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|Ancient Legion > Runescape/clan discussion > Pures|
|Posted by: Wellycraft24 Oct 4 2008, 05:20 AM|
|Okay, I have noticed since the supposed update of PvP worlds that Pures are coming back. all the decent pure training spots are being filled. Yay for Pures.|
|Posted by: Xmaster Oct 4 2008, 06:38 AM|
| lol and what might those spots beh XD
yea iv never pked in the old wildy but i shall make my pure pwn in the new one
|Posted by: 3monightmar3 Oct 4 2008, 07:54 AM|
|me too, every1 here who was successful in old wildy plz post any tips you have for creating and using pures!|
|Posted by: damon Oct 4 2008, 10:02 AM|
| roflmao lmfao noobs and i got made fun of for staying pure... i swear to god when wildy was taken out i told every1 i was gonna stay pure just in case... and guess what? i was right.. so look at me, one of the few lvl 80+ rune pures still around and i already got my range up and str for pvp... a few more levels and ill be straight pking... finally i dont look stupid for bieng pure... anyways.... most of you guys have high defence atm, which is gonna make it hard to become good pkers unless you get high range or mage... leveling strength really high will be hard with defence, because you not only need to hit high, you need to hit often... so if your defence is 60+ and your under 80 cb, then i suggest leveling range and mage. always remember that attack and strength go hand in hand.... and in the melee triangle, to be really good in something, something has to be sacraficed. if you want high str but you got defence already, youll find attack will be sacraficed, and you wont hit very much unless you get no armor fights. anyways here i have a lil guide i made on pures i think... its more along the bh lines but it still works... and just to let everyone know... ive been playing for like 4 years and never got an account passed 55 def.... 3 accounts i made from scratch that is over 80 cb... my original main damon36 i quit at lvl 81 cb and 55 def.... the ancients own i quit at 86 cb and 50 def.. and kid is the only 80+ account i got still going strong... and he is also 50 def.. so im pretty much use to not having defence
well here is a little guide... its bh really but i would reccomend leveling your pure to these stats anyways before pking because around 50-55 (the low bh levels) thats where pking gets good anyways and its not just 1 itemers with mith scimmies anymore.
|Posted by: Donovan Kays Oct 4 2008, 10:11 AM|
| I like range-2h pures they own
Just look up Most Dreaded on youtube
|Posted by: damon Oct 4 2008, 10:16 AM|
yea ranger 2h own the hardest..... even at a high level.. but its hard to get the proper attack level.. cuz im having trouble choosing how high my attack should be.
|Posted by: emad559 Oct 4 2008, 11:47 AM|
|Yeah rune 2h pures do own cause the people don't think that they're gonna get koed by range but when you pull out the 2h, BAM they're dead. Also, we gotta pk together sometime damon.|
|Posted by: damon Oct 4 2008, 11:59 AM|
sure that would be fun... i good at keepin people alive too.
|Posted by: rsw armoury Oct 4 2008, 12:39 PM|
| If you guys are interested in pures, I can help you build/play them. I've been an active pure in PC for a long time now, so I pretty much know everything there is to being a pure. Here's the breakdown for pures.
Pures are not someone with one stat that's very high. A pure will need to have high str, mage, and range. The purpose of each are as follows (f2p).
Range - Range is for tearing up mains. A pure ranger vs a main, the pure ranger will ALWAYS win. Range has EXTREMELY high accuracy and rune will not be able to defend against range. If you look at any vid with a 99 range lvl ~75 cb range pure, they will be owning mains that are 100+ easily. BAck when I had 58 range, I was training on mains in safe ffa, and I beat mains that are up to 20 lvls higher than me. Overall, range has very high accuracy and fairly high dps (damage per second). The accuracy of 60 range is around 80 attack. The accuracy of 75 range is around 99 attack.
Strength - Str has the highest dps. When you are a pure going against another pure, put away your bow and crank out your scim. F2p pures will have 40 attack. That is VERY low accuracy, but when going against another pure, accuracy doesn't matter. Do not try to kill mains with a scim. I only got 2 rune kills in BH using a scim.
Mage - Get 60 mage, and bind. That's all.
Range/2H - Although range/2h may be a fancy way to kill someone, it's actually very useless. In wars and pking, you are not going to get the 2h switch on anyone. It's only purpose is 1v1. Even in 1v1s, when people eat when their life falls below 20, range/2h can't do anything. After the failed 2h hit, the cooldown time allows the opponent to eat to full health, or kill you, whatever they want. Against mains, the 2H will almost always miss. This way, there might be a chance that a pure can be beaten by a main. There is no attack level where range/2h becomes good. With high str and attack, it means a high combat level. At a high combat level, it means you will be facing people with an even higher def. So against mains, range/2h is useless, and against pures, you will be slaughtered with a scim.
Str pure - You see a pure, they pull out their scim, it's a fair 1v1. You see someone with def, you die or you run like hell.
Mage pure - Fire blast is both weak and slow. Hitting 16s every few seconds is next to no damage at all. Let's look at low lvls. A lvl 55 mage, a lvl 55 ranger, and a lvl 55 str pure. The 55 mage hits max of 16 every few seconds. The 55 ranger hits constant 16s. The str pure hits up to 20 almost as fast as the ranger hits. Even against mains, mage pures are useless. The main will be hitting you more than you will be hitting him. That totally defeats the purpose of a pure.
This is the perfect build for a f2p pure:
Attack - 40
Strength - 80
Range - 80
Prayer - 44
Magic - 60+
80 str is the highest str you need to beat other pures. At 70 str, you will be dealing high dps than lobsters can heal when constantly eating. When I was a lvl 55 BHer with 72 str, I always kept people in an eating lock, because once they stopped eating for a second, they would die. Since I damaged them faster than they could heal, they died eventually. I never really had to eat in fights unless going against another pure with the same build as me, then it's about whoever gets in an eating lock first. With 80 str, you will be killing faster than swordies can heal.
80 range is necessary because it's the most you can have without leveling. You will still be melee based, but only by a slim amount. So stay 80 range to not get levels. 80 range will be wreaking havoc on 99 defers, so there's not much more to ask.
44 prayer is debated amongst people inexperienced with pures, but if you ask any pure veteran, he will tell you that 44 prayer is essential. With 44 pray, you will be hitting a lot better than you would have been if you just have higher base stats. Plus you get protection prayers as well. Protection prayers give you the best defense for the amount of combat that 44 prayer gives you. 44 prayer gives you 5 cb. Which is the same amount as 20 def. Mith barely does anything, protection prayers save your butt.
60+ mage is for binding. Although you learn bind at 20 mage, it's only at 60+ mage where it starts to not splash.
There is still a lot of variance in what equipment to use even within experienced pures. This is what I found to be the best possible set:
Amulet of power
Monk robe top
200 Adamant arrows
2 Anchovie pizzas
|Posted by: emad559 Oct 4 2008, 01:02 PM|
|Wow nice guide but you made range 2hers seem awfull they're actually good.|
|Posted by: rsw armoury Oct 4 2008, 02:01 PM|
|Trust me, range/2h is awful. In low level crater, I've made about 300 kills (250 rogue on highscores). I sell my loot once a week, at one point, I had 2k+ addies and 20+ 2h's in my bank. I've never had any trouble against range/2h. The only hard opponents are pure str. The only time I ever died in BH was against a str pure.|
|Posted by: damon Oct 4 2008, 02:22 PM|
.....range 2h owns... ive made every type of pure..... every... the best 3 so far are full out tanks.. (high def range and mage), str mages (high strength and mage) and range 2h.... the best pure is actually str mage.... but in f2p its range 2h... plus im a high level range 2h... and hell no 75 range doesnt hit like 99 attack.. i got 85 range and not even with pray it hits like 99 attack... range 2h owns all in no armor fights.
|Posted by: death Oct 4 2008, 02:38 PM|
| pures aside i plan on pwning in the new wildy nothin will stop meh ^^
|Posted by: rsw armoury Oct 4 2008, 04:44 PM|
Range/2h in f2p is impractical in wars and pking.
In 1v1s vs other pures is the only time that range/2h is used at all. Since range/2hers don't use prayer, their dps will be much lower than that of a str pure. Range cannot put someone in an eating lock nearly as well as melee can. Unless the opponent eats at like 10 hp, range/2h can't do anything. Switching to a 2h hit will only help your opponent.
So basically, range/2h has no purpose whatsoever in wars, and it's only on par in 1v1s.
|Posted by: Upperninety8 Oct 4 2008, 10:25 PM|
Range/2h isnt impractical. High range will do better to lower an opponents hp because it hits faster. Then the 2h for an easy KO.
This topic isnt about wars. In wars you wouldnt see people pulling out a 2h. But believe me, range in wars does make a difference idc if you're pure or main. Obviously you wouldnt be using the 2h much in wars, because the whole point of a 2h is to ko someone in a 1v1...
That aside... High defence doesnt make you a bad pker. I look forward to the update, but i don't regret my defence at all
|Posted by: 3monightmar3 Oct 5 2008, 04:02 AM|
|hey ppls i decided 2 glue this topic since i imsagined that with so many ppl working on pures itd be handy having up top|
|Posted by: Wellycraft24 Oct 5 2008, 11:09 AM|
| Okay, Thanks for the opinions.
And Nightmare Thanks for Glue!
I have a level 44 Strength pure and I must say it's one of the best Pures I have ever made. I might turn him into a range 2her but it may take a while as I'm only 41 range.
|Posted by: 3monightmar3 Oct 5 2008, 04:02 PM|
|hey i just thought i'd announce that i started a new pure yesterday...currently lvl 5 i believe-3 att 5 str 1 def 3 ran 3 mag 7 pray 10hp!!! yes i know its ownage|
|Posted by: damon Oct 5 2008, 07:40 PM|
|make them skillers first|
|Posted by: Kevinsaurus Oct 5 2008, 07:56 PM|
| my friend's got this kool lvl 40 something str pure... he's at like 61 str now... says he'll be able to get it up to 80 in a matter of months... which is really kool... i feel kinda bad for him though lol he accidentally lvled up def to lvl 2 at the beginning... but he decided to keep it
oh yea and i'm wondering how str pures succeed in like wildy? cuz with low defense won't they like always get hit and like die easily?
|Posted by: damon Oct 5 2008, 08:03 PM|
|1 def pures were only good against other 1 def pures.. a main comes along a they cant hit the main.... so rune pures are generally the best for main vs pure and pure vs pure action..|
|Posted by: Wellycraft24 Oct 7 2008, 03:01 PM|
| Ok, In my time I have killed a lot of range 2hers..But a lot of that was in multi.
In Single I haven't killed one.
Range 2hers are meant for single combat. Not for multi.
|Posted by: punyruny Nov 6 2008, 03:51 PM|
| k the best pure is a hybrid (mage, melle and range) how to make 1:
-f2p get him 40 atk, 70str (mage optional atm)
-p2p get him 60atk and like 80str
-buy cannon, train til 80 range ( less hp, more room for str lvls )
-then get like 82 mage for ancients(dont use any atk spells cause of hp, only alch, superheat, weakening stuff and bind)
ull be around lvl 65-70 (not sure)
that my friends is a pwnage pure.
|Posted by: Gwenety Nov 14 2008, 02:51 PM|
|I used to mainly range/ancient spells wearing magic robes in p2p wild... worked out really great in 10-20 wildy.. but now on I'm just gonna focus on ranged cus of these new dragon bolts that hits like crazy|
|Posted by: Granlee0 Dec 1 2008, 12:37 AM|
|Range 2h's are good for a quick fight where you can KO without using much food. Range 2h's can't fight long dragged out battles because they take too much damage against other types of pures/mains (melee mostly) and would run out of food before the other person. As for the new wildy I think it's a cheap knock off of the old one... The drops are bs... How can you kill a guy in full rune and only get an addy square and a hundred body runes? My friend killed a guy with full Guthans and got a rune plate, 2 lobsters, and a strength potion.|
|Posted by: 3monightmar3 Dec 3 2008, 03:44 PM|
|yeh, i dislike that too-gotten many kills in pvp but only made lyk 20k total cash|
|Posted by: Srjiglestik Dec 7 2008, 11:58 PM|
|great guide except i dont have the time or patience|
|Posted by: craiglock1 Jan 7 2009, 05:13 PM|
when i go bk on rs after everything wit school is done, ima work on a pure as well.. they sound kl..
|Posted by: lordblack656 Feb 10 2009, 09:19 PM|
| mage pures ftw! thats where its at right there u cant beat a mage they pwn all, of course uve gotta have def and prayer though too. that combination unbeatable baby!
|Posted by: rsw armoury Feb 11 2009, 12:20 AM|
|Posted by: starwolf_ftw Feb 11 2009, 12:29 AM|
My thought exactly RSW. Are you going on a rant or something black about how mage pures are the best? I am completely confudled by this magnitude of nonsense.
|Posted by: Kerkennah Feb 11 2009, 12:38 AM|
| pures are great and fun
at low levels, mage owns
|Posted by: Prophecy Feb 15 2009, 02:09 AM|
| one of the best pures in the game is dreamrat......
im a tank pure im going for 9
ima a tank pure
|Posted by: Prophecy Feb 15 2009, 02:12 AM|
| one of the best pures in the game is dreamrat......
im a tank pure im going for
60 def wouldnt be bad but that is best combo
|Posted by: rsw armoury Feb 15 2009, 02:39 AM|
I never heard of dreamrat before
|Posted by: Prophecy Feb 15 2009, 02:59 AM|
|search dream rat3 he has everythin 99 def is 20 tho|
|Posted by: rsw armoury Feb 15 2009, 04:11 AM|
|post vid plz. When I searched on youtube, I just got a lot of his junk vids. Idk why he would show those.|
|Posted by: Prophecy Feb 15 2009, 04:43 AM|
| just have to look around there awsom
|Posted by: rsw armoury Feb 15 2009, 01:30 PM|
| like I only found these vids of him:
can't find his good ones tho
|Posted by: Kerkennah Feb 15 2009, 01:51 PM|
i'll look for some for you, he didn't really post on youtube, his videos were awesome
all his vid's are listed
|Posted by: rsw armoury Feb 15 2009, 02:12 PM|
|er really? oh|
|Posted by: 3monightmar3 May 1 2009, 06:59 AM|
| RSW...y did u leave us... ='(
(sry if this is a little off topic but i need 2 no!)
|Posted by: naruto o14 Jul 25 2009, 06:31 PM|
|Which is better ranged 2h or a tank?????????????|