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Posted by: Ds14 Apr 14 2007, 09:24 PM
Name: Hana Ouji
Element: Earth/Water
Type: Ninjutsu and Genjutsu
Rank: All
Special Items: Any plant samples of any size collected over time.
Description:
The Hana Ouji, or flower prince clan is a fairly new clan in Konohagakure. The founder was a missing-nin from Kusakgakure that was accepted into Kohoha. He married in Konoha, but was unable to give birth to a boy. His children married as well, and could not give birth to boys, either. Finally a boy was born and he was treated as a prince. From then on, one boy was chosen as the princes' successor and all other boys born were killed at birth except for several males chosen at random to bear children.
The clan has a bloodline doujutsu called the Kakigan that lets them turn, to some extent, into "plant people". Other than eye color, there is not much of a physical change, but they are able to do certain things, like gather energy from the sun, that only plants can do. The other jutsu use flowers offensively, defensively, and passive offensively.
[NOTE]Do not confuse "flower" justu with Wood jutsu.[NOTE]

Hana-Ouji: Defensive Stance

Kakigan Photosynthesis level 1
Type: Bloodline
Chakra: N/A
Description: Using a minimal amount of chakra, the user can use their eyes to gather sunlight and heal small wounds while standing stationary.

Hana Bunshin no jutsu
Type: Ninjutsu
Chakra: 5,000
Description: User makes a bunshin made of flowers. The bunshin absorbs water and grows much larger when exposed to it. It is therefore immune to suiton techniques.
~Can make one exact strength duplicate that turns into leaves upon being attacked for every 10,000 chakra
~Can make one non-attacking duplicate with same speed for every 5,000 chakra

Hana no Arashi
Type: Genjutsu
Chakra: 7500
Note(Kakigan must be on)
Description: The user looks into the eyes of the opponent and causes them to believe that flower petals are flying all around them, completely obscuring their vision.

Flower Shield
Type: Ninjutsu
Chakra: 5,000
Description: A handheld shield made from a flower. It can stop attacks of up 5k chakra.

Kakigan Photosynthesis Level 2
Type: Doujutsu
Chaka: 5,000 (Must have Kakigan Level 1 or 3 activated)
Description: Leaves sprout from any body part a user of this technique chooses to speed up the healing from photosynthesis by 10-20%. An example would be completely closing a wound made by a kunai that penetrated an inch through the skin in 3 posts.

Hana no Wana
Type: Genjutsu
Chakra: 7,000
Description: The user makes their opponent believe that they are being bound by long stemmed flowers and they are rendered immobile from the waist down.
- 3 post limit
- Power based on difference between attacker and defender's chakra
~For *roughly* every 2000 points the difference is greater/less, the attack lasts more one more/less post.

Transform into Petals Shunshin no Jutsu
Type: Ninjutsu
Chakra: 5,000
Description: A variation on shunshin no jutsu in which the Hana Ouji clan member turns into a shower of flower petals and transports themselves from one place to the other. In the event of an accident, the shinobi can reform their body from just a single petal. (Not usable in battle)

Obscure Vision With Petals no Jutsu
Type: Ninjutsu
Chakra: 15,000
Description: The user of this jutsu can create so many flower petals that it obscures their opponent’s vision unless they are able to blow the petals away.

Kakiheki no jutsu
Type: Ninjutsu
Chakra: 15,000
Description: The user makes a giant flower with wide petals and closes them around him/her to make a shield. Capable of blocking techniques of up to 25k chakra.

Cutting Petals and or Leaves no Jutsu
Type: Ninjutsu
Chakra: 20,000
Description: The user of this jutsu can make any flower petal or leaf sharp enough to cut through human skin. This will not make a particularly deep wound, but is capable of making many small cuts due to the amount of leaves and or petals in the air.

Ne
Type: Ninjutsu
Chakra: 20,000
Description: The user sucks moisture from the opponents body, palms flat as if their hands were roots. The effects of this technique are potentially fatal. It is usually used in conjunction with Hana no Wana because the opponent must not resist.
- Can severely weaken in 3 posts
- Can make a victim incapable of proper battle in 4 or 5 posts
- Can kill in 6 posts

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Hana-Ouji: Offensive Stance

Kakigan 2(or Kakigan- Offensive Style)
Type: Kekkei Genkai
Chakra: (At Least) 2,000
Description: Unlike the original Kakigan, this version of the Kakigan gives the user a yellow iris and pink pupil. It allows a user to do different techniques than the Defensive Stance Kakigan(Kakigan 1)
Unknown requirements to achieve.


Hana Henge no Jutsu
Type: Ninjutsu
Chakra: 500(plus knowledge and complete memorization of anatomy of the plant)
Description: User can turn into a plant they have memorized the physical structure of.

Spy Plant no Jutsu
Type: Ninjutsu
Chakra: 3,000
Description: A shinobi can grow a plant that they can see out of from long distances. Similar the the third eye jutsu of Hidden Sand.

Leaf Transport no Jutsu
Type: Ninjutsu
Chakra: 5,000
Description: A user can change any small leaf into a large one capable of keeping them aloft at great heights. (Gliding, not flying)

Roketto Gahou no Jutsu (Rocket Spore no Jutsu)
Type: Ninjutsu
Chakra: 10,000
The user of the technique creates a flower 5 - 10 feet in diameter that grows from the palm of their hand. Out of the center of that flower shoots any previously learned spore of the user's choice at high pressure, in great numbers, and at a high velocity. Enough to spread over wide areas or to launch a user into the air. Technique must be charged for one post in which the technique user must be stationary.

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Gogahou no Jutsu (Five spores no Jutsu)
Type: Ninjutsu to multiply the spores and taijutsu for the effect of the spores themselves.
Chakra: See Below
Description: Spores that originate from a small swab applied to the user's palm multipy and cause effects on opponents.

Spore 1: Hypnotic Spore - Puts an opponent within 3,000 chakra above and any amount below to sleep. They will be woken up; however, if they are struck in any way. (Not necessarily any sort of touch)
-Wears off in about an rpg time hour if the victim isn't woken up by a shock
- A resistance can be developed so that it can only be used twice effectively on the same person before the resistance goes away after a ten post waiting period.
Chakra: 10,000

Spore 2: Poisonous Spore- Causes nausea, vomiting, and muscle spasms/pain to anyone that breathes them in.
Chakra: 7,500

Spore 3: Rapidly Reproducing Spore- This spore's ideal habitat is inside of the human body. Although it is aerobic and cannot survive when soaked in water and can be killed by high temperatures, if they are inside of a shinobi, they will rapidly propagate and weigh down the victim. They will also make breathing hard, but not nearly impossible. If left untreated for too long, the spore may invade other tissues or brain and possibly kill the victim.
(To clarify, a killing temperature would be around 120 degrees fahrenheit, well above possible human body temperature.)
- 2 posts breathing trouble
- 4 posts weighed down
- 3 whole threads without treatment for body damage
Chakra: 15,000

Spore 4: Paralysis Spore- Causes a victim who is 5.000 chakra or less above the user to be immobile for one post. Anyone within 5,000 below for two posts. Anyone below 5,000 less will be immobile for 3 posts.
Chakra: 10,000

Spore 5: Love Spore- Same chakra limits as paralysis spore, but this spore causes the opponent to become attracted to the user of the technique. They "fall in love" with them for the duration of the effect and are hesitant to pursue them. As this is not truly a genjutsu because the effect of the spores it biological and uses no chakra, the effect lasts a relatively long time, around 6 posts. Over time; however, one develops a resilience to the spores. For example, the second time this technique is used, the effect lasts about 4 or 5 posts rather than 6.
Unlike Johnny Cage's low blow, this works on both sexes ;-)
Chakra: 5,000
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Pollen Bomb no Jutsu
Type: Ninjutsu
Chakra: 25,000 (2.5x the chakra req of the spore cannon sounds fair)
Description: A small grenade like ball of pollen. The explosion, caused by pressure due to rapid multiplication of spores in an airtight seed, is not very large and only spreads over about a five-foot radius. The spores are easily combustible due to large surface area.

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Botanical Animation
Type: Ninjutsu
Chakra: Gained with Kakigan 2
Description: Can control surrounding plant life. Including growing and shrinking them. They can manipulate woody plants but NOT trees, which are too thick to bend and too large to grow/shrink.
Manipulation includes: Movement and size. (She can grow a seed into a tree and vice versa in seconds flat, but can't make a tree out of thin air)
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Unlocked Hana Ouji

Kakigan Level 3 (Spiral Kakigan)
Type: Doujutsu
Chakra: N/A
Description: An eye with bands of pink and yellow twisted around a central point that swirl slowly, increasing speed when chakra is used for techniques. This eye is a combination of both Kakigan Level 1 and Level 2, allowing use of both offensive and defensive techniques along with some new additions.

Blood Sucking Fruit no Jutsu
Type: Ninjutsu
Chakra: 20,000
Description: A special fruit cultivated by the Hana Ouji clan. If its seeds are either ingested by or inserted into the body of a victim, a fruit can grow, sucking blood and organic matter from their body. It is still usable on a stronger opponent, but it would take a full thread without removal to disable an opponent. (Seeds must be prepared before the technique can be used)

Hover Leaf
Type: Ninjutsu
Chakra: 15,000(Must have Kakigan Level 3 activated)
Description: A more powerful form of the leaf transport jutsu. The shinobi can now hover a maximum of two and a half feet above the ground on a wide leaf and move relatively quickly through the air. The leaf must be thin in order to do this technique and can be destroyed.

Spore Hana Bunshin
Type: Ninjutsu
Chakra: 30,000
Description: A Hana Ouji shinobi makes a clone of themselves that upon being destroyed turns into a cloud of spores of a previously mentioned type. Any spores can be destroyed by Katon techniques, nullifying their effects but causing an explosion slightly bigger than the bunshin due to the large surface area of the massive amount of spores. (This works with sawdust in real life, so I'd assume...)
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Posted by: Ds14 Apr 14 2007, 09:27 PM
Okay, so these aren't the official jutsu names. I just wanted to wait until everything was fine before I went through naming all of them.

And on to topic 2, I also want to make a jutsu that is Hana Ouji bloodline, but specifically for Ayame and nobody else because of her position in the clan. It would be that vine jumper she always wears, but expanded and explained. There would be 3 levels for it, the 3rd being for rping purposes only and not really worth much in battle.

Posted by: Omega2042 Apr 16 2007, 08:13 AM
Oh boy...What to say about this chart...again. Oh I know! I find it funny that the plant charts changes with the seasons. Just wondering, but what version of this bloodline is this? Its getting to the point where I just wont even bother looking at it anymore as changing it a lot is GMing.

Once more I dont like Ne at all. That to me is the biggest GM on this chart. I just hate a death move that comes at 12K chakra. Oh wait sorry, I should say I hate it when you do that funky increase your size five times yet have no decrease to speed. Then you can suck all the water out of someone in a matter of seconds. Oh and since you want to change it again any and all jutsu on it are open game for editing.

As I am sure you have heard before, this chart has a lot of justu on it, 37 to be exact. I mean damn, what havent you covered? Got a defensive stance, then an offensive one, so got defense and offense covered. But wait! Now you can use both at the same time! Personally I would like to have some restriction on switching between each stance so which one you are in actually makes a difference. It would help you keep the 37 jutsu you want to have. I would say something like a min number of posts that you must stay in a stance before you may swtich. As for the third, it should have some negative effect so you would have a reason to use the pure ones still.

Next we come to what you said about a character only jutsu. Its called the third chart, use it! Thats what its there for, character only jutsu. Its not a chart that goes anywhere except on your character. No one else can have it, its your own chart.

Posted by: Ds14 Apr 16 2007, 10:00 PM
1. If certain techs were accepted before... twice, why would there be a problem with them?

2. I changed it because I realized it was basically useless.

3. Since when did the amount of jutsu matter?

4. I never said before that you couldn't use defensive stance techs while in offensive stance and vice versa. I just added that in here because I had been switching on and off. There can and will only be one Hana Ouji tech user and as a jounin, they should be able to use their bloodlines easily anyways.

5. I was asking because I thought a third chart was for combination jutsu or invented jutsu. This would be a clan jutsu, but a jutsu only my character could use.

Posted by: Omega2042 Apr 17 2007, 09:12 PM
There is a pattern forming around edits to this chart. That being you do it after you lose a fight. First you add the offensive part after the chuunin exam and now this. This is of course something that is seen in a very negative light.

If you feel the chart is this weak why dont you just completely redo it instead of editing it constantly? For reasons stated above I cant allow you to keep editing it.

Posted by: Ds14 Apr 17 2007, 10:16 PM
What do you mean by redo it? Remove everything old? This is redoing it.

The chuunin exam doesn't count because it was before the wipe. This is technically not even the same storyline. And it's not like I didn't make the NPC that beat my character anyways. It was planned out, holmes.

And to cut to the main point, what exactly does the rpg as a whole have to lose by me remaking this chart?

Posted by: Nirubi-chan Apr 18 2007, 01:48 AM
What is has to lose is a bit of dignity. What I'm seeing is that, every time you feel that your chart is insufficient, we have to come do this same moon dance, so that you can yet again rebuild the chart that you seem to have trouble applying to your character.

Now, making revisions to your technique chart is one thing, but you seem to be constantly dissatisfied with this chart to the point where you're constantly changing it like this. Couldn't you take some pride in what you have?

Disregarding the above completely.. Like I've told you before, this chart just seems to be you wanting to have a jutsu of every time for every possible situation. You've got medical jutsu, you've got a slew of ninjutsu, body modifying moves, defensive jutsu, status affecting moves, poisoning moves, Moves that out right kill in a small amount of turns, both normal and eye activated genjutsu. This chart has more than any other chart on the site. Way more. Nothing even comes close.

I'd rather fight someone with a mangekyou sharingan. This shit is ridiculous right here.

Posted by: Ds14 Apr 18 2007, 01:54 AM
QUOTE (Omega2042 @ Apr 16 2007, 02:13 AM)
Oh boy...What to say about this chart...again.  Oh I know!  I find it funny that the plant charts changes with the seasons.  Just wondering, but what version of this bloodline is this?

The second after the restart dry.gif

Posted by: Ds14 Apr 18 2007, 03:27 AM
Bleh. Chill out. Your point is taken, there are just certain things I'm very reluctant to remove. I'll fix stuff up and we can go over it more tomorrow. Thanks for what we did today, it was very helpful in an lovable assholey sort of way.

Posted by: Ds14 Apr 21 2007, 04:39 PM
Feedback, plx?

Posted by: Kintaro Apr 21 2007, 06:54 PM
Patience is a virtue... or something like that.

It hasn't even been a week, you can wait a bit longer. As it stands right now, I am the only one capable of reviewing this chart because the others have reasons not to... or something. Anyway, I've been busy lately but I should be able to look it over later with you if you are on AIM.

Posted by: Ds14 Apr 21 2007, 08:22 PM
Yeah, I don't care if I'm waiting, man... no rush. I just wanted some feedback to know if anyone was in the process of doing anything with it or if you were waiting for me to do something.

Posted by: Ds14 Apr 24 2007, 02:18 AM
Edited

Posted by: Omega2042 Apr 25 2007, 10:44 AM
Now, my only big problem with this now is I need to know the extent to which you can manipulate plantlife. Seeing as how with the third level of your bloodline you can treat your body as a plant, you might be able to be like that weird bone guy who's name I never bother to remember.

Posted by: Ds14 Apr 25 2007, 08:46 PM
Grow them, shrink them, bend them, move them. Any part of them. (I think that's it)

Posted by: Ds14 Apr 30 2007, 01:00 AM
::Hypnotism voice::

You want to accept this.
You want an active jounin in Konoha.
You love DS like a fat man loves cake.



Posted by: Omega2042 Apr 30 2007, 01:08 AM
Actually, I dont want to accept this. I dont want Konoha to have a jounin and I dont really like you.

My main reason for not liking this now is the whole turn your body into a plant thing. Its way too easy to abuse that with the being able to manipulate plants. Just turn your arms into vines then grab someone with one and impale them with the other. Or just make yourself giant and flatten them.

Posted by: Ds14 Apr 30 2007, 01:15 AM
That's a shame. I like me, though. So it's okay.

And I was very willing to remove a lot of things on the chart, but I can tell you that body into plants thing is not something that was one of those things. I nerfed it a lot by adding in that whole cooldown phase idea and wouldn't be completely averse to some more nerfing, but I definitely do not want to get rid of that.

Posted by: Ds14 Apr 30 2007, 02:23 AM
So, umm....?

Posted by: Omega2042 Apr 30 2007, 03:52 AM
What? I say I dont like something and you give me: It is staying no matter what, its a bit hard to do anything after that now isnt it?

Since this has been brought up, I feel I must ask the question on everyone's mind: Exactly how does a bloodline dealing with eyes somehow get turned into turning your body into plants?

Posted by: Ds14 Apr 30 2007, 04:15 AM
I said that I want it to stay and wouldn't mind making changes, not that it's staying no matter what.

And nothing can make your body parts turn into plants. It's called artistic license, dear.

Posted by: Omega2042 Apr 30 2007, 04:17 AM
So you want your bloodline to change suddenly to go along with your most recent idea, despite the fact it doesnt fit? Sorry, not going to happen.

Posted by: Ds14 Apr 30 2007, 04:25 AM
Alright. It lets her absorb sunlight and activate the magic plant cells that she can make in her body.

Or it changes her genetic makeup to that of a plants because the sunlight has just enough energy to change the form of her clan's DNA.

Or I could make something else up really quickly/

Or you could try not finding a time wasting and petty excuse for something I don't quite yet know.

Posted by: Ds14 May 1 2007, 05:19 AM
Before anyone complains... complains more about me editing my bloodline, I'd like to put it out there that it's technically not an edit because I semi-quit with one of my characters and set their chakra to zero and am going to rejoin. It just so happens that I hadn't gained any chakra from all the stuff I've done before and rejoining with a new chart ends up giving me the same amount of chakra. You could give the other jounin a chakra boost to compensate for it, but I don't think that'd really be worth it.

Dialogue is our friend, friends. Let us shake hands with it and embrace it. Possibly even kiss it. Dialogue loves me and I intend to love it to its fullest. Care to join in a three way, anyone that edits the tech charts?

(I would also like to announce that Omega is my favorite Admin. He's the most helpful and useful one. He also likes to look at things in different ways and see how he might not be right. What I love the most about him is his laid back attitude. He doesn't let anything ruffle his feathers. Someone get this guy an award. He's earned it)

Posted by: Omega2042 May 1 2007, 09:47 AM
It is an edit no matter how you try to justify it in your mind. I would like to point out that if you did indeed quit with one character than you are unable to RP with that character until they get approved again. As for the idea of giving away chakra to every other jounin because of something you did, who do you think you are? The whole board isnt going to get chakra because you want your jounin to be weaker than the rest. Stop thinking the rules somehow apply differently to you.

For someone who claims to want dialogue you certainly go about it in a strange way. The sarcasm at the end is just wonderful. Stop being passive agreesive and just say you dont like me.

You complain that I dont bother to look at an issue from another point of view. I would charge you do the same thing. A big concern on what is allowed and what isnt is what precident it would create. In this case it would be the editing of bloodlines.

The latest issue of the thid level of a doujutsu somehow changing the physical structure of someone opens up a whole realm of what can happen and not. For example if this was allowed without some reasoning behind it, I couldnt keep someone else from changing their bloodline to alter their physical form no matter what their original bloodline was.

You might say I am caring about details too much with this, but I will try to explain my reasons behind why this is important. Assuming the level 3 goes through and you turn into a plant, is it a permanent transformation, or willed? The reasons why this is very important is it would greatly affect how jutsu would work on you.

If you are always a plant, then I would assume your body would react to jutsu in a different way. As such water wouldnt be as effective, but fire would be more so. Ice jutsu would be very hard to fight against and so on. It would also raise the question of if genjutsu would work the same way or not. Finally we come to poison, would it work or not?

What I fail to understand is why you would want to edit this chart in the first place. It seems to have no real weakness. The recent addition just seems to be over the top in terms of what this bloodline does. I mean the defensive style alone is powerful, much less everything else.

Posted by: Fire Fist Ace May 1 2007, 03:26 PM
Well, since you so kindly asked, I took a look over your tech chart as well, and frankly, I agree with Omega. You're chart is broken, I mean, you have killing techs and debilitating techniques at low chakra levels, your "unlocked" level comes at a level a jounin can have immediately, and considering you insist on no one in the village knowing about the Hana Ouji clan, I find that impossible considering how lethal and damaging most of your techniques are. The Hokage knows about the Hyuuga clan and knows a great extent of Uchiha (exception of possibly Mangekyou Sharingan but only a few Uchiha actually knew about that). I don't see a need for an addition other than you wanted to do it before but didn't have the idea until now.

Also, lay off Omega, he's trying to help you by pointing out what he sees wrong, I see nothing wrong with his arguments and in fact agree with them.

Posted by: Ds14 May 1 2007, 10:36 PM
QUOTE (Fire Fist Ace @ May 1 2007, 09:26 AM)
Well, since you so kindly asked, I took a look over your tech chart as well, and frankly, I agree with Omega. You're chart is broken, I mean, you have killing techs and debilitating techniques at low chakra levels, your "unlocked" level comes at a level a jounin can have immediately, and considering you insist on no one in the village knowing about the Hana Ouji clan, I find that impossible considering how lethal and damaging most of your techniques are. The Hokage knows about the Hyuuga clan and knows a great extent of Uchiha (exception of possibly Mangekyou Sharingan but only a few Uchiha actually knew about that). I don't see a need for an addition other than you wanted to do it before but didn't have the idea until now.

Also, lay off Omega, he's trying to help you by pointing out what he sees wrong, I see nothing wrong with his arguments and in fact agree with them.

Thanks for reviewing my chart, I appreciate it.

And Omega needs to get off of my nuts. I have no problem with him really, just the way he acts. There's a way you go about talking to someone in order to keep them from being offended and if you don't know that by a certain age, it's pitiful.

Another point brought up was that I was editing a chart and not actually quitting with Ayame. I asked permission before I got my chakra set to zero and explained what I was going to do beforehand, I didn't just decide I would do it because I think I'm an admin or something. And is it really an edit? I'm basically rejoining with the same character and making a new chart. I just asked if I could make it so that my character's history wasn't erased when that happened.

The points you bring up are constructive and make sense. I don't mind fixing things and changing them. Ask anyone that's gone over a chart with me on AIM or otherwise. I've made huge edits to this chart and removed a lot of things I didn't mind removing and others that I wanted to keep, but was willing to compromise on. I don't mind removing more, but I want to talk about it, not be insulted and berated about it. It's not important enough to me to let someone talk stuff to me and get away with it.

Finally, I didn't say nobody knows about the clan or if I did write it somewhere, I can change that quickly. I just want it so that the majority of people don't know about what the attacks do or how they work. Of course the Hokage would know about the clan, I don't see why he wouldn't. But another member of the rp that would have had no connection with any clan members wouldn't have any way of really knowing. But since this rp is so freeform, there are always little loopholes.

Thanks again.

Posted by: Fire Fist Ace May 2 2007, 03:25 AM
Ah, well then it makes sense, as I was reading it, I was like, but there's killing jutsu in here. Heh, well, if you want to talk, throw me an IM at XFireFistAceX, I'll be glad to go over stuff with ya. (of course I'll have to not be getting killed by finals and the like ^^; )

Posted by: Ds14 May 2 2007, 03:52 AM
Yeah, i'll hit you up later.

Posted by: Ds14 May 7 2007, 12:12 AM
Anything else?

Posted by: Omega2042 May 7 2007, 12:50 AM
In case I missed it, the questions I asked about your ability were never answered. Namely this one: "Assuming the level 3 goes through and you turn into a plant, is it a permanent transformation, or willed?".

Posted by: Ds14 May 7 2007, 01:55 AM
Willed.

Posted by: Omega2042 May 7 2007, 11:29 AM
This may or may not be long depending on how early I get on a roll with things I think of, just advanced warning.

First I shall break down the chart.

Non-Combat Jutsu: Hana no Arashi, Transform into Petals Shunshin no Jutsu. Total: 2

Offensive: Cutting Petals and or Leaves no Jutsu, Roketto Gahou no Jutsu, Pollen Bomb no Jutsu. Total: 3

Defensive: Flower Shield, Kakiheki no jutsu. Total: 2

Disable/Distraction: Hana no Wana, Obscure Vision With Petals no Jutsu, Ne, Blood Sucking Fruit no Jutsu. Total: 4

Utility: Kakigan Photosynthesis level 1, Photosynthesis Leaves, Hana Bunshin no jutsu, Hana Henge no Jutsu, Spy Plant no Jutsu, Leaf Transport no Jutsu, Botanical Animation, Kakigan Level 3, Hover Leaf, Spore Hana Bunshin. Total: 10

Chart total: 21

So the chart has a bit of everything, but man its pretty clear which category it fall under. Now why is this important? Well, honestly I just did it for my own curiosity, but maybe this came as a surprise to you, no idea. Certainly helps understand what the growth of it should be and would help form battle strategies and such, but for thsi use, its just to categorize everything.

Anyway, I now want to cover the bloodline itself. Honestly, there isnt a clear definition of what it is. You say its a doujutsu and they can control plants. Nothing wrong with that at all, the problem comes in with the recent additions. The other question is about the jutsu in relation to the bloodline. Due to the fact it can be turned on and off, the question of does it have to be on to use jutsu come up. Some say it needs a certain one on, while others dont. In truth, the bloodline ability seems weak. It looks as if this is more of a chart for a clan that uses plant jutsu rather than a bloodline. I counted 6 jutsu that require the bloodline to be active to use, thats about 28% of the chart. Seems low for a bloodline ability.

To sum up that whole paragraph in a since sentence: Please clarify your bloodline ability. Now lets look at each justu.

Non-Combat:

I will start here first since I have very little to say on both of these.

Hana no Arashi: Hoenstly, this could be a lot better. I would assume that havinga doujutsu as your bloodline, you would be able to use this by looking at someone. I honestly dont see why this is a non-combat jutsu. Its fine how it is of course, but if you wished you could move this up to about 7,500 or so and make it a doujutsu/genjutsu thingy. Personally I would rather add another distraction jutsu, but its up to you.

Transform into Petals Shunshin no Jutsu: I have no idea why this costs as much chakra as it does. As far as I can see its just the clan's version of the normal Leaf one. I would just have it cost the same as the academy one.

Utility:

Next we shall cover the largest category.

Kakigan Photosynthesis level 1: I find it odd that there is only a level 1 to this. I cant remember the other versions of this chart, but did the others get taken out? Really, nothing wrong with it, but if you plan on not having more of these later, take out the Level 1.

Photosynthesis Leaves: Shouldnt this be the level 2 of the previous? Also, since this is a powerup for it, it needs to be further down the list. Now, it isnt that drastic of an improvement, so I would put it at about 5K or so. You know, the traditional level 2 spot.

Hana Bunshin no jutsu: As with all clones, there needs to be something that mentions its abilities to fight. Can it attack? Can it move? How fast is it? Those are the big three that need to be covered.

Hana Henge no Jutsu: Honestly, I have nothing to say for this that I havent already covered.

Spy Plant no Jutsu: 1K seems a bit low. Now I know its not that hard of a jutsu to do, but I would say 2-3K would work better for it. By that time a genin will have learned some basic chakra control techniques and would be able to hold this plant up. Before that I just dont know if they would have the control to make a third eye.

Leaf Transport no Jutsu: Same as the previous. Nothing wrong with the jutsu, just the cost needs to be increased. Advanced genin jutsu I would say, so about over 5K or so. You have to keep in mind what they would be learning with relation to the other jutsu on the chart when you make the level.

Botanical Animation: This is a bloodline, not a ninjutsu. Now, this is just lacking details basically. How many things you can control at once, the range of the size change, can is make the plants strong enough to cut or block? I would fear having to fight vine swords personally.

Kakigan Level 3: Back to the last thing I talked about. While the power of this is largely based on the answers to the previous jutsu, there is still a large question remining. That being, how does the change work? Does it affect the whole body or just a part you want? Does the user's appearence change? How fast can you switch between plant and human?

Hover Leaf: Just reading this jutsu makes me angry. Only reason being it reminds me of Kagura from Inuyasha, which makes me think of Inuyasha, which angers me. That being said, I dont think this should be a 20K jutsu. Certainly not a genin justu by far, but advanced chuunin? Dont think its that high. This is almost a jounin level justu for its cost, which is just too high for it.

Spore Hana Bunshin: Now, is it made of the spores, or is it the floor clone with spores in it? The main point being that if its the spores then it would be nice if you included how to kill each type of spore, or I should say what they are weak to. Like if the Rapid Spore got hit by a Katon attack, I would guess they would spred into the air.

Defensive:

Seeing as how this chart is more or less completely unoffensive, defense is next.

Flower Shield: Reminds me of a buckler. Doesnt seem to be anything wrong with it, although you should keep in mind that not all 5K attacks would react to this the same way. Three good examples would be: Katon, Ice and of course the Strength chart. The first two being your natural foes, while the last is a large exception on a lot of things.

Kakiheki no jutsu: Pretty much the same thing as the above, only I would assume if you used it on someone else, you yourself would be open. Or not, I really dont know. It just seems like if you use your shield on someone else, it leaves you open. Just wondering about that.

Disable/Distraction:

This is where the real offense of this chart is.

Hana no Wana: Nothing wrong with it really. Maybe be a bit higher in cost depending on how the final version of this looks like, but for right now its fine.

Obscure Vision With Petals no Jutsu: What type of petals? And yes, that is a joke question. I would assume cherry blossoms, but who knows? Nothing wrong with it.

Ne: I think you already know what I think about this jutsu. So what else is there to say?

Blood Sucking Fruit no Jutsu: I would hope its a special seed that you have placed your chakra into. I dont want to seeL HE ATE A KIWI NOW I CAN KILL HIM, stuff going on. And yes, a kiwi.

Offensive:

Almost done!

Cutting Petals and or Leaves no Jutsu: This is just plain evil with the Obscure Vision With Petals jutsu. There really isnt anything wrong with this jutsu. I can think of plenty of evil things to do with it, but then it becomes more of a disable rather than an attack, which makes sense with this chart actually...

Rocket Spore: This certainly blurs the line between offense and disable doesnt it? While this justu itself is offensive, the end result of it is a disable. Why am I mentioning this? No idea really, I have started just typing whatever thought enters my head. Anyway, nothing really wrong with this jutsu.

Pollen Bomb no Jutsu: Here we are, last jutsu. Again nothing wrong with this one either, but its the same as the previous.

So thats it. A complete list of all the thoughts I have looking at each jutsu. As a whole I would say you tried a bit too hard to include as much stuff as possible onto the chart which as a whole made ti suffer. I say embrace the utility and disables. Then again I tend to find specialists stronger than being average in everything.

One last thing, the format of the chart needs work too. After being edited so many times its sort of become random and hard to go over. While I am not going to force you to change it, making it look pretty never hurts.

Posted by: Ds14 May 7 2007, 09:47 PM
Thanks a lot, Omega. I didn't enjoy being on bad terms with you, but you definitely just fixed/helped me figure out what to fix all my stuff.

I'll get to you probably before Thursday. I have AP Spanish tomorrow.

Thanks again.

Posted by: Ds14 May 7 2007, 11:16 PM
Everything you said is perfectly fine with me.

Ne, though. I can nerf it. I shouldn't have mentioned that it can kill someone in the description, it should just be implied. I mean, if you have water drained out of you, you can trust someone else to rp that correctly. And if it's a random, weak NPC then killing might be okay, imo.

Posted by: Ds14 May 12 2007, 04:11 AM
I edited the stuff you told me to. If you give that the okay, I'll rename the techs and fix the format.

Posted by: Omega2042 May 16 2007, 08:24 AM
There are still several things that you havent covered yet.

Kakigan Photosynthesis Level 2, needs a chakra amount.

Botanical Animation: This is a bloodline, not a ninjutsu. Now, this is just lacking details basically. How many things you can control at once, the range of the size change, can is make the plants strong enough to cut or block? I would fear having to fight vine swords personally.

Kakigan Level 3: Back to the last thing I talked about. While the power of this is largely based on the answers to the previous jutsu, there is still a large question remining. That being, how does the change work? Does it affect the whole body or just a part you want? Does the user's appearence change? How fast can you switch between plant and human?

Blood Sucking Fruit no Jutsu: I would hope its a special seed that you have placed your chakra into. I dont want to see: HE ATE A KIWI NOW I CAN KILL HIM, stuff going on. And yes, a kiwi.

Along with a detailed description of what the bloodline ability is and all that.

Posted by: Ds14 May 16 2007, 09:39 PM
Before I edit the techs I'll try to discuss it here.

If a plant gets to a certain thickness, it becomes a tree. She can't control trees. And with sharpening them, basically no. She can make a plant that's already pointy go fast enough to pierce flesh though (of course depending on how strong the plant is). It's GMable, I guess, but I don't plan on GMing and I would hope someone would call me out if I did.

Posted by: Ds14 May 21 2007, 11:06 PM
Edited

Posted by: Omega2042 May 23 2007, 09:20 PM
One thing this time. I need to know what you had in mind for the regeneration for the Kakigan Level 3.

Posted by: Ds14 May 24 2007, 02:44 PM
I think a higher level of regeneration would be hax and it doesn't fit the theme. A plant can regenerate, but not like Wolverine, y'know?

I like where it is now that it's not an in battle sort of thing and she can just fix little stuff.

Posted by: Omega2042 May 25 2007, 01:12 AM
What I really need are example of light wounds. If you remember someone had a regeneration power and healed a broken rib since it was a light injury to them.

Posted by: Ds14 May 25 2007, 10:15 PM
I think that would heal over a day if she sat in the sun for like 12 hours. But if it's like broken as in jutting out of the skin and spraying blood broken, then I'd rp that differently.

Posted by: Omega2042 May 25 2007, 11:45 PM
There is only one thing keeping this from being accepted now: How a doujutsu bloodline allows you to turn into a plant.

Posted by: Ds14 May 26 2007, 12:08 AM
The doujutsu is what activates the "plant-person"-ness. When she turns it on, she can control the plants and when it's off, she can't really do much.

Posted by: Omega2042 May 27 2007, 04:54 AM
Ok, here is the basic problem. Your bloodline changes your eyes and gives you control over plants and some genjutsu. Thats all fine, but now you want your eye activated bloodline to be able to turn any part of your body into a plant.

That just doesnt add up really. Apart from that, honestly what you are trying to add this time really isnt needed. Everyone after the level 3 bloodline you dont really need. Something you could possibly do would be to take off the turning yourself into a plant part and then either move the plant animation to level 3, or split that ability between the two in some way.

Posted by: Ds14 May 27 2007, 09:17 PM
I could say that it's not a doujutsu and that the eyes change as an effect from the bloodline's abilities activating.

Posted by: Ds14 May 31 2007, 09:30 PM
If the problem is something just being unnecessary, then is it really a problem? I got rid of a lot of stuff and I kept what I would feel uncomfortable removing.

I could have easily GM'ed with it before. A pointy plant can come out of the ground and go through someone from below. A Hyuuga can GM jyuuken by attacking the brain and one hit killing. A person that has mastered weapon accuracy can easily target a kunai at an unsuspecting victim and one hit them.

There are almost always going to be ways someone can GM with a chart, it's just up to them not to do it and up to the mods to punish them for doing it if they do.

Posted by: Nirubi-chan Jun 1 2007, 01:53 AM
Problems still go back to. If you have this chart, there's sooooooooooooooo much shit on it to where you wouldn't need a secondary chart. Also I don't like the turning into a plant thing.. mainly because it's based off nothing, and is just dumb as far as I see it. Nobody's bloodline just turned them into something completely different. That's just plain not getting in. End of Story. No arguing, just the sound of a fierce, vibrant, No.

Posted by: Ds14 Jun 1 2007, 04:29 AM
QUOTE (Nirubi-chan @ May 31 2007, 07:53 PM)
Nobody's bloodline just turned them into something completely different.

Kiba can turn into a dog and stay that way for fighting.
What would be a possible problem with it, though? It's not like she would be impervious to damage or anything.

And if that absolutely won't work, then could I have her be able to grow plants from her body?

Posted by: Ds14 Jun 1 2007, 05:23 AM
Edited

FAB really really really really really sucks and has no friends and is a poopyface

Posted by: Omega2042 Jun 2 2007, 03:23 AM
ACCEPTED

Posted by: Ds14 Jun 4 2007, 05:03 AM
Okay, now I'm going to change the names for the jutsu.

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