COMMENTARY: BEING 'RELIGIOUS' IS NOT BEING SPIRITUAL. There are those who believe that being 'religious' is the same as being 'spiritual'. NO, they are NOT the same thing. This is a very important distinction to be made because being religious is not necessarily the same as being spiritual - especially when we come across in the media that religious suicide bombers blew up innocent men, women and children. Hurting other people can never be spiritual. Read carefully:

Being 'SPIRITUAL' has absolutely nothing to do with being religious or anything to do with any Church or Temple or Mosque or organized religious activities It has nothing to do with being atheist or agnostic or whether one is a medium or psychic. Being spiritual is all about expanding your consciousness and unselfishly helping others. Those who have near-death life reviews constantly say that even little things count: the encouraging word, listening with empathy. Even if you unselfishly observe the fifty-fifty rule in conversation - that too is being actively spiritual. Every time you do spiritual work, you increase your level of spirituality. On crossing over, that works hugely in your favor.

BEING 'RELIGIOUS' is directly linked with religious beliefs. If your religious beliefs are making you more spiritual - then you have the right religious beliefs. But going to Church, to the Temple, to the Mosque- actively attending or participating in religious rituals - and doing other activities with incense, singing hymns, religious services - these have nothing to do with really being 'spiritual'. Being in huge Cathedrals with stained-glass windows in or Churches or Mosques or Temples, obeying religious dogmas and theology may be 'religious' but not necessarily 'spiritual'. Trying to dominate others in ideas, in relationships, in conversation is NOT being spiritual. And blowing up innocent people in the market place because their religious beliefs are different to yours is definitely not being spiritual. Of course, a religious person can be 'spiritual' when he-she does spiritual service.

CONCLUSION - critical: Highly credible transmitted information tells us that every time we unselfishly help others, irrespective of their beliefs, gender and race, we will increase the vibrations of our etheric- spirit body (i.e. we become more spiritually evolved). Every time we do wrong things (e.g., wilfully hurting other people) we lower the vibrations of our etheric-spirit body. The accumulated level of vibrations of the etheric-spirit body will determine where we will end up - or down. The higher the vibrations, the much more 'heavenly' the conditions.

http://www.victorzammit.com/week9new/

Someone has religious issues...is Victor a lapsed catholic perhaps.


spir·i·tu·al (spr-ch-l)
adj.
1. Of, relating to, consisting of, or having the nature of spirit; not tangible or material. See Synonyms at immaterial.
2. Of, concerned with, or affecting the soul.
3. Of, from, or relating to God; deific.
4. Of or belonging to a church or religion; sacred.

You can take the religion out of spiritual but it would seem you can't take the spirit out of religion.

This one's a little broader. I think you can be spiritual without religion and, at the same time, I think there are people who 'go to church' who aren't particularly spiritual.

i agree with him (seriously, i cant believe im saying this).

i think that if there is a heaven and hell, religion wont have anything to do with it, as there are good and bad people in all religions, and in people who dont belong to a religion.

i think what really counts is the things you do, such as being nice to others, that gets you into heaven. cause beliefs mean nothing-some religious people arent good people, like terrorists, people who use god as an excuse to hate others, people who constantly preach at others about only they are right, and also how not all people who arent religious are bad-most arent evil and immoral because they dont have a holy book to guide them, but do good deeds because of their own conscience and empathy for others.

although im sure he said before, that you have to believe in the afterlife to go to heaven......but maybe he saw the light, lol.

Heaven and Hell are by definition religious constructs, how could they not have anything to do with it?

I thought Hell was something Religion taught us to make us behave ourselves ...

( or did I go to the wrong Sunday School )

You're just not spiritual (newagey) enough.

i dont really have words to explain it any better than what i just did.

although if the afterlife exists it doesnt mean religions have a basis in fact cause they all say different things so cant all be right, and what if they all arent right.

doesnt matter anyway cause i dont know whether there is a heaven or hell, nobody does so i dont know who is right or whether my wild guess about the afterlife is right.

If I was setting aside my scepticism and ignoring the current state of non evidence, I would say that any possibility of an afterlife would have to sit outside our Universe in a state as yet utterly unknown and conceptually so extraordinary as to be beyond human understanding. So, that given, it would explain why there is no evidence and why any attempt to discern said afterlife fails. Attempts to define or contact are futile and we would be better off concerning ourselves with this life and let the next take care of itself.

OK. We won't discuss it anymore then

Resistance is futile? Pah!
Agreed that an afterlife has to sit outside our Universe but if scientists had had that attitude in the past we'd still be worshiping the Sun God and looking at electricity as magic.

Say what?

Suppose it does exist and it does sit outside our universe, that it has to interact with our universe means that it has to abide by the laws of this universe. You can't escape the inescapable.

If only there was someone who actually could contact dead people and get hold of a dead scientist who could propose a mechanism for something that has to move from this universe to another - without interfering with the laws.

Except that there is a sun and movement of electrons to observe in the first place.

Most scientists don't waste much time speculating on things that have no observable or measurable effect - and rightly so. There are some that do, however, we're still waiting on their papers that theorise about mechanisms for things that have no measurable or observable affect though.

Hang on, wait! I'm getting something...yes...yes..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S37Py8vHDBU

No evidence for the afterlife .Do you live in a plastic bubble?

Perhaps the phrase should be "There is no good evidence for the afterlife".

There are plenty of inconsequential anecdotal accounts - few of which agree with each other.

Just what does this (bolded bit) actually mean? Can anybody tell me in non wishy-washy terms?

Vibrations? Etheric body?

Just what is this 'transmitted information' and what makes it credible? Anybody?

I think we're supposed to be made up of light waves, Fells. Whether that or not you will know that everything is vibrating - including us. When we go to spirit we vibrate on a much faster scale. But of course we won't be aware of it - as we aren't aware of oursleves vibrating now. The etheric body is our spirit body which sits inside our physical body.

I'm sure you already understood that.

I genuinely don't understand what this means, Sherry.