A Map?

I was looking through the Timeline and Storyline, and realized they could use a good visual or two (ie: a world map), to represent the ongoing war. In my opinion, it would be easier to RP if you had a map. This map could be dynamic, and change over time based on wins by a faction. Territory where someone might be RPing one day could be hostile territory another day. But it's just an idea I thought up, your welcome to shoot it down if you want, or not.


EDIT: Question, do any of the world's countries openly oppose GAUG and side with DOCIS?

This post has been edited by JUNE on Jul 30 2007, 11:55 PM

Well we used to have a map for the previous version, but since well no one battled the opposing force the map never changed. And while we do have guerillas no orgnized countries oppose the two super powers.

Okay, if there are no countries that openly support DOCIS, that's okay. I fiddled around for a bit and here's a test map that I propose.

Key:
DOCIS-occupied area
GAUG-contolled area
Neutral Territories
Major Conflict Zones
EDIT: Oh and I added the "Shattered Sea" caused by OP: Heaven's Cry, sort of in the middle of the US, I think it might be too big, I mean it was just one colony right?

Note: this is just a "test map", and I don't know the exact info on the positions of each government on Earth, so I made a few superpowers in the world neutral (like China), or else DOCIS would have just been run over when they invaded Earth. As well I made all the Scandinavian countries and neutral, as you notice in practically all the Gundam Series, they are neutral. Same with Switzerland, they're always neutral.

EDIT: I took out this picture so the page doesn't take too long to load for you people with dial-up and such. Just look at the pictures below.

Tell me what you guys think, and I'll modify it accordingly.

This post has been edited by JUNE on Aug 1 2007, 09:42 AM

The listings of individual states are, and it's been a moment since I checked, in the storyline so you should check there.

After reading more, I read a part somewhere that London, Los Angeles, and Hong Kong were destroyed. So.. I modified the map and made fronts where Los Angeles, Hong Kong, and London are in DOCIS control. Since Honk Kong was invaded, I switched China to being a GAUG member. And replacement I put another world power (India) to be neutral. Oh and I made a map showing the pre-war status of all the countries.




Oh and I have another suggestion (I'm not sure if this is being implemented): why not assign each team to a certain region, so all the mission you guys do weekly or bi-weekly are not concentrated in one area(divided like this)

- N. America and Carribean
- S. America
- Africa
- Europe and Mediterranean
- Middle East
- South East Asia

Or even simpler, divide the world into the hemispheres like so (one of your sub-forums are divided like this, which led me to question again if this is already being implemented):

- NW Hemisphere (1 GAUG and DOCIS team operating)
- SW Hemisphere (1 GAUG and DOCIS team operating)
- NE Hemisphere (1 GAUG and DOCIS team operating)
- SE Hemisphere (1 GAUG and DOCIS team operating)

Once again another random idea I had, I had lot of spare time this evening so, yeah..

Looks good mostly, one minor probnlem I got with the Map is the positioning of DOCIS in South America. As we know from the Ragged Memory Thread they do hold a Space Gate there that stands within a mostly jungle area, but the only parts DOCIS holds there is the South of it, Argentina and Chile. These are more rocky and plain-like due to them being made up of a big parts from the Anden Mountain Chain. So you might want to enlarge their space a bit further into the parts that are further in the North-East from where they currently are.

Taking into account Infected's post, I have once again changed the map. Venezuela and the north part of South America are in DOCIS Control. As well, looking at Mission 3, "Urban Acclamation" and it's primer, GAUG's presence in North America is but a "resistance." I just realized in Mission 2's primer, DOCIS has been the dominant one in South America, so I added even more territory to DOCIS in North and South America.



Oh and I was thinking about doing a map of space (like the Lagrange Points). From what I could gather, there are 17 colonies, but 2 were destroyed (Diaz 6 accidently destroyed by GAUG and Brez 2 in OP:Heaven's Cry), therefore 15 left. But there would be no point of me making one if there won't be any battles in space, so I'll hold that off for now.

This post has been edited by JUNE on Aug 1 2007, 09:50 AM

While I wouldn't mind teams having certain assigned base camps, having them do missions in only that area would get a little stale after a while, seeing as we'd be fighting the same enemies over and over with the exception of battles with NPCs. Just having assigned bases, though, teams could wander to other areas momentarily for one reason or another for just enough time to do a mission there.

There were few more destroyed than that.

Brez 4, fourteen years ago.

Diaz 6 and Brez 2, as you mentioned.

Then, sometime during the current war, Roke 1 and Mos 1 have been destroyed. I've even hinted at my character having helped cause the "accident" at Mos 1.

That makes the count 12.

Ah, I see. Hmm.. To think that DOCIS is capable of worldwide war with GAUG (I would assume GAUG vastly outnumbers DOCIS forces) is quite staggering, especially since only 12 colonies are left. This got me thinking, was Diaz 6 an average sized colony(the population was 450k when it was destroyed)? Because if half a million is average for 1 colony, 12 colonies left, that would make the approximate population of DOCIS 6 million. After thinking about it, I find it hard to believe DOCIS can draw enough military strength to actually battle with GAUG. If most of the world is united under GAUG, their minimum military strength would obviously number in the millions. So.. are DOCIS capable of surviving the fight with GAUG by being better armed, perhaps much better training, or what?

This post has been edited by JUNE on Aug 1 2007, 09:26 PM

well the way I look at is like this, now lets look at what regions DOCIS controls on earth, Africa, South America, and North West America some very heavily populated areas. This is ofcourse considering man didn't introduce some mandatory birth control (which is likely), even if the population would still develop. Also, lets compare DOCIS to zeon, they were completly outclassed the Federation, but their people were fanatics and most males were generally in some form of military service. The GAUG however, still holds most of the major cities across the world from what I can see, which would mean most of the people would not be affected by the war directly. This would mean that because the war wasn't goin on right infront of their home, they wouldn't see how it affected their lives, there by balancing the forces out so to speak.

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Stop blowing holes in my ship our plot!

Normally I would be pretty good at creating a believable situation for this sort of thing, but even I can't justify 6 million against 6 billion.

Hahaha Sorry, it's just I'm trying to get a good feel on the situation of the war. Maybe we can explain this by saying one or a combination of the following:

-GAUG isn't as organized as DOCIS(despite technological advancements) and commands for troop movement, reinforcemnts and such don't get through on time.
-The standard DOCIS grunt is maybe trained 2-3 times better than the regular GAUG grunt.
-GAUG's been experiencing difficulty mass-producing enough MW for their forces, thus plenty of troops are left foot-slogging fighting MWs with rifles and RPGs while the lucky ones get a MW to fight DOCIS MW vs. MW
-Political Division between GAUG causing some countries to fight each other rather than fight DOCIS together
-Very few supporters of the war, thus military recruits are very low(this can be solved through conscription, though)

The third point (about MW production) would be the strongest reason. If a team of 5 soldiers in big badass MWs engage a platoon(about 50 i think) of men, the platoon of men are going to get stomped on. The fourth point could work too, since there's always division in practically every country.

Just trying to cover the hole I ripped open in the plot.

Those are merely 1000 to 1 odds... Rough estimates support that the Greek forces at Thermopylae fought odds close to 1320 to 1...

The two differences are... The lesser force in that instance was defending, not attacking... And that you'd be looking for a scenario that'd at least allow the players' actions a chance to influence the story, where in that instance the lesser forces WERE defeated. Initially at least.

So in short, the odds are entirely possible. However because of using such large numbers, it'd completely take the ability to influence the storyline out of the players' hands...

True, but the Greeks were on a different level compared to the Persians. Spartan society revolved around fighting, so naturally their army was well trained and armed. The Persians, compared to the Greeks, were poorly trained, and probably had less organization and weapons, due to the vastness of their army.

In the war between DOCIS and GAUG, the battles are more level considering the abilities you needed to fight back then are different from what you need now. For example, if an incredibly weak person was an amazing sniper and a man with the strength of the hulk had to kill each other, who would win? The sniper of course, all you need is a headshot, then bang!, they're dead. Back then you had to have physical strength to kill.

So, I still am saying the best reasons that DOCIS is capable of withstanding GAUG is: 1) GAUG don't have the ability to supply their forces with enough MWs, and 2) There is political division within GAUG, causing infighting.

And a question, I know there haven't been any missions yet in space, but is GAUG launching an offensive whiel fighting on earth, or are they purely on the defence right now?

Doesnt the story line thread also state that this is a war of ideals?

"
The current year is 2741, and in the time since “The Fall” a year ago, the war has raged fiercely. Many sympathizers have changed their homes, both from Earth, and the Colonies to fight on the side they feel is right."

So the entire Earth isnt supporting Gaug, and Docis isnt only recruiting from the colonies.