Do you think MH has killed off psychic programmes of its type?

I've lost all trust in the programmes because of how they portrayed and fooled us.

The same can be said for the Colin Fry, Derek Acorah slots - edited so much we can't know if we are getting a real picture.


It's so disappointing for me as a more 'believer' to not be able to trust what I'm watching. Why they can't be honest with us, I don't know. Well, I do - for figures initially. But in the long term I think serious watchers will keep watching even if an experiment has no result througout a whole programme. At least if and when something did happen we'd be more inclined to give it some real thought.

I only really watch Ghosthunters still, but i think they're believed to be not as genuine as MH either!

Hi Chester - good to see you. Hope you're keeping those legs polished Laughing man


Ahh, now Ghost Hunters, I've seen a few times way back. It was said to be the 'real' thing, and what MH should have been doing, but then little stories started coming out about them and it appears it's not so 'real' afterall :lol:

This is what I mean - it seems they've all added their own bits on, but it's being the cause of their demise from what I can see. Shame this has happened.

Unfortunatly, it all comes under the term 'entertainment'. Bums on seats as it were. If you can't pull in the crowds, then you are pulled off the air and, we have to remember, it's a business! But, I do think that they all start out with the right intensions; untill boredom takes over and the viewing figures drop. :)

Obviously you're right, Ron. I just wish there was some small area of the market who would carry out experiments for the right reasons, and not for the money and entertainment. Surely there's someone wholoves the subject enough, and who is rich enough not to have to reply on the money aspect.

I do agree that in the beginning it's done with the right intention though. Then they get carried away. Very naughty really :lol:

I think it's a phase, when it all settles down again, that just might happen. It's almost as if they (whoever 'they' are) have to get it out of their system. :)

The only show I watch now is the excellent "Ghost Hunters", but even this has had it's share of people crying "Fake". I personally have not yet seen anything dodgy going on. I used to see it at least 2 or 3 times an episode during the live shows of MH........

I think that once a show has been accused or at least suspected of faking something, then all get tarred with the same brush. It really is an easy cop-out, often thrown up by the naysayers. :) IMHO
By the way, I'm not defending these shows.

Now there's a good point here with you saying that, Ron. How do we know for sure that all these 'fake' accusations, the video clips involved, haven't been tampered with to make it look bad? Some strong critics who hate anything to do with paranormal could have done the damage. As has been said, once an utterence of something being fake is made, that's it. The name sticks.

My point exactly. :)

well evidence suggests otherwise its in the title at the begining, this programe is for entertainment purposess only and not to be taken seriously isnt that a hint anyway ghosthunters 2 of them was sacked for fakeing audio noises during the sessions that was live its all on u tube if u look same as mh and others as for fakeing it to look like its a fake some of the film like mh was filmed live but wasnt suppossed to be shown and u can clearly see and hear what is said no mistakes i just hope one day some real ghosthunters will do it justice and actualy do it for real then maybe we might just get somewhere

The entertainment comments are what the government has said has to be declared by the company or person conducting anything paranormal. Even with private readings mediums have to say something before they start - even though the genuine ones don't believe it to be entertainment and take it very seriously.

I wonder what would happen if the government demanded all religious leaders do this before a sermon etc :ph43r: It's all a belief system at the end of the day.

As for the programmes, you are most likely right. I can't trust anything paranormal on tv anymore. What's happened with MH nad the like have taken away any enjoyment I had in the subject on tv. Having said that, it's just as easy for someone to say they are faking and set them up to look like it. How do we really know who is telling the truth? But it doesn't really matter as the doubt has been put there for me.

The thing is, because there is no absolute proof that ghosts exist, nothing from a scientific point that is, it cannot be classed as a factual programme and therefore has to have some sort of disclaimer put out at the start. It is then down to where or rather, what slot the programme is put in, which can really only be under 'entertainment'. :)

Maybe MH should've read this article?

http://radfordbooks.com/top5mistakes.pdf

He he. :D It's all a bit pat though. What should we do? We're looking at unpredictable phenomena - that makes it tricky. Chaos theory has a lot to answer for. :rolleyes: :D

I had such high hopes when mh started.
The most thrilling or should I say shrilling thing that happened used to be Marcelle's screaming. (Series one, sacked then replaced by Cath)

The Dick Turpin lives did it for me, even I being a non driver knew it took more than 15 minutes to get from The Spaniard in Hampstead Heath to Epping Forrest.
But it was the fiasco of the 'locked off room' having girls dancing in front of the web camera, to dash outside, knock the floors over and then dance in the garden in front of the cameras there.
When people were emailing in Living was ignoring it, not one mention of it yet at least 15 people that I know off emailed during the live about it.
BTW they all passed the flowers off as being poltergeist activity!

It was then proven that the next location that they asked people to phone in and vote for had already been decided but they kept the money from the premium rate calls didn't they.....says it all.