Title: [Quiz] Planeswalker
Description: pertanyaan berhadiah
tienming - May 15, 2008 02:46 PM (GMT)
nah gini2 kan uda banyak yg punya planeswalker(kecuali aku).
misalnya:
Tjan punya Jace dengan 3 loyality counter. Ian memainkan shock dengan target Tjan. Di play ada furnace of rath. Apa saja yang mungkin terjadi?
A. Shock deals 4 to Jace
B. Shock deals 2 to Jace
C. Shock deals 4 to Tjan
Jawaban boleh lebih dari 1.
Hadiah: 1 Slot player untuk maen Arkham horror sabtu ini 8pm May 15, 2008.
Silahkan Menghubungi kk Morphling atau Darkmot kalo mau ikut. (GRATIS!)
reki - May 15, 2008 02:50 PM (GMT)
tienming - May 15, 2008 02:57 PM (GMT)
Sorry lupa oraclenya :P
Shock
Instant
Shock deals 2 damage to target creature or player.
Jace Beleren
Planeswalker
+2: Each player draws a card.
-1: Target player draws a card.
-10: Target player puts the top twenty cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard.
3
Furnace of Rath
Enchantment
If a source would deal damage to a creature or player, it deals double that damage to that creature or player instead.
nameless - May 15, 2008 03:06 PM (GMT)
Kupo - May 15, 2008 03:40 PM (GMT)
Fritz - May 15, 2008 03:41 PM (GMT)
Setubuh... A & C ! :D
212.9g If noncombat damage would be dealt to a player by a source controlled by an opponent, that opponent may have that source deal that damage to a planeswalker the first player controls instead. This is a redirection effect (see rule 419.6c) and is subject to the normal rules for ordering replacement effects (see rule 419.9). The opponent chooses whether to redirect the damage as the redirection effect is applied.
gue_orang_ganteng - May 15, 2008 05:13 PM (GMT)
Kupo - May 15, 2008 05:35 PM (GMT)
Kalo bener jawabannya A & C, udah 5 orang yg dapet hadiah dari quiz ini... B)
tienming - May 15, 2008 05:44 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Kupo @ May 15 2008, 05:35 PM) |
| Kalo bener jawabannya A & C, udah 5 orang yg dapet hadiah dari quiz ini... B) |
semoga benar dan diharapkan bisa datang dan maen AH sabtu ini :P
ingat AH 8pm - selesai (sekitar 12an ga bisa kasih kepastian lo)
L 6160 L0 - May 16, 2008 03:12 PM (GMT)
jawabannya C lah.kan targetnya dah ditentuin.
Kupo - May 16, 2008 04:31 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (L 6160 L0 @ May 16 2008, 03:12 PM) |
| jawabannya C lah.kan targetnya dah ditentuin. |
Baik A maupun C targetnya sama...
Mana bisa Shock target PW?
L 6160 L0 - May 16, 2008 05:12 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Kupo @ May 16 2008, 11:31 PM) |
| QUOTE (L 6160 L0 @ May 16 2008, 03:12 PM) | | jawabannya C lah.kan targetnya dah ditentuin. |
Baik A maupun C targetnya sama... Mana bisa Shock target PW?
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disitu kan tulisannya shock narget tjan,bukan narget player.kalo ditulis narget player,aku boleh narget tjan ato PW (redirection effect dari rule 212.9g).coba tulisan tjan di pertanyaannya ganti dgn player,kan beda artinya.
Kupo - May 16, 2008 05:48 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE |
| disitu kan tulisannya shock narget tjan,bukan narget player. |
Emang Tjan bukan player?
| QUOTE |
| kalo ditulis narget player,aku boleh narget tjan ato PW (redirection effect dari rule 212.9g). |
Sejak kapan Shock yg bunyinya "Shock deals 2 damage to target creature or player" boleh narget PW?
| QUOTE |
| coba tulisan tjan di pertanyaannya ganti dgn player,kan beda artinya. |
Apa bedanya?
tienming - May 16, 2008 06:41 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (L 6160 L0 @ May 16 2008, 05:12 PM) |
| QUOTE (Kupo @ May 16 2008, 11:31 PM) | | QUOTE (L 6160 L0 @ May 16 2008, 03:12 PM) | | jawabannya C lah.kan targetnya dah ditentuin. |
Baik A maupun C targetnya sama... Mana bisa Shock target PW?
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disitu kan tulisannya shock narget tjan,bukan narget player.kalo ditulis narget player,aku boleh narget tjan ato PW (redirection effect dari rule 212.9g).coba tulisan tjan di pertanyaannya ganti dgn player,kan beda artinya.
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601.14. Replacement and prevention effects watch for a particular event to happen and then completely or partially replace that event. The limited range of influence option can cause the modified event to contain instructions that can?t be carried out, in which case the player simply ignores the impossible instructions. See rule 419, ?Replacement and Prevention Effects.?
jadi harus terjadi dulu(resolve dalam kasus ini) bukan waktu di stack (belum terjadi)
Morphling - May 17, 2008 01:08 AM (GMT)
Hahaha .. ^_^ sudah2x .. gak usah terlalu menggebu gebu untuk menjawab Quiz ini dgn benar ....
Inget lho ya masalah yang terjadi di Forum ... biarlah terjadi di forum .. jgn dibawa ke dunia nyata ... May Peace Be With U .. (*Obi Wan Kenobi TM)
L 6160 L0 - May 17, 2008 02:05 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Kupo @ May 17 2008, 12:48 AM) |
| QUOTE | | disitu kan tulisannya shock narget tjan,bukan narget player. |
Emang Tjan bukan player?
| QUOTE | | kalo ditulis narget player,aku boleh narget tjan ato PW (redirection effect dari rule 212.9g). |
Sejak kapan Shock yg bunyinya "Shock deals 2 damage to target creature or player" boleh narget PW?
| QUOTE | | coba tulisan tjan di pertanyaannya ganti dgn player,kan beda artinya. |
Apa bedanya? |
ya ampun tjan itu player toh.tak pikir class dewa gitu :lol:
boleh kok narget PW.itu sejak aku ndak ngerti rulenya ;)
tulisan tjan & player beda banget lah.masak sama sich :(
tienming - May 18, 2008 01:37 PM (GMT)
Jawaban: A, B, dan C
A karena Ian memainkan Shock dengan memilih melakukan effect sbg berikut
Shock Damage(2)--> Furnace (4)--> Planeswalker (4)
B karena Ian memainkan Shock dengan memilih melakukan effect sbg berikut
Shock Damage(2)--> Planeswalker(2)
C karena Ian memainkan Shock dengan memilih melakukan effect sbg berikut
Shock Damage(2)--> Furnace (4)--> Tjan (4)
212.9g If noncombat damage would be dealt to a player by a source controlled by an opponent, that opponent may have that source deal that damage to a planeswalker the first player controls instead. This is a redirection effect (see rule 419.6c) and is subject to the normal rules for ordering replacement effects (see rule 419.9). The opponent chooses whether to redirect the damage as the redirection effect is applied.
419.1. Replacement and prevention effects are continuous effects that watch for a particular event to happen and then completely or partially replace that event. These effects act like ?shields? around whatever they?re affecting.
419.6c Some effects replace damage dealt to one creature, planeswalker, or player with the same damage dealt to another creature, planeswalker, or player; such effects are called ?redirection? effects. If either creature or planewalker is no longer in play when the damage would be redirected, or is no longer a creature or planeswalker when the damage would be redirected, the effect does nothing.