This is my build for UWr control, can take up almost anything except Eldrazi ramp.. so hard to deal with the trio Legend..

//Lands
4 Glacial Fortress
5 Island
3 Celestial Colonnade
3 Plains
2 Mountain
3 Scalding Tarn
3 Arid Mesa
1 Halimar Dephts
1 Tectonic Edge


//Creatures
1 Sea Gate Oracle
3 Wall of Omen
2 Baneslayer Angel

//Spells
2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
1 Jace Beleren
2 Venser, The Sojourner
4 Mana Leak
4 Preordain
2 Stoic Rebuttal
4 Spreading Seas
2 Journey to Nowhere
3 Lightning Bolt
2 Day of Judgment
1 Volition Reins
2 Tumble Magnet
1 Into The Roil

//Sideboard:
1 Celestial Purge
1 Volition Reins
1 Gideon Jura
2 Pyroclasm
4 Flashfreeze
4 Negate
2 Sphinx of Jwar Isle

for side board it's still on test.. the sphinx may be out for a good replace...
any suggestion or critics is welcome...

Saya anjurkan untuk ganti deck infect aja buat lawan eldrazi ramp :wacko:

Bukan UW/x aja yg kesusahan
UX juga kesusahan

Solusi Nya adlh XXX.Lbh siippp dah!

UB>>>agro(RDW/infect)>>>Ramp>>>UB

pick your poison or try to break the format <_<

phew.... rasae kok podo karo jaman pas zendikar pertama keluar ngono.. sebelum onok jace MS.. deck e kabeh d dominasi JUND.. saiki dominasi eldrazi ramp...

pheww... :wacko:

Skg yang lumayan akeh juga WW Argentum..
buanter lho lek land 19 gae opal..

gak pernah pake UW sih Har... tapi harusnya masih bisa menang lawan eldrazi ramp...
jangan counter creaturenya... tapi counter cultivate nya...
bawa removal creature untuk ngatasi joraga + wall...
bawa mind control untuk titan...
tectonic edge untuk eldrazi temple...
theory nya sih gitu...hehehe....

format T2 skg sih aku lebih prefer 2 warna... apalagi kalau R nya hanya untuk bolt... gak worthed kayake... UW/UB is better...

@ cascade: kalo ww argentum sih g mslh, walau banter asal ada bolt, into the roil ma DoJ umtuk menghambat sih ga akan sbrp masalah.. Soalnya kalo hand habis pasti dah gampang controlnya.. Hehehe

@ erwin: ya emang rencananya begitu bro.. Lha masalah e sekali titan dateng itu petaka.. Karena +2 land, jadi uabot soroh.. Elf ama wall sih pasti masuk tar d bunuh.. Yang mengganggu dari primeval itu + 2 land itu.. Land qta pasti kalah jumlah.. Mau d tectonic qta juga hilang land, yg penting bgt buat cast n jaga counter, bayangkan itu masih d turn 5 ato 6.. Kalo d counter pas sial ya keluar trapnya.. Wew.. That's the worst scenario. Ya emang ada kemungkinan menang.. Tapi tuipis banget.. Dari 10 match cuman menang 3!! Opo mainku seng kleru yo.. Wkwkwkwkwk..

@Hari mlebuno spell pierce pak.... gae counter trape

@kweh: maune.. tapi kok mikir, uakeh tenan counter e.. wkwkwkwkwk.. lagi mikir piye supaya isa di side in venser lock.. cek lek metu combo ne menang.. wkakaakakakaka ngebuat alternate solution ngono bro.. lek spell pierce kan mek solusi smtr yang kalo dapetnya telat yo ga guna ngono... wkkwwkkwwk

btw deck e sebener e dah berubah dari yang dulu soalnya d tambah i venser n tumble magnet.. yang kalo keluar masih bisa dibilang ok untuk ngatasi emrakul dkk.. apalagi tumblenya 2 ngono n d bantu venser journey n Doj.. jadi imba.. wkwkkwkwwk tapi itu lek ga screw.. kaya 2 game terakhir yang land ku man 4.. wew... ga hoki blas... padahal ini deck dah d set supaya draw ok n presentase screwnya sedikit sekale... :fire: :fire: :fire:

masalahe semua kartu white yg ada skr itu nda berguna/kalah kelas sama black di metagame ini. Jadi yah wajar la lek akeh kalahe lwn deck2 Tier 1 skr <_<

ANALISA PER KARTU
Celestial Collonade: mana req. sangat banyak, dibandingkan tar pit yg unblockable. Di era jund collonade mungkin lebih bagus karena toughnessnya 4 (bisa block thrinax/bbe) + dpt bonus dr hierarch

Wall of Omen: Sama seperti collonade, kartu2 yg diincer sudah hilang semua. Titans terlalu besar, elf maen swarm, rdw cuman goblin guide yg bisa di block, sisanya punya evasion. Kartu ini skr udah jadi 1W draw 1 card sorcery.

BSA: Quote:"
- Frost Titan taps her down forever
- Primeval Titan fetches Mystifying Maze, which exiles her
- Abyssal Persecutor doesn’t die to her in combat (though it can never finisher her off).
- Wurmcoil Engine straight up beats her in combat.
- And anything in play when you have an Eldrazi Monument.
- Jace, TMS bounces her.
- All is Dust kills her.
- So does Ulamog.
- Fauna Shaman goes and gets something that will kill her.
- Even Trinket Mage comes with a built-in Baneslayer answer in the form of Brittle Effigy."

Journey: Kalo lawanmu maen eldrazi, dia cuman perlu cast ulamog. Lwn UB kartu mati. Elf not fast enough. Lwn rdw, kalah cepet atau ada kartu2 lain yg lebih efektif.

Day of Judgement: Kebanyakan deck menang pake 1-2 creature aja, spot removal yg lebih mana efisien jauh lebih bagus. Elf punya Ezuri, monument, venge.

Purge: Bagus, cuman targetnya terlalu dikit + gampang di play around.

Tumble Magnet: Icy manipulator mungkin boleh, tapi ini cuman tap creature, waste of slot.

Gideon+Venser: Ok, tapi kartu2 white lainnya sangat nda efisien sampe nda worth it maen white cuman buat splash 2 kartu ini.

kesimpulannya, maen UB + FROST TITAN (best blue creature).

hebat benar analisa si kweh ini........

salute.....salute......

Kasih Cendol Gan,to Kweh.

:hi: :hi: :hi:

@Kweh : yo emang sih white dah kehilangan uakeh dari PTE sama oblivion, tapi namane iki UW bro.. kan bukan putih tok seng di play.. ada kartu biru yang ngebantu stalling n disrupt hehehehe...

lagian analisismu tentang UB dgn frost titan UW yo iso le melbu frost titan.. iki lak duduk white wennie... wkwkwkkwkwkwkwk

Tumble magnet itu untuk tutupi kekurangan e DOJ yang katamu ndiri di play cuman pake 1-2 creature aja.. untuk stall dia sampe creature terpaksa 3 ato 4 or maybe the time is right to DOJ.. ngono bung..

untuk BSA aku si rada setuju soalnya beberapa kali di play berguna banget kalo lawan RDW ama WW tapi jelek lawan UB. kalo lawan Eldrazi masi 50/50 soalnya dari 3 match itu yang steal win justru BSA karena evasion n lifelink..

BTW match up UW d Surabaya lumayan kok bung, soalnya udah ane modif lawan deck2 aggro yg biasanya sih banyak d pake.. soale metane ra jelas jek an.. (kan d sini banyak yang andalin WW argentum, infect, RDW, ama trakir eldrazi ramp, UB iso d itung tangan karo UW.. jadi yaaaa... still nice to play lah wkwkwkwkwk) => asline males rubah-rubah warna karo tuku2 barang maneh... =)) =))

Deck teko forum luar.. yang technya lumayan broken menurut ane.. :hihi2:

Land: (26)
4 Celestial Colonnade
4 Glacial Fortress
4 Seachrome Coast
4 Tectonic Edge
2 Halimar Depths
4 Islands
4 Plains

Creatures: (8)
4 Wall of Omens
4 Mnemonic Wall

Planeswalkers: (6)
3 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
3 Venser, the Sojourner

Instants: (16)
4 Mana Leak
3 Stoic Rebuttal
2 Deprive
4 Silence
2 Condemn
1 Jace's Ingenuity

Sorceries: (2)
2 Day of Judgement

Enchantments: (2)
2 Journey To Nowhere

Sideboard: (15)
2 Volition Reins
3 Leyline of Sanctity
2 Flashfreeze
2 Baneslayer Angel
2 Revoke Existence
2 Luminarch Ascension
2 Mindbreak Trap

Cuman mau ane ambil silence locknya buat ngatasi eldrazi se.. =)) =)) dari pada bingung ama eldrazi turn 5/6 an mending di suruh mingkem selamanya sebelum emrakul metu.. xixixixixi :hihi2: :hihi2: :hihi2:

Deck UW yg barusan ini menange pake apa bro? MD mek ada jace 3 biji mbe collonade 4 biji :(

iy setuju lek frost titan isa dimasukno dgn leluasa ganteni BSA. Masalahe kartu2 white laine bner2 ga relevan, lebih keliatan ky kartu mati. Jadi ya saranku mending diganti ke black, lagian kartu2 black buat UB jauh lebih murah drpd kartu2 white itu semua kok (asal jgn ketipu ambe orang/toko ae yg jual harga ngawur :no: )

Masalahe tumble magnet yg paling utama itu terlalu lambat, yg nda sebanding sama sinergine ambe DoJ atau venser. Lawan U/x nda ada target creature kecuali titan, dimana perlu bayar 2 per turn artinya musuh punya mana advantage yg dibuat rebutan oleh deck control. lwn rdw turn 3 100% lebih bagus buka mana buat counter / remove creature sebelumnya. Lawan ramp sudah telat situasinya kalo ada creature besar yg keluar.

mari gitu jace-e kok mek titik? overbudget tah bos? :hihi:

Yak ampun Harr.. Kowe Frustasi lawan aku t? sampek maw cari berbagai cara lawan eldrazi Green?? wakakakkakakaka.... =)) =))

Guampang soro kok lawan eldrazi green iku, y kayak sing diomongi erwin wes, bener iku....

Deck-mu udah bagusss har, cuman kamu waktu main kurang optimal aja, masi ada keputusan2 yang kurang efektif, gitu aja kok, xixixiixixii.... B)

Makanya nek mo tanding,minumlah KUKU BIMA GINSENG "ROSO".
Don't Forget byk2 lah berdoa,semoga nek bertanding musuh2mu akeh Screw ato lbh parah lg Mules2&sakit perut.
Wkwkwkwk...

saya kan hanya mencoba menggalakkan diskusi deck di sini.. sekalian me review deck ane.. sapa tau bisa more than competitive gitu.. makanya ngebahas.. tapi rasa e kon bener sof.. akeh missplay aku.. wakakakakakakka sama side outnya salah be'e yo.. wkwkkwwkwk


go go go magic surabaya!!! :fire: :fire: :fire:

Wis diomongi... dari semua deck T2 di De'Touch kemarin... aku paling seneng deck mu Har... paling keren... :P
Timbang deck infect gak jelas....wkwkwkwk.... gak nyangka isa menang lwan sofian... wkwkwkwk..... :kabur:

//Lands
4 Glacial Fortress
1 Seachrome Coast
3 Celestial Colonnade
1 Sejiri Refuge
4 Plains
5 Island
1 Scalding Tarn
1 Arid Mesa
1 Halimar Dephts
3 Tectonic Edge
1 Terramorphic Expanse


//Creatures
2 Frost Titan
3 Wall of Omen
1 Baneslayer Angel

//Spells
2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
4 Mana Leak
3 Everflowing Chalice
1 Stoic Rebuttal
3 Spreading Seas
1 Regress
3 Journey to Nowhere
2 Day of Judgment
1 Condemn
1 Oust
1 Elspeth Tirel
1 Gideon Jura
2 Venser, The Sojourner
2 Tumble Magnet
1 Jace Beleren
1 Into The Roil

//Sideboard:
1 Celestial Purge
1 Volition Reins
1 Sun Titan
2 Spell pierce
4 Flashfreeze
2 Negate
3 Luminarch Ascension
1 Baneslayer Angel

Focusing on UW control!!!! :fire: :fire: :fire:

Yeee main goblin ae kon, kene JMS mu tak beli ne

bwakakakaakkakka... kenapa? mati kena goblin yo mas? wkwkwkwkkwwk

UWR Caw Blade

//Lands
2 Glacial Fortress
2 Island
3 Seachrome Coast
3 Celestial Colonnade
3 Plains
3 Mountain
3 Scalding Tarn
3 Arid Mesa
1 Halimar Dephts
2 Tectonic Edge

//Creatures
4 Squadron Hawk
3 Stoneforge Mystic
1 Inferno Titan

//Spells
2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
1 Venser, The Sojourner
2 Gideon Jura
2 Mana Leak
2 Spell Pierce
1 Stoic Rebuttal
4 Preordain
1 Sword of Body and Mind
1 Sword of Feast and Famine
2 Tumble Magnet
1 Slagstorm
1 Into The Roil
1 Journey to Nowhere
4 Lightning Bolt
2 Day of Judgment

//Sideboard:
2 Celestial Purge
1 Volition Reins
1 Mana Leak
2 Arc Trail
2 Baneslayer Angel
1 Negate
2 Divine Offering
1 Revoke Existence
1 Sun Titan
1 Jace Beleren
1 Emrakul, The Aeons Torn

report kemarin Di Goci

Game 1 lawan ade Yo (UGb) (2-0 win)
R1 - play first- T1 celestial collonade, ade play land preordain, T2 arid mesa, fetch merah go, ade play green pre lagi kalo ga salah, draw go until turn 4, ade turun jace TMS karena no land in hands, spell pierce, turn 5 coba lagi, but mana leak has waited.. turun stone forge, burung, n go crazy from there, finishing burung bawa feast famine..

R2 - T1 ade manland biru item, ane cellestial collonade, T2 ade kuar fetch verdant, preordain, ane kuar merah and mystic, fetch feast fam, T3 ade fetch lagi, preordain, ane play collonade go, T4 ade play land lagi go, EOT kuarin sword, play land, pasang, di respons doomblade, kuar burung, cari burung lagi, go.. ade cari jawaban cast jaceTMS, +2 library sendiri, (missplay or not I don't know, menghindari range bolt sama liat draw land 5, my turn pasang burung dengan pedang, pukul.. ade, untap land play jace beleren, trus cast mystic lagi cari sobam.. hand ade 3, dari situ ane sikat pake burung bawa 2 pedang.. game end..

Game 2 lawan Owen (ww Quest) (2-0 win)
R1 - ane play T1, play seachrome, preordain go, owen plains, go (nothing in hand?), play arid mesa, tap for mystic and go bait for sobam, turn 2 ga onok play opo2 maneh.. (WHAATT??) ya.. easy play.. wes kenek control karo jawaban akeh nang hand, akhire menang pake pedang ambe burung.. =p

R2 - ane draw, T1 he got quest, play memnite, ane turn 1 collonade, turn 2 (miss play arek e, kuar glint hawk tapi memnite ga pukul, yo wes) Quest 3, ane kuar arc trail bersih in board, T3, play land he out sky fisher, balikin land, Quest 4, ane play land, takut terjadi kegilaan kuarin tumble magnet, go, T4 ornithopter, quest for argentum pasang di kor, untung bisa ane tap.., ane play land kuarin mystic sama burung cari feast famine, sama burung2an, (sobam in hand), turn berikutnya he got brass squire out, tap kor argentum, my play, pasang feast famine, arctrail thopter 2-1 player, attack burung, down to 16, kuar burung sama sobamne, preordain... golek jawaban onok inferno karo slagstorm.. turn berikut sisa tumble magnet tap kor argentum, (hand e de'e kosong play land), ane play land, pasang nang burung maneh sobam e.. attack 6 down to 10, play burung kabeh wes.. hand sisa slagstorm karo 1 burung maneh.. de,e attack ancurin famine, block pake 1 burung, draw, baru dapet infernonya, rada lupa kronologisnya, yang pasti cast inferno tembak 3, nyawa dia tinggal 7 attack pake burung sobam ama 1 burung lagi, sisa 3 life, go, turn berikutnya dia attack hancurin inferno, trima 8 damage, tapi turn berikut e aku slagstorm 3 player.. game end..

Game 3 lawan Getty (monogreen infect) (2-0 Win)
iki game paleng cepet rasae, makane rada lupa kronologise =p, yang pasti kluar2 creature, aku kuar pedang sama burung, 2 pedang di bawa 1 burung and win the game.. infect creature awal2 ada 2 bolt d tangan n block with birdy hahahaha

Game 4 lawan baji (GW quest) (0-1 Lose)
R1- ane play, T1 collonade, baji quest, T2 play land merah, mystic, and search for sofaf, baji play burung, trus buang kartu eot vengevine, ane play land terus go, burung baji mukul 1 damage, play manland ijo putih, sama fauna shaman, eot aq play swordnya, pukul, lupa lagi baji iki pro green, damage masuk 3, discard hawk, ane play hawk juga cari hawk, bolt fauna shaman, quest e wes 2, trus turn berikute de, e play hawk maneh karo shaman n memnite le ga salah, tapi vengevine e lali, trus terjadi baku hantam yang tak terelakkan tapi ane ga ada jawaban n kalah creature (quest e mbledos d bawai sobam sisan trus karo vengevine munyer2 ga karuan.. (efek sobamku sisan nge rol libraryne de'e.. lali aq)
R2- hand bolt 2, baji mau win cepet dengan buang vengevine, without playing land, ada bolt 2 vengevine mingkem, sampe akhire ada jura sama jace.. iso menang tapi time's up.. =(

Game 5 lawan sofian (GRU) (1-1 draw)
R1 - podo jaga2 counter, landq stuck d turn 4, sofian preordain terus golek land, aq ga dapet land blas.. matek mari ngono d control
R2 - sofian screw maneh.. ane play mystic entuk blade sobam, turn berikut sofian masi cari land, equip sobam, d respons bolt, play caw.. go, sofian play jace le ga salah, trus brainstorming, aku mancepin pedang hajar sofian, jace aku bolt, milling sofian, terus aku dewe play jace, brainstorming, turn berikut hajar maneh, sampe si sofian metu wurm coil, aku kuar tumble magnet, hajar2 sofian kuar avenger, library garek 4, kena mill 3 kali rasanya, (disini missplay, soale lupa ada bolt sama collonade yang harusnya isa menang turn itu), after combat, play gideon, land untap 2, sofian play wurmcoil, semua attack jura, next turn win.. haiz..

Game 6 lawan Benny (UWR caw blade - mirror) (2-1 win)
R1 - draw go sampe land ane stuck di 5, terus draw go (hand 2 DOJ, 2 Gideon, sisane mana leak karo, spellpierce) land e benny wes sa gedabruk 8 rasae.. trus ga sabar kuarno gideon, d counter (jelas sekali). dari situ jace benny kuar, stone forge.. dkk, sampe gideon kuar langsung next game, wes tau kalah pasti..

R2 - draw, go, perang pedang, sampe ane kuar sun titan, benny play preordain kuar bane slayer, posisi board benny, baneslayer basilik collar and he is tapped out, Land at 6, ane board ada pedang 7 land, sun titan, sama burung 1, masukin pedang ke titan, draw dapet voilition reins, ambil baneslayer benny, serang pake sun titan sama burung, balikin scalding tarn, benny play jace, brainstorming, mboh golek opo kok ra balekno baneslayer e.. trus darisana abang benny mulai terdesak, wes rodok lali urutane piye, akhire menang karo collonade pasangi pedang.. iki mestine epic battle.. wkwkwkwkwk

R3 - abang benny play, dia play plains, terus go, ane seachrome coast, play preordain, opening hand revoke existence, T2 benny play arid mesa search for mountain, play mystic, cari sofaf, ane play caw, cari 2 caw lagi, and go, benny play seachrome coast, preordain, ga dapet land!!!!, benny pasang pedang, pukul, aku block, my turn, play land mountain, revoke existence sofaf, and go, T4 benny ga ada land, play preordain, ga dapet land lagi, pas apes, stoneforge serang, aku respons bolt. my turn, play scalding, search biru, yakin ra onok opo2 play JTMS, +2 liak mystic d top deck benny, ya aku kasi aja.. dgn 3 land benny play mystic golek collar, my turn, play caw, search for another caw, play mystic, search for sofaf, play mountain, brainstorm jace balikin 2 hawk ke library, T6 benny dapet land arid mesa, pukul pake mystic, trus play sparkmage, eot bolt spark mage, sparkmage tembak hawk, my turn play sofaf, mancepin ke mystic, pukul benny, untap land, play jura bunuh mystic, jace brainstorm again, T7 benny dapet land (5 total), cast mystic maneh golek collar, sisa 2 land untap, (onok divine offering soale), my turn mancepin pedang, ke jura, jace angkat mystic benny, attack jura sama mystic, sofaf d divine offering, life benny tinggal 15, ga dapet land lagi si benny, kluarkan lagi mystic, terus ama pasang collar, turn ku, aku draw mana leak, brainstorm, memastikan kemenangan, jura sama collonade and mystic pukul, benny block jura, sisa 11, aku ada land 2 untapped, collonade 2, T9 benny ga dapet land maneh.. kluarno preodrdain 2 x, di susul sama sparkmage, yang jelas ane mana leak.. and abang benny offer a hand shake..

that's the report, kalo ada yang salah mohon maaf, bahasanya juga maaf lek kaco.. baru belajar buat report.. wakakkaakkaka

over all deck iki suangar pol =p kurang berasa sama venser, soalnya ga pernah keluar.. hahhahahahha tapi tumble magnet kerasa banget gunanya.. it's a good artifact
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