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| zombie444 |
Posted: May 19 2012, 03:04 PM
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Asking for more evidence.Requesting for a name to be repeated.
http://soundcloud.com/ghostie444/region177-1 |
| Les |
Posted: May 19 2012, 03:07 PM
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I use a computer, therefore I am. Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Member No.: 70 Joined: 8-March 09 |
Sounds like Dominic.
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| zombie444 |
Posted: May 19 2012, 03:14 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members1 Posts: 2,040 Member No.: 231 Joined: 15-July 11 |
Spot on
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| sherry |
Posted: May 19 2012, 03:20 PM
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sherry Group: Members Posts: 30,693 Member No.: 25 Joined: 2-June 08 |
Very clear!
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| zombie444 |
Posted: May 19 2012, 03:28 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members1 Posts: 2,040 Member No.: 231 Joined: 15-July 11 |
Thanks
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| Duck |
Posted: May 19 2012, 03:29 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,094 Member No.: 84 Joined: 11-June 09 |
Sounds more like ribbit or credit
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| Fells |
Posted: May 19 2012, 03:51 PM
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Member Group: Admin Posts: 1,781 Member No.: 248 Joined: 18-March 12 |
Why would it be surprising for a name to be discerned when the device scans radio stations?
I would be surprised if water running from a tap audibly gave a name - but not a radio station - especial as the the device can be scanning a single radio station for over a second. It would be unusual for names not to be discernible given the number of occasions when a name would be mentioned in a radio programme. What are you suggesting a name recorded means and what is your reasoning for it? |
| zombie444 |
Posted: May 19 2012, 04:17 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members1 Posts: 2,040 Member No.: 231 Joined: 15-July 11 |
Why do you think i ask for names to be repeated.FOR validation purposes
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| Fells |
Posted: May 19 2012, 04:24 PM
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Member Group: Admin Posts: 1,781 Member No.: 248 Joined: 18-March 12 |
For confirmation bias, you mean. Cherry-picking is not validation. how many times did it fail? Why is it unlikely for the same name to be repeated in conversations on a radio show?
Play the whole session - not just edited highlights. It would be more interesting if you asked more difficult questions - questions that would be unlikely to be answered in radio shows. Asking for names and then asking to repeat the same names is not impressive - names are mentioned and repeated on radio shows all the time. |
| zombie444 |
Posted: May 19 2012, 04:30 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members1 Posts: 2,040 Member No.: 231 Joined: 15-July 11 |
It hardly ever fails.
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| Fells |
Posted: May 19 2012, 04:33 PM
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You haven't demonstrated that.
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| zombie444 |
Posted: May 19 2012, 04:40 PM
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Have i not?
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| Fells |
Posted: May 19 2012, 04:47 PM
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Member Group: Admin Posts: 1,781 Member No.: 248 Joined: 18-March 12 |
No
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| zombie444 |
Posted: May 19 2012, 04:49 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members1 Posts: 2,040 Member No.: 231 Joined: 15-July 11 |
Well watch this space
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| Fells |
Posted: May 19 2012, 05:02 PM
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Member Group: Admin Posts: 1,781 Member No.: 248 Joined: 18-March 12 |
We've been watching for some time now.
Demonstrate your claim with proper controlled testing - which includes posting the full session, not edited slices and asking verifiable questions - not open questions or asking for names and places - questions with a single known answer. No saying words and asking to repeat etc. |
| Duck |
Posted: May 19 2012, 05:45 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,094 Member No.: 84 Joined: 11-June 09 |
Asking for a word also has the added problem of priming the listener. You told people to hear the word Dominic and those who wanted to did. Suggestion is a powerful tool.
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| Les |
Posted: May 19 2012, 05:52 PM
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I use a computer, therefore I am. Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Member No.: 70 Joined: 8-March 09 |
I didn't particularly want to ... I just did. I wasn't bothered either way, to be honest. |
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| zombie444 |
Posted: May 19 2012, 06:22 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members1 Posts: 2,040 Member No.: 231 Joined: 15-July 11 |
If i posted something that is not there, people wouldn't agree.
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| Duck |
Posted: May 19 2012, 06:40 PM
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No, they agree because you primed them. Every other time we have done this we get absolutely no hits what so ever on the target word when controls are in place. Every time you prime the listener people hear exactly what you want them to, coincidence? No.
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| Fells |
Posted: May 19 2012, 07:25 PM
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Member Group: Admin Posts: 1,781 Member No.: 248 Joined: 18-March 12 |
Doesn't that tell you something? |
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