Oiuja video clips, 26/4/12

Listen carefully at 05:55 too.and there is a laugh at 8:8 followed by whispers.
I counted 5 or 6 voices,including ''champion''

I have isolated the voices at 5:30,sounds like a female saying ''we like fire'' followed by a male saying,which sounds like ''we can hear you,can hear you''



http://soundcloud.com/ghostie444/dw-a1598


Same file,hiss removed and slowed down.


http://soundcloud.com/ghostie444/region171

screen shot of region171

Another from the video.


http://soundcloud.com/ghostie444/region172

Thanks zombie. The slowed down one was easier to hear but I'm still not sure what's being said. I have a ear problem at the moment but maybe others will get a better sound than I am.

Unfortunately we have to discount any voices/sounds in these clips (or even live) because they weren't controlled for (yes, I know, tedious blah blah blah). The sound was not isolated to Duck's location - many people had the opportunity to feed sound into the test either knowingly or unwittingly and there were no controls for electronic interference.

If you want to have sound as a test criterion then you need to make sure that no one outside the test location interferes with the results (either knowingly or unwittingly) - preferably by disabling their audio. You also need to control for any localised external interference - (stray carried sounds from people, animals etc either inside or outside - or any of the electronic interferences I keep asking if zombie has controlled for).

Got to agree there Fells, there are way too many opportunities for sound to feed into this when we are using an open mic (my mic was permanently open as I was narrating the events) Even hermetically sealing this room would not help so long as we have open mics from a variety of other sources. As I stated the room has double glazing but that does not stop voices carrying into the room from outside. I was sitting thinking about other possible sources when it struck me that the TV was on down stairs and while I can't hear it at all up here, there is an air vent the left hand side of the window I know is connected down to the living room so mics could be picking up sound that way.

All in all an interesting experiment even if it was one that only taxed our ability to think critically.

Question - designed to exercise your critical thinking then. Why did we get independent movement of the planchette the first two times, and none this time?

That is fair enough.At one point it occurred to me that maybe sounds from an electrical device was picked up from outside of duck's area.However i did hear alot of whispering which is harder to explain.

Good point.

I too thought I could hear lots of whispering on the beginning of the first recording Les sent in from last Thursday. But I have bad tinnitis at the moment, so I wasn't sure if it was that, but, yes, I did think I could hear it.

Interesting.

we didnt get it the first two times, we got it the first time, and the third time

we didnt get it the first two times, we got it the first time, and the third time

Yes, we did. First time we got movement, but it wasn't recorded. The second time we got movement and it was recorded. The third time we got no movement and the session was recorded.
So, that's movement the first and second time, but not the third.

I don't know.

I do know, however, that here were too many variables that were not controlled for - floorboards/joists with potential for movement (whether through atmospheric conditions causing expansion and pivot points or through being walked on - not necessarily in the room), different movement routes by Duck etc.

It is the reason why you should remove these variables prior to testing - doing so removes the potential for false positives.

That is fair enough.At one point it occurred to me that maybe sounds from an electrical device was picked up from outside of duck's area.However i did hear alot of whispering which is harder to explain.

Why is whispering hard to explain when people were watching with open mics - and in groups?

Duck did loads of leaping about to take care of the floorboard issue. Now, stop spoiling all my fun.

'loads of leaping about' does not constitute control!

I must say that had floorboard vibration of any description been the cause I would have expected it to have been noted this time more than the others given the amplification of vibration I did prior to the event. In the 5 minutes I covered all the areas I did in the previous experiments and anywhere else I thought might be relevant (which was anywhere with even a remote connection to the room and floor.

So, while I still believe there is an environmental explanation (pretty convinced it is related to the glass) I don't think it is floorboards of some form of vibration, not just from my tests but also because of the lack of any effect on the webcam perched on my monitor. Any vibration strong enough to affect the weighty planchette would have to vibrate the webcam which is hyper sensitive to any vibration that affects the table as people saw when I entered the room, the webcam juddered but the board and planchette remained fixed.

I'm still going with one of the cats moving the glass off camera when I was out of the room. Had I had the foresight to stick a penny on the glass the last twice, perhaps this would have all been solved already.

What the hell os going on??I didn't watch the experiment,were viewers communicating with duck? and why wasn't it mentioned earlier