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Should we use this new Budget System?
Yes [ 9 ]  [81.82%]
No [ 2 ]  [18.18%]
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Commoncold0
Posted on Jul 14 2009, 06:39 PM
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Hey everyone, I've got some more dangerous new ideas! tongue.gif


For a while now I've been wondering whether or not there's a better way to run the budget system, as the current one has several problems...
1) Areas such as defence and culture are alarmingly absent from the system.
2) The economy can jump from 60% to 69% without recieving any rise in tax income, but fall just 1% to 59% and suddenly the government faces a tax shortfall.
3) The current budget unit system is so basic that things that laws which should really cost different amounts cost the same.
4) The economy rating can be very easily maxed out by the government swamping the industry & business budget with extra units.
5) We have no idea how well the actual economy is doing (the economy rating is just a measure of public opinion).
6) If we go through a period of sudden growth or decline, it can be very confusing having to update the budget every few days.
7) The government has huge reserves but doesn't get interest payments on them.


Now problem 1 could very easily be resolved using the current system, but the others are trickier. Here's the new system that I suggest to fix these problems...

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Financial Units
First of all, budget units will be replaced with financial units. These both serve exactly the same purpose, but financial units are a lot smaller than budget units (1BU = approx. 100 FUs).


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Economic Reports
On a certain day of every month (the 1st, for example), the Speaker publishes in the news forum an economic report. This states the current size of the Ostentian economy (given in FUs) and how much it has risen or fallen in % terms. The size of the economy would be worked out using the following equation:

Current Economy Size = (100+d)/100*Previous Economy Size

Where d = current economy rating - economy rating at time of last economic report.

For simplicity's sake, the figure will be rounded to the nearest whole number.

This economy size will then be used in all budget equations until the next economic report. The report would also contain figures for the current national debt/savings and the amount the government will need to pay/recieve as a result. See below.


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New Tax System
Under the new tax system, the BTR will represent the % of the economy taken in taxation by the national government. So for example, if the BTR was at 35%, the government would recieve 35% of the total number of FUs that the economy currently has.


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New Spending System
Like the old system, each department would have a (brackets figure) representing required spending for that department. This would be known as the 100% spending level. However, government would now have the option to set spending for that department at anywhere between 70% and 130% (for simplicity's sake, it could be kept at intervals of 10). Obviously, funding at above the spending level would make things better while funding below the spending level would make things worse and give the admin an excuse to cause crises. For example, part of the budget could look like this:

Health (100% - 800 units) - 110% - 880 units

If a government increased funding above 130%, there would be no effect and the money will be considered wasted. If a government decreased funding below 70% the entire government department would grind to a halt.

If a new act changed the number of units at 100%, then the number of units at whatever % the government had set would also change.


Also, to avoid transport budget style confusion, temporary spending would be put seperate from other spending areas, with information saying when they expire. Also, for simplicity's sake, they can only be at 100%.


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Balance of Payments and National Debt/Savings
Because the new system makes it unlikely that the budget will ever be perfectly balanced, the current loans/savings system would simplified, and would just be made up of whatever deficit or surplus there is left at the end of the budget.

Every time a new economic report is published, the deficit or surplus of the last budget will be added to the national debt/savings. This fugure will be published in the economic report, and the interest payments (at 5%, say) for the next economic period published at the same time.



Looking back over it, it is probably a more complex system if you attempt to fully understand it. I suspect however that all most chancellors would need to do is decide what % they are going to give each department and then check to make sure that they don't end up with a massive deficit or surplus. It would of course need further work to ensure a smooth transition from the current system (probably by translating current spending into FUs and then working backwards to calculate the current size of the economy).

Anyways, let me know what you think. Here are some examples of what the new system might look like...


QUOTE (Economic Report)
Current Economy: 21250 units

Change: +2%

National Savings/Debt: +16000 units

Change: +340 units

Interest Payments: +800 units.


QUOTE (Budget)


Income

Current Economy: 21250 units

Basic Tax Rate: 32%

Income From Taxation: 6800 units

Interest Payments (5%): 800 units

Total Income: 7600 units


Long Term Spending

Education (100% - 1300 units) - 110% - 1430 units

Police, Emergency Services & Justice (100% - 800 units) - 100% - 800 units

Health (100% - 1000 units) - 100% - 1000 units

Transport (100% - 600 units) - 80% - 480 units

Industry & Business (100% - 500 units) - 120% - 600 units

Environment (100% - 600 units) - 90% - 540 units

Welfare (100% - 600 units) - 100% - 600 units

Defence & Security (100% - 300 units) - 90% - 270 units

Culture - (100% - 200 units) - 70% - 140 units

Administration - (100% - 300 units) - 80% - 240 units

Total Long Term Spending: 7240 units

Short Term Spending

Aid to Nellapaland (end 11 March) - 120 units
National Railways Expansion (ends 14 April) - 300 units

Total Short Term Spending: 420 units


Balance of Budget

Total Income: 7600 units

Total Spending: 7660 units

Balance: -60 units

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plqx
Posted on Jul 14 2009, 09:35 PM
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The main restriction is that there is no possibility for long term economic growth - if the economy reached a sky-high rating then it would get so that the only possible way of increasing total government funding would be to increase taxation. Over time the number of budget units required is guaranteed to increase, and there is no system that can keep up with it.

This suggestion doesn't really help with this - indeed it hinders it by adding new areas to take up budget units. The only thing that helps is interest, but if you have very high government expenditure (which we inevitably head towards) then this is likely to be marginal anyway.

The other thing I dislike about the suggestion is that it limits the amount you can spend in an area. I don't see why a government should be forbidden from putting large amounts of investment in one area if they so desired, even if it were not absolutely necessary.

On the plus however, the increase in flexibility and improving the economy rating's effects are definately good.
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Commoncold0
Posted on Jul 14 2009, 09:50 PM
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QUOTE (plqx @ Jul 14 2009, 10:35 PM)
The other thing I dislike about the suggestion is that it limits the amount you can spend in an area. I don't see why a government should be forbidden from putting large amounts of investment in one area if they so desired, even if it were not absolutely necessary.

It only limits untargeted spending. Basicly, it means governments would have to say what the money was actually being specifically spent on, as opposed to just throwing money at the system.
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Cieran
Posted on Jul 14 2009, 09:56 PM
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If I were an economic libertarian I'd comment on the irony of taxes being measured in "FUs" tongue.gif...
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miniyoda008
Posted on Jul 14 2009, 10:16 PM
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You could include a basic increase in funding (say change the formula to 102+d/100) to make it more likely to cope with continual increases in spending.
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HRH King Zog II
Posted on Jul 15 2009, 09:29 AM
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How do brudgets fit into this system?
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Cieran
Posted on Jul 15 2009, 10:59 AM
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How did I know that that is what HRH would say tongue.gif ?...
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Commoncold0
Posted on Jul 15 2009, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE (Cieran @ Jul 15 2009, 11:59 AM)
How did I know that that is what HRH would say tongue.gif ?...

WITCHCRAFT!

*burns*

You may have a point about FUs though - lets just call them units. tongue.gif

Anyways, back to the budget system... the problem with Miniyoda008's equation is that it could allow the economy rating to slowly sink without there being any negative effects. tongue.gif


Perhaps instead you could make it so that the equation is (100+d+(x-30)/100) where x is the current economy rating. I'm aware though that it does make the system even more complicated... wacko.gif

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Pokemaniac John
Posted on Jul 15 2009, 03:38 PM
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So long as I don't have to understand the point of the equations, but only how to put them in a calculator, I'm happy. tongue.gif

This looks like a good system to me. I'll be happy to use it if it gets enough support.
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Pokemaniac John
Posted on Oct 31 2009, 01:37 PM
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Poll added.
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DynamoJax
Posted on Nov 1 2009, 12:12 AM
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I voted yes, because I realized that the current system punishes (and conversely rewards) greatly based on rating. Here, we have a system with the same effect occurs, except less drastically.
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Pokemaniac John
Posted on Nov 2 2009, 02:16 PM
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We have a huge majority in favour on this one, with the official result standing at 9-2. Arrangements will be made for this system to be implemented starting next term.
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