockheed supplied c130's to the secret state without tail numbers for the "secret" war in central/south america[operation condor].

i would like to think that others on this board are knowledgeable of the quantities of unregistered aircraft operated by the usg.

in my opinion, it is a large number.


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QUOTE (dMole @ Feb 13 2008, 04:14 PM)
While we're on the subject of EPA, Christine Todd Whitman did show up in my CFR research. 

Aha! Her of 'its safe to return to work' fame after 9/11 in Manhattan - no surprise there then. Did she go back?

At leat Guileannie was on the street at the time of it happening - but having provided himself with a mask beforehand, and no doubt a few doses of preventative medicants.
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