Whiskey's Rant, Split from the other Topic.

Hapslash, I'm sorry if I'm coming off as a dick here but...



Who cares? I mean honestly we get it, you stopped making models because you're bored. Why make it more than that? We figured it out when you randomly disappeared for months on end from your own community, apparently not giving whim nor worry about it. But honestly, does this truly surprise anyone? Is anyone going "OH NO HAPSLASH IS LEAVING JA?!" JA is dead, stick a fork in it. LucasArts' killed it by not updating it more than once, the community killed it by doing nothing but complaining, so why does it matter? I'm not going to sympathize with you here, because you put yourself in said positions knowing full well what "stresses" it might bring. Try working from 4AM to sometimes 9PM every day a week and still finding time to run a community, I do it - it sucks, but I do it because I get a satisfaction out of it.

If you're going to be a leader, then why not step up to the plate. This is after all called "Hapslash's Void" Not "Mono's Void" or any other mod. The mods have been doing more work, in my overall opinion, than you have in the past 6 months. Why not try to do something to spark the community, rather than try and sink it? Tired of JA, move on to something else. Don't bicker and moan going "Woe-ways me." I'm not going to buy it, and I think a lot of people here feel the same way, despite them maybe not voicing that said opinion for fear of some moderator throwing a banhammer at them. Honestly? Don't care. I'm going to make my said opinion known, I've been around this community a hell of a long time. Almost three years I believe ( I was a "member" here before I registered to make a post), so if I have something to say - I'm going to say it.

You can all try and silence me and tell me I have... and I quote "...NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE !!!!ING TALKING ABOUT...." to some extent that is, and that's all fine and well - but I do. Hap, grow a pair - stop whining. A lot of us have been in a bad situation, some of us more than once. Try losing your left eye to a rare cancer that only effects like something in one in thirty thousand newborns, you don't see me !!!!ing about it. Try losing your father when you were just a kid, or your aunt who was practically a second mother, or your uncle you've known since you were a child and has been a source of inspiration - try having cancer AGAIN within your life span as I have.

There's a hell of a lot worse situations than "Getting sick of JA."

And there's a hell of a lot more reason to get upset about something than this.

So why am I even wasting my time...


Oh yeah, thanks for the models ( Specifically Obi-Wan )

Love,
Dave




*IB EDIT: Added quote for context.*

This post has been edited by Infinity Blade on February 22nd, 2008 - 10:52 AM

OVER REACTION OF THE YEAR!

I don't know we still have about ten months to go...

Only as far as you know. *Snicker*

In all honesty, though, I guess I didn't read Hap's post in the same manner you did. I saw it as more of an explanation to the reasoning behind why Hap disappeared for several months, for those who were still wondering. But maybe that's just me. I won't bother to try to disprove you because you're entitled to your own opinion and perspective, though, and I don't really care to get into debate on something that isn't really my business.

I couldn't resist commenting. -HS-

Yeah, you are being a bit of a dick there... but personally, I'd say more like an asshole.

BIG asshole....... tiny penis

Back when Anakin was coming out, you were among the naysayers and complainers about the way things were going. I don't really find this behavior surprising, especially when you consider yourself a "leader" of sorts. I see a lot of supposed Admins get indignant when voicing their opinions on other boards, and get uppity when they find that they lack clout in another community.

I think you forgot your opening "rant tags" there...

And no.. you obviously don't "get it". He posted this because even though he left so long ago, people STILL bug him about it, and often enough to be annoying. He was merely stating in a more official manner that he was done with it as is. Considering this has been his official place for his announcements, where else would he make such a "formal" announcement?

His tone contains his reasoning, and perhaps will dissuade further pestering about what some people should have figured out by now.

And no... I didn't stop modding because I got bored. I enjoy modeling and texture editing. I'm still doing that, just in a more conducive environment.

First off, this isn't MY community, it hasn't been for years. It started off as mine, but if you had been paying any attention, they dropped my name off the banner a long time ago. The forum restructured itself from under me, and I accepted that change. As of which, I am a honorary moderator, and have little to do with the running of this forum. As such, I am free to come and go as I pleases. And for your information, I was using that time more productively... chasing girls.

What, are we making this about you now?

How did I know what stresses it would bring? Am I clairvoyant? Hey, do I have the power to read people's thoughts?... Maybe I can see the future! I'm going to bend this spoon with my mind....

Damn, didn't work. Maybe I'm just some poor schlub who thought this would be fun.

Uhh, okay.. who said he was trying to be a leader?

I am not a leader of men, since I prefer to follow......Do you think I could have a drink, since it's so hard to swallow....Ooooohhhooooooohhh......So hard to swallooooow....

The mods HAVE been doing more work on the Void itself than he has in the past 6 months. This is just indisputable fact. Hap is another moderator here, bu hell.. out of everyone, Cmdr. Valiant truly does more moderating than anyone around here, even myself.

Congrats on being pointless.

And just so you know.. the only reason "Hapslash" is still in the URL itself... is because we figured some of the people couldn't handle the URL change at the moment. That and we're lazy sometimes. Oh well.


See what I mean, my own forum turned on me... damn I've got it rough. As for the mods doing more work... well they should... it's their job. I'm just an honorary moderator remember. But you should know that, since you know everything that's going on.

I have moved on from JA, and this was the only official word that I've let out to people so they know that. I've popped in and out of the community before in the past, as you've stated. This is my "don't expect me to pop back in" message, with a little explanation to those who were interested.

Oh, yeah... it's "woe is me" dumbass...

Uhm... ok? Who in there right mind here thinks *that*...?

Hey.... no one ever gave me a banhammer..... can I get a banhammer? BaaaaaannnHammmeerrrrrrrrrr!!!

The only people I ever remember us banning right off... were the ones who really only came here to take a piss on someone else, or just be flaming. Ya know, those who registered just to be an asshole to others.... People who registered and just started posting things like "OMG you !!!!ing suck you !!!! !!!! rat !!!!ing bastard mother !!!!ers!!! You fat !!!!s!!!"....

... You know... posts kinda like... you and others were making in the Anakin topic.

The only reason you're still here... is you apologized. I have a low tolerance for useless people who come around only to be vulgar and rude. I make those people go bye-bye. As is there are a lot of people around here that push the acceptable limit on that, and some part of me DOES want to get rid of them... but them being reasonable has stayed my hand...... for Now.

The "oh noez mods aboose and bahn" reasoning is getting REAL old.
I dunno.... maybe things might be like that in... YOUR community... but not here.

He's making his sad opinion known...

Then you should really know better...

Pffft,.. especially after 3 years...

Lurker does not equal Member.
Lurker who registers and spouts obscenities... ESPECIALLY does not equal Member.

Hey,... If the shoe fits....

You might want to rethink that a bit
I love it when you moaners post....

YOU CAN SILENCE ME... BUT THE RESISTANCE SHALL LIVE ON. OUR PEOPLE WILL HAVE THEIR DAY IN THE SUN. LIBERTY OR DEATH!!! VIVA LA REVOLUCION! I'M NOT SCARED OF YOU!!!

Lol.

Geeze, what would i do with four?
Ya know, I sincerely doubt you're sorry for sounding like a dick.(Asshole, lets not get the terminology confused)
And please... stop thinking about Hap's testicles. It disturbs me.

You and me both,... but I'm not about to question anyone's choice of lifestyle.

Oh god... he's going to go on about himself again, isn't he.....

*sigh*... Yup.

Didn't you... just do that?
I do believe he is doing that,.... and just wait, there's more...!

Uhm... you do realize you're just being an assuming jackass, and for all you know, he's possibly been through even worse than that. Regardless, we all have stories like that. I nearly bled to death last March. Last October Hap was in the hospital for something that could have killed him. And that was a barrel of laughs...

He was fully explaining the situation to those who still pester him, hoping it would finally sink in... not looking to "unburden his soul" about the "woes" of being a JA modder. He just chooses to do so via a more polite, if not a bit annoyed explanation. He prefers doing that in lieu of saying "F*** off!"... like I think you perhaps might.

Yes... perhaps in the future I'll try the "I hate you people, you suck!" route. But that only begs the question, do they suck because I hate them, or do I hate them because they suck?

Seriously, though... you're the one who's being a "drama queen" here.

"queen",.. that's the second reference so far...

Not what it's about.. but what the hell... give him a cookie for putting together a rational thought.

I don't know... why are you?
Who's upset?.... Oh, I get it! He is. I'm sorry, dude. I had no idea that it meant that much to you. Want a hug? On second thought, I wouldn't want to lead you on.

I'm just in it because I like bashing pretentious over-inflated jackasses who just like pissing on people for whatever reason they can come up with.... it's a "turnabout is fair play" kinda thing. I love the irony.

And,I'm sorry... But, you have been here for three years, you say... So, you really should have known you'd have this coming.

That, and I guess I'm just finally starting to get back into my "jerk bashing" mode.
..... In fact... you're the first one in a while.


So here.. have a star sticker, Cancerboy! ... ...




God, that feels good....

Taadaaaa! Another victory for the mighty confederation!

This post has been edited by HapSlash on February 20th, 2008 - 08:26 PM

well said IB now go have some coffee

Ok, I'll say it... You don't know what you're exclamation point-ing talking about.



Dude, you have got your head wedged so far up your,... Did you stop to think about your post before you hit the little 'Add Reply' button, or did you manage to do that without your knowledge? Just a tip, but it might help for future reference.


But... The truth is, you really don't know much about what you're talking about. IB picks your post apart piece by piece, but to put it more succinctly... You don't know me, and you don't know what this thread was about. If I was to go about whining, as you seem to think the purpose of this thread was, I would have been doing so long before this.

All this is, is basically an official word saying I'm not involved anymore. Sure, some people got that.. But a LOT of people didn't. This was a thread I've been meaning to make for a long time. I've just gotten tired of explaining it on a one on one basis for every hopeful who "needs" to know why.



P.S. I added a few comments to IB's post...

This post has been edited by HapSlash on February 20th, 2008 - 08:36 PM

Lovely, it truly shows what colors you and IB have. One speaks his mind, only to be downplayed. What a wonderful shining example of those who know how to handle a community...


Indeed...

I had more respect for both of you, especially IB, but - of course what does that matter. It's only the internet.

Oh and to put it Bluntly, as IB said I would..



"Go F*** Yourself."

Obviously not. You did tell me to quit whining and grow a pair.

It's little late to try to take the moral high ground when you start out by slinging mud. I'm not buying it, and neither will anyone else.

See you in the funny papers, Skippy!

No.. you weren't "downplayed".......
...The word is "dismissed". There's a difference.

The idea of him just giving an official announcement to people who kept pestering him was apparently way over your head. When people like that post bashing opinions... I don't downplay them; they are completely disregarded.

The actual responding to such a person is more just.... blood sport than anything.
It's fun to humiliate pompous jackasses... and usually we entertain any willing spectators.

Mono and I have been debating the name... "Forum Hockey" sounded nice, but so did "Kick-the-Idiot".
We sometimes just refer to it more as a tag team match, though.

Maybe it's more like Volleyball?


My Serve!

Heh... so what you're saying is... I had you pegged exactly right.


....Ooooh... CALLED SHOT! --- DOUBLE SCORE!

Heh, I think IB has had enough coffee for one day, Ldog.

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Please refrain from name calling in the future. I thought w were a little more mature here.

-HS-

Whether you could care less about people here, after all we are on the internet and most of us can't put a face to the name, but we are still human with feelings and emotions just like you. We all have a right to speak our opinions about certain matters, just like you. But to blatantly come off as an asshole and think it's ok if your first remark within your post is apologizing if you come off as a dick is going to make your post any better, think again.

So you've had a rough deal in life, we all have. Hell there are people here that have it A LOT worse than you. All of us could go off on some tangent about what has happened to us in our lives that would put yours to shame. So don't go off on us saying that you have life so bad and still manage to get through. Hell I could tell you stories of my life, but it wouldn't relevant to the topic.

Haps post wasn't about stresses in life. I didn't take it as such. I took it as him being a bit tired of all the selfish people whose original intent to join this board was just for the Anakin model. Then as time progressed, they became too critical of his motives. What does that tell you? How would you feel if there were hundreds of people demanding something from you? It'd get a little old, wouldn't it? Hell yeah it would.

But just because you sit safely at your desk, behind your keyboard does not make you immune to attack. If you make a post like that, be prepared for retaliation. It's gonna come, and it will come from more directions than you could even dream of.

It really doesn't bother me... I made my opinion known and predicted this would happen. I'm obviously fine with the consequences, but I'm going to drop it here. Mainly because I'm bored now, I was expecting a more mature countering from the majority of you, of all Marius was the only one who posted something worthwhile reading. I like debating, I like having fevered conversations - but when you stoop down to the levels that Hap, IB, and the majority of you did, you just reaffirm you really bring nothing new to the table.

I'm allowed to show disgust or disagreement am I not Marius? Being a jerk has worked quite well in my life, I tell the truth. I don't sugarcoat anything - period. It's why I am part of a successful business. People may not like the truth, but they will respect it. That is what my life has been built upon, Respect. And I could feel nothing but being disrespected with the excuses Hap was putting out there. I'm by all means allowed to do that, and I will.

Marius, you of all have atleast understood - yeah I get it, there ARE those who have had it worse than me. But I've had it pretty rough. Not to mention, I couldn't believe how low IB went as to making fun of someone who had cancer, what the hell is your problem man? You're a sorry excuse for a human being you know that?

Anyways, Marius I'm going to drop all qualms here - I wasn't angry or mad at anyone, just annoyed - as I couldn't help but feel that Haps' entire post was about "Oh Poor Me." Hap brought all of that stress on himself. He did nothing but delay or cease work on his projects. My idealogy is, if you make a promise to start something - you need to finish it.

Grow up, all of you...

Except Marius.

This post has been edited by Whiskey on February 21st, 2008 - 12:43 PM

I'm going to pick your post apart, but not with the intent you think I am.

I am not debating that you made your opinion known. Everyone is entitled to that. I believe it's the way you went about it that set everyone off. I love a good debate as well, heated or not. It's fun and sometimes beneficial to the parties involved.

Showing disagreement is a part of life. Showing disgust is as well, but it depends on the circumstances. Now as for being part of a successful business comes with the territory of having to play rough. I'm not going ask what you do for a living, it's none of my business, however having that same mentality on a message board is a lot different than being a work related area. There has to be a give and take area where you separate business with pleasure.

I am not disputing the fact that you have had a rough life. Hell my mother died from cancer, so I was offended by IB's remark even though it wasn't aimed at me personally. I would never wish nor make fun of someone who has, or has had that in their life.

Now as for finishing projects. I am all for finishing projects. All three of my jobs demand it, but these projects that Hap as undertaken are after all just for a game, and importances in life take precedence over anything related to a measly piece of code for a game. Now if this was his job and he made a profit from it, then I would agree with you entirely. He did this because he liked the community that he was in, and wanted to share with that community. But believe it or not, the demands on these models he produced were sometimes more demanding than what would happen in the workplace.

I think the point has been made, but since I am not the one who made this topic in the first place, I won't close it. I think Hap should make that decision.

What this really means, folks:

I was so angry when I heard that Hapslash was moving on in life and I wasn't going to get anymore cool models or skins that I twisted my pants into a knot and threw a hissy fit!

That sums it up real nicely I think.

Well, I mean, anyone is allowed to be a twit, it's just that most people have enough sense not to be, ya know?

Well, Whisky, I do sympathize with your cancer, but I don't think something like that is something you would compare to Hap not feeling like finishing some models for a video game that no one really cares about anymore. They are two entirely different worlds, and comparing them is just silly, in my opinion. I think you went a little over the top in your post there. I didn't read it as a "Woe is me" kinda thing, it was more of an official statement of him saying he wasn't going to finish the models and why.

Having seen the pompous side of Whiskey before, but also having seen how he seemingly improved in later months, I'm rather discouraged to see that things have sort of gone back.

Not that I have a part in this here conversation, but your post, your first post in this here thread that is, really seems to show you took the topic in a completely different manner than most. HapSlash ain't one to really complain, and what you might call complaining is probably just Hap' stating his opinion on situations that are going on around him; not complaining at all, in reality.
Your misunderstanding might stem from the fact that you seem to lead a different life than most people here, but if you're under the impression that everyone here is under twenty, goes to high-school, and doesn't have a full-time job, you'd best get rid of those thoughts because they're false. A good deal of folks' here are experienced in living an adult life. My reason for mentioning those last two sentences is because I see a lot of 'I's, 'My', and 'Work' 'Job' 'Life's in your posts, with an additional amount of references to the way you lead your life, as if you're the only one with experience in such matters. Just wanted to clear that up in case it was in your mind, or out of it.

Oh, and this to mention, in short, that a good few people here are acknowledging your position in life, but are trying to tell you that there are some people here who have different personalities and ways of expressing themselves, and that anyone can be misunderstood. Personally, I'd say both sides have been cleared up; HapSlash's views have been somewhat clarified (in the way that most people here took HapSlash's post as an answer to a frequently asked question rather than a complaint as you seemed to take it), your own views and mode of expressing yourself have been registered (you don't 'sugar-coat' things, you speak bluntly and directly without giving much thought to public opinion or the situations of others), so that ought to really close things up. Maybe.

Bah, I'm not in a political mood right now so I can't make a half decent post, but I know at least a few people will understand what I mean, and might pass that meaning on.

Yeah well making fun of one of the most deadliest diseases to mankind that has NO CURE, is just inhumane. So all in all, IB just shows how much he only cares for other things then for someone being a cancer survivor.

This post has been edited by Kaos on February 21st, 2008 - 05:13 PM

dude, just be quiet, please.