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Posted by: Ds14 Apr 21 2006, 12:31 AM
Well start off easy for lesson one.

I'm tired of these n00bly characters. Come on, guys! Stop sucking >.<
So here we go, we can make it so even the twelve year olds on here can understand.

1. You are not Sasuke Uchiha.
2. You are not Son Goku.

Doing well so far? Is it too much to handle? You can do it!

3. You can not do uber jutsu from the start.
4. Your character can only be a child prodigy if you explain it well... and rp it well. If you have a good enough background, I'm sure a 14 year old jounin would be accepted.

Very good. Now that you've read that and your head hasn't exploded from shock, you're ready to make a character.

(I'll find some bad exmaples later tonight, hwk)

Now, your character's biography and companion. Companion first.

8. You do not always get a wolf, falcon, or something cool like that. Try to be original.
9. Just repeating be original

Now, the biography. This is where the n00bage usually explodes. I'll show you an example of a common entry and then show what's wrong.

Shinigami Katana was 4 years old when his parents were being meen to him. He was sometimes really evil and he killed his parents. He was an orphan and he was rlly sad Then one day he took the chuunin exam and passed at age 7 and then another day he passed the jounin exam and he was 17. Then he joined ANBOO and decided to kill everyone in konoha one day and then become the hokage.
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Shinigami Katana(that can't possibly be someone's name.... try again) was 4 years old when his parents were being meen to him.(Spelling error, poor word choice) He was sometimes really evil and he killed his parents.(Totally random and very very unlikely) He was an orphan and he was rlly sad(no chatspeak when rping. and punctuation is your friend.) Then one day he took the chuunin exam and passed at age 7(pffffft) and then another day he passed the jounin exam and he was 17.(bad grammar and bad word choice) Then he joined ANBOO and decided to kill everyone in konoha one day and then become the hokage.(Bad spelling, random and sudden jump, and stupid goal.

1. Too many orphans. People have parents, man. They don't have to die to be interesting.
2.If you're going to kill someone, you will probably be killed before or after you do it.
3.The Chuunin exam isn't easy, why does everyone pass on their first attempt?
4.GRAMMAR. We speak english here, not engrish.
5. Make it at least 10 sentences.... please.
6. Do some research before you pull stuff out of your ass, mmkay?

That's all I can think of now. If you were incompetent before, then you're competent now. Please review and respond, no matter who you are.

Posted by: Fire Fist Ace Apr 21 2006, 12:34 AM
DS, I love you. Thank you for saying everything I wanted to say.

Posted by: Omega2042 Apr 21 2006, 12:52 AM
QUOTE
1. Too many orphans. People have parents, man. They don't have to die to be interesting.
2.If you're going to kill someone, you will probably be killed before or after you do it.
3.The Chuunin exam isn't easy, why does everyone pass on their first attempt?
4.GRAMMAR. We speak english here, not engrish.
5. Make it at least 10 sentences.... please.
6. Do some research before you pull stuff out of your ass, mmkay?


1) Yes, that is true. I dont know why but people dont like parents for some reason. Now that isnt to say you cant, but it shouldnt be as common as it is.

2) Yes, murder is a bad thing. Murdering someone would cause a reaction of some sort. Depending on what is going on though would depend on if you are killed or not.

3) Well you have to look at it really. I mean Chuunin are your normal standard ninja. Also if you look at the ages of each rank, it doesnt take too long to become a Chuunin really.

4) Not everyone here has English as their first language. So while they try to use the best grammer they can, not everyone here will be able to speak perfect grammer. Besides, if we really went over everyone's grammer no one would look good.

5) It is possible to say a lot in a little. Just like its possible to say little in a lot.

6) Would be nice, but for something it would require a nice bit of research. Then there is always the fact this is fantasy to a certain degree. I mean you can summon stuff, which really doesnt make any sense. As long as it isnt just really stupid, then its fine.

Besides this is the internet. Most people are idiots on the internet.

Posted by: Ds14 Apr 21 2006, 01:04 AM
It's possible to say a lot in a little, but for storytelling purposes it's not a good idea.

Posted by: Uchiha Mikyas Apr 26 2006, 11:31 PM
Well I'm not sure, but I'm guessing most of these were directed towards me.. But just in case I'll say this. For the last time, I'm not aiming for originality, being like "Sasuke," nor looking cool in general. I'm RPing just for fun, not to impress a bunch of people I don't personally know.

Oh and in case this wasn't targeted towards me, I agree with most of them, but you shouldn't flame people who just plain lack in creativity, to a certain extent. This is an RP, not an English class.

PS: I'm not saying that I myself lack in creativity... I just chose not to use it with my first character. My second character has living parents though... but they kind of don't like him.

Posted by: Omega2042 Apr 26 2006, 11:59 PM
I wasnt directing to anyone really. Its more of a general thing. Since it is a general thing I dont see it as a flame at all. Plus there is nothing wrong with making a cliche. If enough people dont make one then it isnt a cliche anymore.

Posted by: JauntyHat Apr 27 2006, 12:36 AM
me Fail EngLish? thats umpossible biggrin.gif

originallity i can do, it just takes awhile for it to get accepted dry.gif

Posted by: Ds14 May 19 2007, 07:10 PM
This Kami character is genius in my opinion. Very original.

Posted by: Kazuma May 19 2007, 08:26 PM
QUOTE (Ds14 @ May 19 2007, 03:10 PM)
This Kami character is genius in my opinion. Very original.

I agree. It was very well written.

Posted by: Ds14 Feb 5 2008, 05:37 AM
RP Post

Just a couple tips. I won't say I'm the best, but I do think I have some experience.

1. Make your post understandable. Instead of: "Jim dodged and made two bunshin clones and one jumped at him and then jim jumped at him while the other one threw kunai." try "Jim ducked under the flying rock and said, "Kage Bunshin no jutsu." Two clones appeared in a puff of smoke and stood beside Jim for a moment before dashing at his opponent. One lunged at him from the front and the other on [enemy's] right-hand side. While this happened, Jim stood back and tossed a kunai at [enemy's] chest."

This is the most important part of rping, in my opinion. The other person has to get what you're trying to do and how you're planning on do it. So here are a few things you should try to remember when describing an attack.
1. What kind of attack? Punch, Kick, Ninja tool, ninjutsu?
2. How strong is it? (See number 2)
3. What direction is it coming from? Front, back, side, other side?

Type, Force, Direction. Let that be engrained in your mind if nothing else.

2. The environment is very very very important. Especially in an rpg like this one. When you're fighting in a certain area, one person can get an advantage or both can creatively use the environment to fight. For example, a fight with no previously specified environment would look like this:
-Billy picked up a rock and threw it hard at Jimmy's face.
-Jimmy dove into the river quickly to dodge the attack.
((Billy OOC: I didn't know there was a river, you're gming.))
((Jimmy OOC: Sorry, I'll redo it.))
-Jimmy dove into the building behind him.
((Billy OOC: Wtf?))
((Jimmy OOC: Come on, man. Srsly? Fine, I'll redo it.))
-Jimmy took the rock head on and rubbed the wound on his head.

Do you see where the confusion comes from? If during a previous post, an environment had been described by an rper, there wouldn't be any problems like this. For example:
{Earlier} Jimmy looked around and breathed in the air of the open field. The nearby shallow stream was deep enough to rest his tired feet, but not nearly deep enough to swim in, much less submerge his whole body.

Now, if I were to RP the fight with Billy and Jimmy, I would not be able to hide behind trees, buildings, or in rivers. I may, however, pick up a rock from the stream and throw it. Or I may say that my opponent tried to run, but the open field gave me a clear view of them as they made their escape, and I could also say that I escaped by running into the surrounding forest. Creativity can take root here only after there's some sort of ground for it to "root" into.

3. Note your opponents chakra. Someone with higher chakra is going to have an advantage.

I was having an argument with FAB(one of the creators of Jiyuu) about Dragonball Z. I said that the power level system was retarded because Getting destroyed by Raditz when he had 200 PL and Raditz had like 750, but Gohan fought more or less evenly with Dabura who was about 32 Million compared to Gohan's 28 million or so. How is a 550 pl difference more than a 4 million pl difference. He answered that the 550 pl difference was a huge amount compared to the 200 PL, but the 4 million difference was barely anything compared to the 28 million. So in essence, the difference in power level was not subtraction based, but division.

Why is this relevant? Jiyuu's chakra system, which is basically the only thing that governs character strength and ability, does not put a very large gap between people of the same rank due to similar gains in chakra. Because of this:

A jounin with 25,000 could probably fight evenly with a jounin of up to 27,000 while a genin with 3,000 should be beaten with only slight difficulty by a genin with 5,500 chakra. To make an even more accurate comparison, a Jounin with 30,000 chakra is virtually the EXACT SAME as a jounin with 31,000 chakra. But a genin with 4,000 chakra should have a hard time fighting a genin with 5,000 chakra even though a win is most definitely possible with good rping.

Once you note your opponent's chakra, you should rp accordingly. Sure, Sasuke had his kick-ass Chidori at about, ehh... 12k chakra. He used it on Itachi who wasn't trying, so we can say about 40k chakra(he's still really strong). It would be reasonable for Itachi to rp catching Sasuke's Chidori and breaking his arm with a flick of his wrist, even if he is a failure at taijutsu. The chakra difference between a genin and a jounin is enormous and the only time a genin should ever hope to defeat a jounin is through some sort of handicap or a storyline NPC that has some sort of idiotic storyline flaw that they tend to have.


This brings me to number
4. Please take hits in your rp. If someone, even someone your strength or a little weaker rp'ed setting up a wire trap and has 20 kunai come at you, you're probably going to get hit, even if you're the fastest cowboy in the west. And when you get hit, you're probably not going to spring right back up.

This is especially important when dealing with enemies much stronger than you and npc's. If an NPC is knocking buildings down with no effort and the squeeze a genin's neck, don't expect the genin to be able to blow a big fireball in their face and get out, the genin should rp calling for help or look for a very good opening.

An example would be a genin training session my jounin Ayame was having. She did that one water prison jutsu that would even trap another jounin. But one of my Hyuuga genin, either Rakurai or Hinagi, hit her with Jyuuken through the side of the ball, making her chakra stop flowing to her arm and releasing them from the ball. Now it would be perfectly reasonable for me to say that I saw it coming and dodged quickly because of the chakra difference, but I made a concession because it was creative rping and it would realistically catch the character off guard. Stuff like that is okay, and I'd even encourage it.

5. This is the least important piece of info I'll give you guys. And it's Genjutsu. We don't really have a Genjutsu system here at Jiyuu and I think that's somewhat okay. I just have problems with Genin quickly snapping out of jounin Genjutsu with kai. The whole thing with Genjutsu is that no matter how unrealistic it is, you're unable to realize it's not real and you feel like it's real. You wouldn't know to kai out of it unless something happened to make you notice that something funny was going on.

I think a smart example was Kanki-chan's character Wasumi getting out of an unnamed shinobi's genjutsu by biting her lip to make her focus on the real world. That would work, but if she tried it again, it probably wouldn't fly by that npc. And if someone else tried to imitate her move, it would probably be shot down, too.


Comments and Criticism on this? Lemme know.

-DS


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