about religions

are u "religious" person?
if yes in which deity do u believe?
if its one of the most popular deities what exactly makes it most real and existent than lets say......Krom! the god of Conan in the movie! :D

---besides of course religious books which are not an objective and strong evidence--- :D

*btw.....did u know that Cimmerians were actually real people who attcked the Ionian Greeks?*

as for me....my nick speaks for my thesis on that issue in case somebody hasnt noticed it!....if any! :lol:

its sad that i wont be here for that debate.....its my favorite!!! :P :P :P :P

I dont know i want to believe more than anything but sth, i dont know, ruins all my efforts.

You know what they say, "Sure there is no god, but if there is we are SO screwed".

PS Perhaps it rationality as you say, perhaps i mistrust the clergy who knows.

thats pointless...why should a "god" want to screw as? :huh:

Simple, we defied him and im not talking about the christian God of love etc, but a god, a superior being and since we ignore his existence do we know how he thinks and acts? Doubtful.

to think and act he should be a person.....an inedifinate hypothetical existance whether he is the evil or the creator cannot think or act!

the xian(christian) dualism.....good-bad.....non built(not created be "god")-built(created by "god")......material-immaterial is unsubstancial in any logical course of thinking....

what superior being that takes care are u talking about??
why would it be interesting whether we are acting the way it would like or we do our own stuff?

if he is the way u say it probable be too indifferent for what u think of him

AFAIK every god(of those believed) thinks and acts, as for why he would care about what we think, i cant say. I dont know how he thinks, perhaps he says we owe him for creating us, perhaps he is just a malicious being and want to torment us, can you say?

the way u think of that is indicative of the xian subculture they have addicted us from the time we were born

each day was a catechize to the xian view of the world and their silly superstitous that are literally more primitive than from ancient times......

that is because they try to addict us in that beliefs so that few people question the priesthood authority and priviledges....

besides the big and numerous churches,their mummbling and the much incense their nothing else "divine" "good" or "evil" that it things or act.....at least if it is,it has completely nothing to do with the attributes the church gives it!

the church want to believe that the god they claim they represent is our father and he watches and and and....while the priests-if they are how god wants them- are able to forgive "sins" and "bless" and and and....very convinient for them i say....

i say we pack them up and send all of them to Israel and Iran :lol:
1,2,3 σας κάνουμε τα έξοδα να πάτε στην Περσία!!! :lol:

were would u hear about "god",jehoshua and miriam if not from them?
nowhere

that existed only in abraham mind and a bunch of conspirators of Roman times....

Yeah ok and after youn anti-Christian outburst would you care to explain?

I of course am not reffering only to the god of the Christians when i say all gods think and act, didnt Zeus act? Didnt he think? The anthropomorphism(i think thats the word) of the Olymbian Gods dictate that he did.

ok look....most people thought of Zeus like the war-chief,the faction-chief,the patron,the fucker,the avenger of the enemies of Greeks etc

but the myths had also deep meanings and symbolisms....the name Zeus-Dias itself as u may understand means division-connection....all the myths have glamorous meanings that show as the view of the ancient Greeks to life....even the myths with the gods punishing people show the freedom and the hope and the romance....

the mystical meanings which didnt of course were known by an elite....the priesthood at those times for example during Persian invasion,also munipulated the people and Delphoi itself did what they could to discourage the Greeks to fight the Persians all together....by the oracles to everybody....esp to Cretans and Argives who were more easy(for different reasons each) not to take part in war...

also the Delphoi later favoed the Macs to take over and make Hellas under a single lead.....it was for their benefit to control people more easy

however it wasnt part of the Greek religion to scare and sin and satanise things and and and.......
but most important it didnt imnclude any kind of end of world or savor/messiah to came and save us (from what).....thats rediculous!!

if the ancient religion could have survived from the prosecutions of the xians and the dominace of the biblical ethos,then i m pretty sure it would have been progrssed and transformed in a very realistic,pratcicall and humanitary form!

as u know during Elefsis mysteries the people who succeded and chosen--1/3 from Lesser Elefsinia...and the 1/3 of the rest from Big Elefsinia became better persons after the tests...and were considered more happy and more capable than all....

i guess to consider them that way they should have a good reason.....
how does the xian religion make people better?
i see only great crimes committed from the church during all its presence in Europe,native Americans etc.....millions of people.....in ancient Hellas the kills for religious were almost inexistant in comparison with xian times.....i dont mention again the crimes against unbelievers at the protoxian years,which u know i have the links and the data.....