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Posted: Jun 28 2012, 07:33 PM

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In the summer of 1947 � 65 years ago this week � Seattle had UFO fever, sparked in part by a headline on the front page of the Seattle Post-Intelligencer.

Stories that started that summer have been told and retold, even here by the P-I staff. Several people are sure the sightings were nothing extraterrestrial. Some conspiracy theorists think there was a cover-up.

Either way, the tales are tailor made for Coast to Coast AM � and listeners to the late-night radio show covering UFOs are familiar with it.

On June 26, 1941, the P-I ran an Associated Press story from Pendleton, Ore., telling the story of pilot Kenneth Arnold seeing �nine bright, saucer-like objects flying at �incredible� speed at 10,000 feet altitude.�

Arnold, a U.S. Forest Service employee, reported seeing the discs weaving in and out of formation between Mount Rainier and Mount Adams. If one dipped, Arnold said, the others did, too.

�It seems impossible,� he told a reporter, �but there it is.�His account generated worldwide publicity and launched the flying-saucer frenzy � helped by the P-I headline, �Mystery Discs Hurtling in Sky.� Rewards were offered for evidence. A pastor said �flying saucers� signaled the end of the world. A man found bleeding from the head claimed he was hit by a flying disk.

That summer, a group of �witnesses� in Seattle met with P-I editors to argue that they could not all be crazy. The paper�s files filled with the names of hundreds of citizens reporting saucer incidents. Within two months, the P-I ran at least 50 separate stories on flying disks.

On July 4, 1947, a Lake City man claimed to have caught a photo of one.

Yeoman Frank Ryman, off duty from his job with Coast Guard public relations, said he saw a shiny disc flying across the Seattle skies. Ryman rushed into his home in Lake City, at that time outside the Seattle city limits in King County.

�I grabbed my Speed Graphic (press camera) and field glasses and ran back outside,� the 26-year-old told the P-I. �The disc came over about 9,000 or 10,000 feet. It was flashing brilliant silver in the sun.

The picture, he said, was taken while the disc was directly overhead. He used Super-XX film, a 1/50 shutter speed with a f 22 lens opening.

�There was no noise,� he said, adding he watched it with binoculars. �No sound of engines. And I am positive there were no wings or fins in sight. It definitely was not a plane.�

After spotting the object and talking with neighbors, Ryman called the Post-Intelligencer and rushed to the newspaper�s darkroom at Sixth Avenue and Wall Street.

�Enlarged many times the disc showed up clearly as a slightly blurred whitish object,� the newspaper�s account read.

That day, the P-I ran several reports of flying objects. In Twin Falls, Idaho, 35 flying discs were reported in a 20-minute period. A United Airlines pilot, Capt. E. Smith, also reported seeing three to five discs at 7,500 feet over Ontario, Ore., the night of July 4. A deputy sheriff also told the P-I he saw a flying disc that day on his trip north from the Clark County Courthouse.

�Yesterday alone, hundreds of people between San Diego and Seattle reported seeing the plate-like gleaming objects winging northward high in the sky at near supersonic speeds,� the P-I�s front page story read.

On June 21, 1947 � about two weeks before the Lake City incident � Harold Dahl was salvaging logs near the shore of Maury Island. Dahl said that at 2 p.m. he saw six doughnut-shaped aircraft, about 100 feet in diameter.

He said five of the metallic aircraft, which didn�t appear to have signs of propulsion, circled above one, which dropped to about 500 feet and spewed what he thought was 20 tons of metal and molten rock. Dahl reported to co-worker Fred Crisman that the falling debris injured his 15-year-old son, killed their dog and damaged the boat�s wheelhouse.

It was three days later when Arnold reported seeing the flying saucers.

The day after Dahl�s sighting, a man in a black suit arrived at his Tacoma home in a black 1947 Buick, Dahl said later. Books by UFO historians say the man in black threatened Dahl, saying that if he cared about his family, he�d never speak of the incident again.

He spoke of it at least one more time in July 1947, when he met with Arnold in a secret meeting in room 502 of Tacoma�s Winthrop Hotel. Arnold wrote about the meeting in his 1952 book, and said they were also joined by Smith, the United Airlines pilot, as well as Air Force Lt. Frank M. Brown and Capt. William L. Davidson.

Smith told The Idaho Statesman that Brown and Davidson were given six pieces of �metal or lava.� The chunks were loaded onto a B-25 bomber at McChord Field to be shipped to a California military base, according to the now-defunct Tacoma Times.

It was still dark in the early morning of Aug. 1, 1947, when a fire erupted in the left engine of the B-25. Longview police officers reported watching the B-25 circle over Longview and Kelso, leaving a streak of smoke behind the burning motor.

When attempts to extinguish the fire failed, two other crewmembers � Sgt. Elmer L. Taft and Tech. Sgt. Woodrow D. Matthews � parachuted to safety. Brown and Davidson, who some believe knew there were UFO parts on the plane, stayed with the bomber.

The B-25 crashed into the base of three alder trees. One initial newspaper report said Brown and Davidson�s mangled bodies were thrown clear.

On Aug. 3, 1947, an Associated Press report said the men died investigating flying saucers.

Some people who believe in UFOs are sure there was something suspicious about the crash. Many others say it was a simple tragedy, and newspapers at the time were caught up in the flying disc rumors.

Nearly 60 years later, in April 2007, a Kelso resident went to the crash site. In the north fork of Globe Creek a friend of the Kelso man found a black chunk slightly larger than a softball.

Later that month, University of Washington research engineer Bill Beaty analyzed the black fragment and said it was probably a meteor chunk or old lava �because it�s all full of little gas pockets, and gas pockets have crystals coating the inner walls.�

Beaty said he thought Dahl�s Maury Island UFO incident was just an exploding stony meteor, which would have explained what Dahl saw.

In 2007, Dahl�s daughter Louise Bakotich of Aberdeen told the P-I she didn�t know anything about her father�s UFO claim until 2003 when a man from Sacramento sent her research about it. Her brother, Charles Dahl, who was supposedly injured by the falling debris, didn�t confirm the injuries before his death.

The Army and Air Force have repeatedly denied that UFO fragments were on the B-25 flight, and the multiple flying saucer claims have been dismissed.

But some still believe, and the legend remains.

Les	Posted: Jun 29 2012, 05:50 AM
I use a computer, therefore I am. Group: Admin Posts: 19,062 Member No.: 70 Joined: 8-March 09	Doesn't that refer to the term 'flying saucer', rather than the whole UFO phenomena?

frehley	Posted: Jun 29 2012, 05:43 PM
Jess's Dad Group: Admin Posts: 3,854 Member No.: 235 Joined: 31-August 11	All you have to do is imagine a "flying saucer" with a USAF badge ( and Stars & Stripes ) on it ... Thats the real story .. No extraterrestials ... just Top Gun Tom Cruise wannabees in their new toys The USAF denied the Stealth fighter for years .... and we know that's not real .. Oh Hang On ...

Les	Posted: Jun 30 2012, 06:22 AM
I use a computer, therefore I am. Group: Admin Posts: 19,062 Member No.: 70 Joined: 8-March 09	Oh yes. Government denials are so reliable.

Duck	Posted: Jun 30 2012, 08:05 AM
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,072 Member No.: 84 Joined: 11-June 09	Now now, lets not go blaming the Government, they're just doing what they are told to do by Science and the church and they are doing what they are told by the illuminati and the shadow world government led by the reptilian overlords.

Les	Posted: Jun 30 2012, 08:24 AM
I use a computer, therefore I am. Group: Admin Posts: 19,062 Member No.: 70 Joined: 8-March 09	Helpful, Duck. Thanks.

Duck	Posted: Jun 30 2012, 09:20 AM
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,072 Member No.: 84 Joined: 11-June 09	You are very welcome. Step through the looking glass if you dare http://www.davidicke.com/

Les	Posted: Jun 30 2012, 09:27 AM
I use a computer, therefore I am. Group: Admin Posts: 19,062 Member No.: 70 Joined: 8-March 09	Oh, tsk. I'm not particularly interested in that, but thanks.

Les	Posted: Jun 30 2012, 09:46 AM
I use a computer, therefore I am. Group: Admin Posts: 19,062 Member No.: 70 Joined: 8-March 09	Having said that, though, some of their forum discussions are interesting. They get a lot of sceptics on there.

Duck	Posted: Jun 30 2012, 09:58 AM
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,072 Member No.: 84 Joined: 11-June 09	See, you brush my posts aside then find all sorts of truths in them. My posts are like an onion, many layered and bound to make some cry.

Les	Posted: Jun 30 2012, 10:02 AM
I use a computer, therefore I am. Group: Admin Posts: 19,062 Member No.: 70 Joined: 8-March 09	I brushed David Icke aside. There's a difference.

Duck	Posted: Jun 30 2012, 11:22 AM
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,072 Member No.: 84 Joined: 11-June 09	You forgot the smiley

Les	Posted: Jun 30 2012, 11:52 AM
I use a computer, therefore I am. Group: Admin Posts: 19,062 Member No.: 70 Joined: 8-March 09

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