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Should we war Imperial Forces in a matched opts war?
Yes. [ 13 ]  [61.90%]
No. [ 8 ]  [38.10%]
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damon
Posted on Mar 29 2009, 10:35 PM


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we are gonna war if matched opts in the next 3 weeks.. and yes this is a declaration.. im sick and tired of redup complaining that al wins in numbers.. he is full of [BEEP]... last time u saw the pulled what 10? yet our highest 10 outleveled them, and they still complain about being outleveled.. ive really had enough.. this is a war if anything to prove al can fight a matched opts clan and win.. im not saying we are turning into a matched opts warring clan... im just saying we need this 1 war... so... for this war i wanna try to organize with our highest levels just for 1 fight and when we win we can hold that win to them everytime they claim we outnumber them.
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mastaofmelee
Posted on Mar 29 2009, 10:58 PM


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Dude give me a time and I'll try to be there. I'm all about shutting up a complaining clan. wink.gif My combat level's 103, 100 f2p (almost 101). I'll let my bro know, Bad Santa95, his combat's about 115.


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Kerkennah
Posted on Mar 29 2009, 11:11 PM


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My combat is too low to participate in one of these, But I would come and cheer you guys on smile.gif Choosing the correct people at one of these wars is whats important, you have to know who is binding and who is sniping and everything to know who to pick. I think that will be the most important thing, oh and also who tanks best and stuff.


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damon
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QUOTE (Kerkennah @ Mar 29 2009, 11:11 PM)
My combat is too low to participate in one of these, But I would come and cheer you guys on smile.gif Choosing the correct people at one of these wars is whats important, you have to know who is binding and who is sniping and everything to know who to pick. I think that will be the most important thing, oh and also who tanks best and stuff.

yea i dont like excluding people but thats why we only need to do this once.. after we get the monkey off our back we can stick to fullouts again
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Posted on Mar 30 2009, 05:45 AM


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I'll come and pwn Redup wub.gif


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Golden arm42
Posted on Mar 30 2009, 06:28 AM


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No. This is a stupid idea and you just got completely goaded by Red. Who cares what he thinks? If he doesn't want to war us fullout he doesn't need to accept. There's a reason why he's a 95+ clan and we're a 75+ clan; they're SUPPOSED to have higher levels than we are. It's also not fair to the people like K Arthur and Blompty and such who come to wars, get everything ready, spend half an hour massing...and then get dropped.

If you go through with this, you've been completed suckered by Redup, and that's EXACTLY what he wants. You won't have got the best of him; he'd have got the best of you. You're a great guy and I know you've got a lot of pride but there's a time to step back and think about it and not just charge ahead. blink.gif


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mastaofmelee
Posted on Mar 30 2009, 08:09 AM


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I can see where you're coming from Golden but I don't think we'll have to worry about the lower level people in our clan if we go about this the right way. We should have chosen a group of our top 10 or 15 people that will be in the war beforehand so that we don't have to drop people at the last minute. If we do it should only be a small number depending on how many the other clan gets together. My combat level's only 100, so I might be one to get dropped but I wouldn't mind honestly. As long as we got to go and beat this guy at his own game.

But, you are the boss man so I'm not contradicting anything you say. If you really don't want us to go then just put your foot down. And just so you know, I can understand what you're saying. smile.gif


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Lamb Bug
Posted on Mar 30 2009, 09:11 AM


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With our best pull ever, we barely equalled them in levels.

My main problem with this is not fighting itself, but the way it came about. Red completely goaded Damon into this, and Damon took his bait hook, line and sinker.

We shouldn't fight.


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Magikman262
Posted on Mar 30 2009, 01:19 PM


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im gunna be brutally honest here ...

Damon is right . i hate to admit it . but he is .

you guys would take IF matched opts if you can co ordinate all ur high levels going .
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mastaofmelee
Posted on Mar 30 2009, 02:06 PM


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Well I would like to fight but both of our leaders are saying that we shouldn't and they know best. I've just joined and I'm not about to make myself sound like a jerk. All I know is that I like to fight and if we have someone complaining then I'd like to shut them up. But, I can see it from the perspective of the leaders and it's their clan. I'll personally stay out of this fight.


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damon
Posted on Mar 30 2009, 02:09 PM


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QUOTE (Golden arm42 @ Mar 30 2009, 06:28 AM)
No. This is a stupid idea and you just got completely goaded by Red. Who cares what he thinks? If he doesn't want to war us fullout he doesn't need to accept. There's a reason why he's a 95+ clan and we're a 75+ clan; they're SUPPOSED to have higher levels than we are. It's also not fair to the people like K Arthur and Blompty and such who come to wars, get everything ready, spend half an hour massing...and then get dropped.

If you go through with this, you've been completed suckered by Redup, and that's EXACTLY what he wants. You won't have got the best of him; he'd have got the best of you. You're a great guy and I know you've got a lot of pride but there's a time to step back and think about it and not just charge ahead. blink.gif

no first of all.. we out leveled them when we did fight them.. second of all, people are starting to get the impression we can only win a war in which we outnumber our enemies.. and this has been the case in all of our wars.. and im not just talking about redup.. after every post on sals now we get feedback saying that we win cuz of our numbers.. which isnt true.. im sure we outskill If as well in wars which is why i wanna war them. And yes they are 95+ and we are 75+.. but we clearly have the level advantage last time we fought. and im not saying we drop people, as i was trying to set up who would come, and its more then my personal pride.. i got my pride out of tanking them dry.. this is for AL's pride.. we are starting to lose respect after every war and people are looking at us as like ants and beat up on people cuz we double thier numbers.. thats bull [BEEP].. we have skills in wars as well... even if we do lose... it will show us what we can do..
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Lamb Bug
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New idea Damon.

Put a poll in the Council of Members forum. Just inform the members that if they are not 95-100+, they won't be fighting.

I will do the same for the Council of Elders.

If the members vote to fight, we fight. If they vote not to, we don't.

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damon
Posted on Mar 30 2009, 02:15 PM


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QUOTE (Lamb Bug @ Mar 30 2009, 09:11 AM)
With our best pull ever, we barely equalled them in levels.

My main problem with this is not fighting itself, but the way it came about. Red completely goaded Damon into this, and Damon took his bait hook, line and sinker.

We shouldn't fight.

how the [BEEP] am i goaded? its called proving them wrong.. its not baiting us... they are using whatever they can to diminish us... red knows we would own him in matched opts.. but he knows u also wouldnt accept 1, therefore he will keep holding that against us.. he is not conning us into a war in his favor.... plus isnt getting wars in our favor all we ever do? I mean really.. we only accept wars we know we can win.. a matched opts is a fair fight 90% of the time and in our case with IF it would b for sure.. And our best pull ever we barely equalled them? no... i beleive we had 11 100+ that war... and If had a total of 10 members.. in which only 8 were 100+... if that isnt domination.. idk wat is.... that was not equal... we clearly outleveled them no ifs ands or buts. We should fight for the pride of al... the pride of worth ethic.. the pride of being a skilled warring clan and not a bunch of kamikazes that through out crazy number to beat their opponents
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Golden arm42
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QUOTE (mastaofmelee @ Mar 30 2009, 01:09 PM)
I can see where you're coming from Golden but I don't think we'll have to worry about the lower level people in our clan if we go about this the right way. We should have chosen a group of our top 10 or 15 people that will be in the war beforehand so that we don't have to drop people at the last minute. If we do it should only be a small number depending on how many the other clan gets together. My combat level's only 100, so I might be one to get dropped but I wouldn't mind honestly. As long as we got to go and beat this guy at his own game.

But, you are the boss man so I'm not contradicting anything you say. If you really don't want us to go then just put your foot down. And just so you know, I can understand what you're saying. smile.gif

Look, this isn't about me ramming it down your guys' throat. It shouldn't be like that. It's just not a wise idea; for the reasons I stated earlier. We should be focused (Damon, you've said this before) on improving our warring performance, not fighting to appease other clan leaders. Think: does Redup have our best interests at heart? Of course not. He's simply eager to goad AL into fighting a war that wouldn't be advantageous for us to fight. IF is freaking 95+! It's not like we'd be humiliating ourselves to not fight them matche; rather, it's simply common sense. Discretion is the better part of valor.

I honestly think this is a bad idea, but let's put it in the members' hands with a poll. I'll go along with whichever side wins out.


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Posted on Mar 30 2009, 03:30 PM


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I don't see why it matters whether we do matched or not, I see lots of clans pulling 30s and 40s to a war and nothing is said, We are an active clan, that guy red is just jealous his clan can't pull above 16 people. We have the potential to pull 30 maybe even 40 to a war


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