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kweh - September 4, 2010 08:25 PM (GMT)
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Vaires - September 5, 2010 12:08 AM (GMT)
keknya ability buat New Phyrexian ama Mirrodin Pure bakal dipisah yah?

Mirrodin Pure: Imprint, Metalcraft.

New Phyrexian: Infect, Proliferate.

bemontok - September 5, 2010 02:11 AM (GMT)
Beneran ini??

Boleh Tau Sumbernya dari mana?

Klo beneran, ultinya venser gila banget!

Kirito - September 5, 2010 02:20 AM (GMT)
Elspeth Tirel 3WW, mythic rare
planeswalker - elspeth
loyalty 4

+2 : gain 1 life for each creature you control
-2 : put 3 1/1 white soldier tokens into play
-5 : destroy all other permanent except lands and tokens
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Mox Opal 0 (mungkin dan haruse yo 0 lek mox), mythic rare
legendary Artifact

metalcraft : tap, add one mana of any color to your mana pool. play this ability if you control 3 or more artifacts
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Tempered Steel 1WW, Rare
Enchantment

Artifact creatures you control get +2/+2

kweh - September 5, 2010 06:02 AM (GMT)
legendary artifact...... ZZzzzzZzZzzz

VeY~ - September 5, 2010 09:04 AM (GMT)
Elspeth ultine -8 suw bukan -5...lek -5 lak yo broken garek proliferate wes dadi all is dust... :swt: :swt: :swt:

khim - September 5, 2010 10:50 AM (GMT)
bener -5 kok koen iki ngarang tekan endi maneh vey

kweh - September 5, 2010 10:59 AM (GMT)
update

VeY~ - September 5, 2010 11:17 AM (GMT)
loh iku -5 ato -8 seh ??? ga jelas angkae...broken tenan lak an lek -5 :punch: :punch: :punch: :punch:

kweh - September 5, 2010 11:26 AM (GMT)
5

Kirito - September 5, 2010 11:37 AM (GMT)
huvey pake kacamata kuda makane angka 5 ketoke digembor2no jadi 8 :hihi:

bemontok - September 5, 2010 01:47 PM (GMT)
Venser, the Sojourner 3WU

+2: Exile target permanent you own. Return it to the battlefield under your control at the beginning of the next end step.
-1: Creatures are unblockable this turn.
-8: You get an emblem with, "Whenever you cast a spell, exile target permanent

Loyalty : 3

Sumber : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/vie..._Sojourner?pg=1

Ini + Elspeth Tirel + Jace, TMS + Gideon Jura

Apakah aku melihat deck superbuddies akan semakin menggila di masa depan..? :swt:

Morphling - September 5, 2010 03:04 PM (GMT)
Vensernya keren jg ultimatenya .... :fire:

Air_Wind - September 6, 2010 01:46 AM (GMT)
kalau ada Venser (planeswalker) terus ada venser (creature), legend rule nya apply gak?
Venser (PW) nya keren pek... a must have card for my revaillark deck.

bemontok - September 6, 2010 02:11 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Air_Wind @ Sep 6 2010, 08:46 AM)
kalau ada Venser (planeswalker) terus ada venser (creature), legend rule nya apply gak?
Venser (PW) nya keren pek... a must have card for my revaillark deck.

Rulenya Legendary :

Kalo ada dua kartu Legendary dengan nama kartu yang sama, dua-duanya masuk ke graveyard.

Rulenya Planeswalker :

Kalo ada dua kartu dengan tipe planeswalker yang sama, dua-duanya masuk ke graveyard

Kesimpulan : Venser PW dan Venser creature boleh keluar barengan.

Semoga rulenya udah jelas :hihi:

Vaires - September 6, 2010 02:29 AM (GMT)
PW ama creature ga pernah bentrok,
Nicol Bolas yg dah duluan exist sebagai PW dan creature,
dua2nya bisa di battlefield bersamaan dan saling menyapa..


:hihi:


elspeth tirel klo dimasukin super buddies,
buddies yg lain mati klo dia pake ultimate..

klo cuman dipake buat gain life,
creature di super buddies dikit,

klo cuman buat bikin token,
yah ga terlalu gimana jg..

buat di super buddies masih bagusan elspeth v1.0 kayaknya..
sayang dah bakal rotate..

elspeth 2.0 lebih cocok buat dek token,
G/W token beatdown with this seems fun..

503 - September 6, 2010 04:56 AM (GMT)
Spoiler baru sedikit, tp udah keliatan bakalan ngawur bgt artifact, masak turn ke-2 bisa 6 damage, trus turn ke-3 bisa 19 damage.
Bener gak? Pake mox opal, creature 1/1 bayar 0, steel overseer, sama artifact creatures +2/+2.

Vaires - September 6, 2010 05:24 AM (GMT)
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gambar tirel yg lebih gede di text box,
biar jelas ultimatenya -5 doang bukan -8...
:hihi:

Tzu - September 6, 2010 06:36 AM (GMT)
Cacad sekali mbak Tirrel ini... Semakin lama semakin dewa.
Nanti Elspeth v3 pasti +2: Spectral Procession :))

Seneng kon Fer? Mono White FTW.
Dan tentu saja... UW bakalan masih mengedel2 :D

Air_Wind - September 7, 2010 01:17 AM (GMT)
will there be another artifact lands?
bakal lebih broken lagi deck artifactnya.....

will there be another shattering spree?
sigh...

Vaires - September 7, 2010 02:48 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (503 @ Sep 6 2010, 11:56 AM)
Spoiler baru sedikit, tp udah keliatan bakalan ngawur bgt artifact, masak turn ke-2 bisa 6 damage, trus turn ke-3 bisa 19 damage.
Bener gak? Pake mox opal, creature 1/1 bayar 0, steel overseer, sama artifact creatures +2/+2.

ini bisa dijelasin gimana bisa jadi turn 2 = 6 dmg dan turn 3 = 19 dmg??
bisa share strategy nya?

soalnya aku itung2 dptnya beda,

klo misal:
1st turn, land, mox opal, seekor memnite yg 1/1 gratisan, ga cukup buat drop steel overseer (mox opal blom metalcraft ga bisa activate mana ability)..

klo misal:
1st turn, land, mox opal, 2 ekor memnite yg 1/1 gratisan, tap mox opal+land buat steel overseer, end turn
2nd turn, land, drop tempered steel, tap overseer buat kasih counter ke dua ekor memnite, memnitenya jadi 4/4 2 ekor = 8 dmg..
next turn, asumsi ga ada drop yg lain, cuman tap overseer lagi,
jadi 10 dmg, total 18 dmg..

503 - September 7, 2010 03:22 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Vaires @ Sep 7 2010, 09:48 AM)
QUOTE (503 @ Sep 6 2010, 11:56 AM)
Spoiler baru sedikit, tp udah keliatan bakalan ngawur bgt artifact, masak turn ke-2 bisa 6 damage, trus turn ke-3 bisa 19 damage.
Bener gak? Pake mox opal, creature 1/1 bayar 0, steel overseer, sama artifact creatures +2/+2.

ini bisa dijelasin gimana bisa jadi turn 2 = 6 dmg dan turn 3 = 19 dmg??
bisa share strategy nya?

soalnya aku itung2 dptnya beda,

klo misal:
1st turn, land, mox opal, seekor memnite yg 1/1 gratisan, ga cukup buat drop steel overseer (mox opal blom metalcraft ga bisa activate mana ability)..

klo misal:
1st turn, land, mox opal, 2 ekor memnite yg 1/1 gratisan, tap mox opal+land buat steel overseer, end turn
2nd turn, land, drop tempered steel, tap overseer buat kasih counter ke dua ekor memnite, memnitenya jadi 4/4 2 ekor = 8 dmg..
next turn, asumsi ga ada drop yg lain, cuman tap overseer lagi,
jadi 10 dmg, total 18 dmg..

asumsi selain memnite ada ornithopter donk.
mungkin itungan damage-nya salah, soalnya cuma dibayangin.
tapi asumsi turn pertama udah ada 3 artifacts, jadi bisa langsung turun steer overseer di turn pertama.

kweh - September 7, 2010 03:38 AM (GMT)
best hand : plains, mox, steel overseer, tempered steel, 3 memnite

T1: all in kecuali tempered steel
T2: draw plains, tempered steel, steel overseer ability, all atk (4/4 x 3 = 12 dmg)
T3: win

steel overseer diganti ornithopter pun sek t3 win,

ok hand : 2 plains, mox, steel overseer, tempered steel, 2 memnite

T1: all in kecuali tempered steel + 1 plains
T2: play plains, tempered steel, steel overseer ability, all atk (4/4 x 2 = 8 dmg)
T3: win (overseer + 2x memnite = 12 dmg)

kalo dapete ornithopter nambah 1 turn

Atau

T1 : island, mox, memnite, ornithopter, chalice
T2 : island, 4cc spells (jace, LD spells, etc)

BeruangMadu - September 7, 2010 03:58 AM (GMT)
ya ya, tapi begitu opening hand ga best case = GG

dilawan 1 lightning bolt ae wes rusak kabeh hitungane deck e, metalcraft g jalan.

kweh - September 7, 2010 04:14 AM (GMT)
ga la iki mek goblog2an mbuat deck tok -,- lek pengen bikin deck ky ngene rasane mesti U-based, dadi iso pake counter2 ky unified will, mana leak, spell pierce. Mari gitu G buat 2nd color sbg finisher pake beastmaster ascension, garruk, etc.

503 - September 7, 2010 10:32 AM (GMT)
Poison counter buat apa ya?

kweh - September 7, 2010 11:32 AM (GMT)
10 poison counter = lose the game

Vaires - September 7, 2010 02:26 PM (GMT)
Poison counter buat nandain seorang player dah keracunan stadium berapa,
tapi keracunan Magic..

klo keracunan makanan, jgn ditandain pake counter,
bawa ke RS cepetan..

::hihi::

503 - September 8, 2010 05:27 AM (GMT)
Chimeric mass boleh bayar 0 ya? Trus kalo saya jadiin creature dan tap steel overseer, mati atau jadi 1/1?

kweh - September 8, 2010 06:36 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (503 @ Sep 8 2010, 12:27 PM)
Chimeric mass boleh bayar 0 ya? Trus kalo saya jadiin creature dan tap steel overseer, mati atau jadi 1/1?

begitu ability jadi creature e resolve, chimeric otomatis jadi 0/0, stelah itu lgs masuk GY sbg state-based-action. Ability steel overseer nda bakal sempat nambah +1/+1 counter ke dia.

503 - September 8, 2010 09:35 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (kweh @ Sep 8 2010, 01:36 PM)
QUOTE (503 @ Sep 8 2010, 12:27 PM)
Chimeric mass boleh bayar 0 ya? Trus kalo saya jadiin creature dan tap steel overseer, mati atau jadi 1/1?

begitu ability jadi creature e resolve, chimeric otomatis jadi 0/0, stelah itu lgs masuk GY sbg state-based-action. Ability steel overseer nda bakal sempat nambah +1/+1 counter ke dia.

Kalo ada tempered steel yg +2/+2 baru gak mati ya?

Tzu - September 8, 2010 02:39 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Vaires @ Sep 7 2010, 09:26 PM)
Poison counter buat nandain seorang player dah keracunan stadium berapa,
tapi keracunan Magic..

Wakakakaka bole juga lu coy. Cendol gan.

Vaires - September 8, 2010 04:23 PM (GMT)
tengkyu cendolnya..
:hihi:

ada reply2..
tak kira spoiler baru lg dibahas..

Dissipation Field*
2uu
Enchantment Rare
Whenever a permanent deals damage to you, return it to its owner's hand.
Illus. Matt Cavotta #32/249

Geth, Lord of the Vault
4bb
Legendary Creature - Zombie Mythic Rare
Intimidate

{X}{B}: Put target artifact or creature card with converted mana cost X from an opponent's graveyard onto the battlefield under your control tapped. Then that player puts the top X cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard.
Illus. Whit Brachna #64/249 5/5

Grand Architect
1uu
Creature - Vedalken Artificer Rare
Other blue creatures you control get +1/+1.

{U}: Target artifact creature you control becomes blue until end of turn.

Tap an untapped blue creature you control: Add 2 to your mana pool. Spend this mana only to cast artifact spells or activate abilities of artifacts.
Illus. Steven Belledin #33/249 1/3

Nicos - September 9, 2010 02:52 AM (GMT)
Smp hari ini,aku meliat blm ada kartu2 ScM yg bener2 Broken.
Kl analisa sy:

1. Mox Opal: Mkg utk sementara type2 bgs krn iso ngasilin mana tp masalahnya dia itu Legendary Art so in play cuman iso 1x.
Trus Mboh opo2 an iki Wizards,apa dah keabisan ide ato apa?
5 Mox alpha/beta : apik2 soro
Mox Diamond : apik cakk!!!
Chrome Mox : Lumayan
Nah iki Mox Opal generasi ke-4 dr sing namane Mox: krg bagus.
So,menurut ku nggak layak sih buat invest masa depan,jauh banget dgn ketiga kakak2 mrk.

2. Elspeth Tirel : Iki Elspeth Ver2,tp jek mending sing Ver1.Jauh banget Utility nya.

3. Venser : mkg ini iso rada apik titik,tp yah apa2 ttp bkn kartu yg broken.

So Kesimpulan aneh,for while blm ane temuin kartu2 yg menurutku yg broken&scr investasi Koleksi dpt pny prospek kedepan.

Yah,cukuplah pny buat gawe2 deck type2 iseng2 aja.

Vaires - September 9, 2010 03:25 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Nicos @ Sep 9 2010, 09:52 AM)
Smp hari ini,aku meliat blm ada kartu2 ScM yg bener2 Broken.
Kl analisa sy:

1. Mox Opal: Mkg utk sementara type2 bgs krn iso ngasilin mana tp masalahnya dia itu Legendary Art so in play cuman iso 1x.
Trus Mboh opo2 an iki Wizards,apa dah keabisan ide ato apa?
5 Mox alpha/beta : apik2 soro
Mox Diamond : apik cakk!!!
Chrome Mox : Lumayan
Nah iki Mox Opal generasi ke-4 dr sing namane Mox: krg bagus.
So,menurut ku nggak layak sih buat invest masa depan,jauh banget dgn ketiga kakak2 mrk.

2. Elspeth Tirel : Iki Elspeth Ver2,tp jek mending sing Ver1.Jauh banget Utility nya.

3. Venser : mkg ini iso rada apik titik,tp yah apa2 ttp bkn kartu yg broken.

So Kesimpulan aneh,for while blm ane temuin kartu2 yg menurutku yg broken&scr investasi Koleksi dpt pny prospek kedepan.

Yah,cukuplah pny buat gawe2 deck type2 iseng2 aja.

klo mox Opal dibikin dengan ability kek Mox dari ABU..
harganya 500 USD..
siapa yg maen MTG lagi?

orang2 cuman ngejarah toko2 MTG,
:punch:

trus pajang di ebay..
:hihi2:

venser okelah..
klo dari segitu utility,
guna..

+ ability : permanent yg etb kan byk yg bagus, combonya byk
- ability : mo buat agro ato finishing blow jg okelah..
ultimate : agak redundant sih, tapi buat format2 casual yg rada slow,
multiplayer, EDH, Archenemy, bisa buat control + lucu2an..

tirel,
well,
+ : buat prolong the game
- : nambah token sekali pake dpt 3, ga terlalu kepake sih, but.. why not?
ulti : di set yg byk artifact ribet, dikasih artifact sweeper, ganas kali..
semua ikut ke sweep, cuman dia sendiri, token2 ama land yg sisa..

dan ulti bisa dipake di turn kedua setelah dia turun..
(pas turun lgsg + sekali, next turn ulti..)
oke lah.. :sip:

masalahnya,
sedari awal harganya dah tinggi2...
ga bisa buat investasi soalnya kecuali buka dari booster,
ga bisa mark up..

klo buy to sell,
paling dpt margin dikit,
ga kek sleeper semacem vampire nocturnus, yg (agak) melambung pas set zendikar keluar..


bemontok - September 9, 2010 09:37 AM (GMT)
Planeswalker Merah yg Baru !!!

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Mantap Euy!!!
RDW bisa menjadi2 nih!!!!
Apakah SoM mendukung warna merah???
Bahkan, apakah deck full merah bisa keluarin Emrakul gara2 planeswalker satu ini??

Vaires - September 9, 2010 03:45 PM (GMT)
klo dah ultimate..
lgsg teriak Fist of the Hammer Star..
trus tap semua mountain sambil teriak..

atatatatatatatatatatata!
:punch: :punch: :punch:

kweh - September 10, 2010 05:54 PM (GMT)
koth and portal and is stupid2 good.....

Nicos - September 11, 2010 06:37 AM (GMT)
Ono masticore Kemplo!!!

-MwuRaFraga- - September 19, 2010 11:12 AM (GMT)
numpang tanya ability koth ni gan

itu untap jadi 4/4 red elemental creature bisa nyerang ta?

kan ga haste
:swt: :swt: :swt:




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