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Animal - August 5, 2009 03:44 AM (GMT)
Well, with Kev going to be not very active at all come school time, I think we need to discuss new backup/temporary/extra etc warlords.
Two possibilities come to mind for me... Dager, although as a full time sniper that would be hard, and Tom, although he'd need a bit of training.
So... discussion topic!
Post here if you have anyone in mind, or, if you think you have experience and we don't know about it. :P

gravedigg158 - August 5, 2009 03:47 AM (GMT)
i vote me :)

Animal - August 5, 2009 03:51 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (gravedigg158 @ Aug 4 2009, 10:47 PM)
i vote me :)

Nice work telling us about your experiences so we can see if you've done good jobs in the past and can make an accurate decision on you. :)

gravedigg158 - August 5, 2009 04:05 AM (GMT)
***EDIT*** added this
Runescape name:gravedigg158
Combat level:120 free 126 p2p
Time in the clan:about 3 months i think
After Lamb Bug dies, it will be your job, along with other warlords, to lead the clan. Do you have experience leading a clan in wars?LOTS see below
What new ideas, strategies, and techniques would you bring to improve the clan's warring performance?im really liking the contests that we do for the combat skills that gets alot of us to up our skills ALOT in a small amount of time. instead of having random war preps, get a time thats good for most of us and have one every other day or so, and whenever some people need somethin to do we can just head to clan wars worlds and war random people for fun. doing that enough would get everybody the experience to choose what role best fits them in a war. some strategies and tactics for wars such as having a few go ahead and lure the enemy to us where we all have a fire blast to just completely scare/seperate/kill one right off the bat. could flank em :) ...it works well.....yeah, i used to war alot..







lol...back in the good ol days of the Z syndicate i was the warlord...thats way back before clan wars and all this safe stuff.....clan was about 50 members strong and was 90+...i was the warlord and led the clan on all pks and wars...back when it was still "stand and fight" and not all this running around and tanking lol...wars were pretty common and they on the minimap they looked like 2 dots next to eachother and we stood and fought and died rofl...towards the end of the clan the tanking thing started commin out and we got ahang of that pretty quick. our rangers did the same thing we did today...pretty much doin their own thing, helping on piles and takin out guys in robes when they put em on or whatever. then when our leader faked his death....irl...yeah its weird i know...some of us broke off and made a pking/warring clan called purveyors of evil, in which iwas again the warlord, my buddy and i agreed that he would lead and id be the warlord yet again...ALL we did in that clan was pk and war, it was just how it was...then alot of people just stopped playing so we formed a small group of us called blades of chaos, there was about 6-8 of us. we were good pkers in f2p...not the best at p2p tho :( . we pked and held small wars and fun wars..then we all just kinda got busy with stuff and we went our own ways...then i started playin rs again and ALOT changed, hybrids were all popular and such, and clan wars, came out and BH came out and PKING was dead...it was sad :( but when clan wars was brought out me and some old buddies just did CW for the longest time....and here i am :)

Animal - August 5, 2009 04:33 AM (GMT)
It doesn't really apply to this, but I found the old warlord application form from way back.
So though I might as well put it here to get a good idea of some people's skills.

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[b]Runescape name:[/b]
[b]Combat level:[/b]
[b]Time in the clan:[/b]
[b]After Lamb Bug dies, it will be your job, along with other warlords, to lead the clan.  Do you have experience leading a clan in wars?[/b]
[b]What new ideas, strategies, and techniques would you bring to improve the clan's warring performance?[/b]

Hellbound487 - August 5, 2009 04:34 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (gravedigg158 @ Aug 4 2009, 09:05 PM)
lol...back in the good ol days of the Z syndicate i was the warlord...thats way back before clan wars and all this safe stuff.....clan was about 50 members strong and was 90+...i was the warlord and led the clan on all pks and wars...back when it was still "stand and fight" and not all this running around and tanking lol...wars were pretty common and they on the minimap they looked like 2 dots next to eachother and we stood and fought and died rofl...towards the end of the clan the tanking thing started commin out and we got ahang of that pretty quick. our rangers did the same thing we did today...pretty much doin their own thing, helping on piles and takin out guys in robes when they put em on or whatever. then when our leader faked his death....irl...yeah its weird i know...some of us broke off and made a pking/warring clan called purveyors of evil, in which iwas again the warlord, my buddy and i agreed that he would lead and id be the warlord yet again...ALL we did in that clan was pk and war, it was just how it was...then alot of people just stopped playing so we formed a small group of us called blades of chaos, there was about 6-8 of us. we were good pkers in f2p...not the best at p2p tho :( . we pked and held small wars and fun wars..then we all just kinda got busy with stuff and we went our own ways...then i started playin rs again and ALOT changed, hybrids were all popular and such, and clan wars, came out and BH came out and PKING was dead...it was sad :( but when clan wars was brought out me and some old buddies just did CW for the longest time....and here i am :)

i vote for grave <3

Animal - August 5, 2009 05:30 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (gravedigg158 @ Aug 4 2009, 11:05 PM)
***EDIT*** added this
Runescape name:gravedigg158
Combat level:120 free 126 p2p
Time in the clan:about 3 months i think
After Lamb Bug dies, it will be your job, along with other warlords, to lead the clan. Do you have experience leading a clan in wars?LOTS see below
What new ideas, strategies, and techniques would you bring to improve the clan's warring performance?im really liking the contests that we do for the combat skills that gets alot of us to up our skills ALOT in a small amount of time. instead of having random war preps, get a time thats good for most of us and have one every other day or so, and whenever some people need somethin to do we can just head to clan wars worlds and war random people for fun. doing that enough would get everybody the experience to choose what role best fits them in a war. some strategies and tactics for wars such as having a few go ahead and lure the enemy to us where we all have a fire blast to just completely scare/seperate/kill one right off the bat. could flank em :) ...it works well.....yeah, i used to war alot..

Didn't have to edit that in, but it helps, thanks. :P

Icewolf68 - August 5, 2009 06:30 AM (GMT)
What about Kerk? He's not very active atm as he is on vacation, but he's back for the start of school in the coming weeks. I know he has great experience in leading wars as I have witnessed.

Kerk for Warlord plawks!@@!@!


ice

Animal - August 5, 2009 06:47 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Icewolf68 @ Aug 5 2009, 01:30 AM)
What about Kerk? He's not very active atm as he is on vacation, but he's back for the start of school in the coming weeks. I know he has great experience in leading wars as I have witnessed.

Kerk for Warlord plawks!@@!@!


ice

Exactly that, inactivity.

Sick Mate 9 - August 5, 2009 07:34 AM (GMT)
grave :wub: :)


but i reckon we should also have a warlord that can attend the aussie wars if they are actually gonna happen aswell

65dragon3 - August 5, 2009 07:44 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Sick Mate 9 @ Aug 5 2009, 02:34 AM)
grave :wub: :)


but i reckon we should also have a warlord that can attend the aussie wars if they are actually gonna happen aswell

+1 a warlord should attend all wars XD

Tomas_Speed - August 5, 2009 07:52 AM (GMT)
Well before you guys decide take this into consideration.

1 - A warlord is someone respected and known among the members, which knows the own clan and his allies well, as well as other clans as well.

2 - Someone who is a Warlord cant "bind" or "snipe" or anything like that, since it will make your calling worse. Also as warlord you are most sure to be some of the first piles so you cant have unnecessary loads.

3 - Warlord is a experienced caller which takes desicions on the spot, its experience in warring is what makes his calling better.

4 - A Warlord needs to be quite active on the cc to accept/refuse short preparation offers.

As you can see just the 1 and 2 and 3 make me unfit for the job. So good luck on however you choose. :)

P.S. Whatever warlord gets choosen take a look on my warring guides to edit them on what you see fit.

Animal - August 5, 2009 08:22 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Tomas_Speed @ Aug 5 2009, 02:52 AM)
Well before you guys decide take this into consideration.

1 - A warlord is someone respected and known among the members, which knows the own clan and his allies well, as well as other clans as well.

2 - Someone who is a Warlord cant "bind" or "snipe" or anything like that, since it will make your calling worse. Also as warlord you are most sure to be some of the first piles so you cant have unnecessary loads.

3 - Warlord is a experienced caller which takes desicions on the spot, its experience in warring is what makes his calling better.

4 - A Warlord needs to be quite active on the cc to accept/refuse short preparation offers.

As you can see just the 1 and 2 and 3 make me unfit for the job. So good luck on however you choose. :)

P.S. Whatever warlord gets choosen take a look on my warring guides to edit them on what you see fit.

I can assure you you're perfect for number 1. :)

Imso Hot - August 5, 2009 10:52 AM (GMT)
Meh for warlord agen!


Not, i wouldnt even want to be warlord anymore if i would get chosen, i like ranging and binding more :wub:

Tomas_Speed - August 5, 2009 12:16 PM (GMT)
Well since we are on the subject, why only have 1 warlord...? If im not mistaken there were times where it existed more than 1 wl. Also if we have more than 1 warlord it will be easier at wars since when the original dies the other wl could take over.

Just a suggestion. :)

Kevinsaurus - August 5, 2009 02:16 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Tomas_Speed @ Aug 5 2009, 07:16 AM)
Well since we are on the subject, why only have 1 warlord...? If im not mistaken there were times where it existed more than 1 wl. Also if we have more than 1 warlord it will be easier at wars since when the original dies the other wl could take over.

Just a suggestion. :)

true that tom... i'll just be "inactive" =P doesn't mean i'm not still a warlord for al in the upcoming months... year >.<...

and tom i think you would do well, just need a bit of training ;)

and grave that's a good background and a ton of experience... how comes it with what we do nowadays tho? =P

Icewolf68 - August 5, 2009 02:57 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Animal @ Aug 5 2009, 01:47 AM)
QUOTE (Icewolf68 @ Aug 5 2009, 01:30 AM)
What about Kerk? He's not very active atm as he is on vacation, but he's back for the start of school in the coming weeks. I know he has great experience in leading wars as I have witnessed.

Kerk for Warlord plawks!@@!@!


ice

Exactly that, inactivity.

What didn't you get from what I said? He is inactive for the remaining time Kev is Warlord, then when Kev goes back to school, Kerk is back from vacation and ready to be warlord


ice

Tomas_Speed - August 5, 2009 03:06 PM (GMT)
Since some people have been asking me to post a warlord application, here goes... (If i dont get accepted its fine, im just happy to war :P)

Runescape name: Tomas Speed

Combat level: 104 +5

Time in the clan: Not long, (another reason why i shoudnt be accepted) About 1 and a half month.

After Lamb Bug dies, it will be your job, along with other warlords, to lead the clan. Do you have experience leading a clan in wars?

This takes me to reason 2, why i shoudnt be accepted. Ive been to alot of wars, way before the clan wars, however i was never a warlord. I am familiar with warring and what it stands for, i know most things that happen in a war and how to counter them, However most of this knowledge is on paper only, and since ive never been an warlord, my real "warlord" experience isnt that much. I am aware of the responsabilities that comes with being a warlord, this includes being an example, respectfull and friendly, regardess of loss or win.

What new ideas, strategies, and techniques would you bring to improve the clan's warring performance?

Well me, Kevin and Lit introduced fake piles to the clan, which i belive it can helps us in some time or another, ive also made (along with kevin and kerks help) 4 clan warring guides which i think will improve our warring performance. Ive hosted some clan war practices which i think helped some of our lower level clan mates be familiar with the "war" concept. I also try to review everything that went wrong after every war so we can improve it in the future. I also try my best to make suggestions about our warring so that we might get better. Im also always open to comments about my performance in any war and ways of how to improve it.

I insist on adding this extra piece of info...

I dont really want to be a full time warlord, as for many reasons i think i woundt be up to the job, however im not unconfortable with the idea of a backup warlord as i dont mind staying in the bentch. I would just be glad to do so because i like to be involved in our warring department, since some times when kevin dies in a war we get kinda "stupid" not knowing what to do. With a backup warlod (i dont care if its me or anyone else) we could have more organization, because if our warlord died we would still have another one to lead, also the warlord who died could have a better look on the war and tell us what to do via the cc (who to pile/snipe), thus making our piling & snipping department better.

Also keep in mind Kevin isnt leaving the clan or his posicion, so hes STILL warlord, so theres absolutely NO reason replace to him :no:.

As for the Kerk matter, it would be just wrong to say he shoudnt be a warlord just because hes away, so lets not get into that.


Thank you :)

gravedigg158 - August 5, 2009 06:20 PM (GMT)
lol i mean wars nowadays coz wars werent always like how they are now with tanking and hugging and such. if anybodys played for a while they might remember wars in the deep wildy with 20-40 people for each clan when you would look at them on the minimap it looked like 2 dots but it was two dd's and people just in full rune piling one person...not much to it at all..no running or anything. so thats what i mean by nowadays lol, wars these days are WAY funner than back then coz theres more to it than just standing and dying.

Tomas_Speed - August 5, 2009 06:40 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (gravedigg158 @ Aug 5 2009, 01:20 PM)
WAY funner than back then coz theres more to it than just standing and dying.

Gotta agree with you on this one grave. Tanking nowadays has become such an important part of warring. Its almost as important as pilling imo.

King Arthur - August 5, 2009 06:49 PM (GMT)
> I'd just like to point out that this is not the official warlord application thread. If we host a warlord application, you'll be able to know more about it on the "News" forum. .

Tomas_Speed - August 5, 2009 07:03 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (King Arthur @ Aug 5 2009, 01:49 PM)
> I'd just like to point out that this is not the official warlord application thread. If we host a warlord application, you'll be able to know more about it on the "News" forum. .

We know Arthur... We also know that golden didnt even agree to this yet so nothing is official.

Its was more like suggestions, than a real warlord application topic.


Imso Hot - August 5, 2009 09:40 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (gravedigg158 @ Aug 5 2009, 09:20 PM)
if anybodys played for a while they might remember wars in the deep wildy with 20-40 people for each clan when you would look at them on the minimap it looked like 2 dots but it was two dd's and people just in full rune piling one person...

20-40? I remember having wars with 400+ opts which is 130-140 people ;)

And back then there was no tanking, at least to what ive been in wars, the 99 deffers maybe survive 5 secs but otherwise its instant ko, especially (well maybe cause we were good so we fought good clans) when the clans we fought have 110% organization

Dude12dragon - August 5, 2009 09:51 PM (GMT)
I was thinking of applying but wait im all ready Ec and with tom in i got no chance lol :)




TOMAS SPEED FOR WARLORD WE HAVE FREE COOKIES!!!!!!!!!!! :)

Lit - August 5, 2009 10:57 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Tomas_Speed @ Aug 5 2009, 09:16 AM)
Well since we are on the subject, why only have 1 warlord...? If im not mistaken there were times where it existed more than 1 wl. Also if we have more than 1 warlord it will be easier at wars since when the original dies the other wl could take over.

Just a suggestion. :)

Because back in the day Damon, Imso and Kerk were our Warlords, with Emad being kind of a "backup". What happened? They quit. Kevin was the only possible choice for Warlord after Dager left too, as no one else knew how to war here.

-1 to Tomas for Warlord. We need you binding Tom. Also no offense but I'd rather have someone with more experience. :)

Tomas_Speed - August 5, 2009 11:01 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Lit @ Aug 5 2009, 05:57 PM)
QUOTE (Tomas_Speed @ Aug 5 2009, 09:16 AM)
Well since we are on the subject, why only have 1 warlord...? If im not mistaken there were times where it existed more than 1 wl. Also if we have more than 1 warlord it will be easier at wars since when the original dies the other wl could take over.

Just a suggestion. :)

Because back in the day Damon, Imso and Kerk were our Warlords, with Emad being kind of a "backup". What happened? They quit. Kevin was the only possible choice for Warlord after Dager left too, as no one else knew how to war here.

-1 to Tomas for Warlord. We need you binding Tom. Also no offense but I'd rather have someone with more experience. :)

Not offended at all, i have been saying that from the start ^_^

Also i didnt really wasnt here on the time of Mafic Inc. so i didnt was really into the all warlords leaving subject.

Animal - August 6, 2009 06:50 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Icewolf68 @ Aug 5 2009, 09:57 AM)
QUOTE (Animal @ Aug 5 2009, 01:47 AM)
QUOTE (Icewolf68 @ Aug 5 2009, 01:30 AM)
What about Kerk? He's not very active atm as he is on vacation, but he's back for the start of school in the coming weeks. I know he has great experience in leading wars as I have witnessed.

Kerk for Warlord plawks!@@!@!


ice

Exactly that, inactivity.

What didn't you get from what I said? He is inactive for the remaining time Kev is Warlord, then when Kev goes back to school, Kerk is back from vacation and ready to be warlord


ice

And what didn't you get about what I said?
He's inactive atm and if we're going to succeed we need to start working on this now, and training up people/seeing who fits the discription.
I agree Kerk would be could, but until he's back we need to look for other suitable people, for more flexibility.

Tomas_Speed - August 6, 2009 11:23 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Animal @ Aug 6 2009, 01:50 AM)
QUOTE (Icewolf68 @ Aug 5 2009, 09:57 AM)
QUOTE (Animal @ Aug 5 2009, 01:47 AM)
QUOTE (Icewolf68 @ Aug 5 2009, 01:30 AM)
What about Kerk? He's not very active atm as he is on vacation, but he's back for the start of school in the coming weeks. I know he has great experience in leading wars as I have witnessed.

Kerk for Warlord plawks!@@!@!


ice

Exactly that, inactivity.

What didn't you get from what I said? He is inactive for the remaining time Kev is Warlord, then when Kev goes back to school, Kerk is back from vacation and ready to be warlord


ice

And what didn't you get about what I said?
He's inactive atm and if we're going to succeed we need to start working on this now, and training up people/seeing who fits the discription.
I agree Kerk would be could, but until he's back we need to look for other suitable people, for more flexibility.

Instead of making this wild suggestions, maybe we should ask golden or lamb what they think about this, and if they agree with this we could ask them to post an warlord selection topic, because as Arthur said, this topic isnt leading to anything besides a discussion. If you really want something done ask the leaders to see what they think about this. :)

Dylan - August 7, 2009 06:36 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Tomas_Speed @ Aug 6 2009, 09:23 PM)
Instead of making this wild suggestions, maybe we should ask golden or lamb what they think about this, and if they agree with this we could ask them to post an warlord selection topic, because as Arthur said, this topic isnt leading to anything besides a discussion. If you really want something done ask the leaders to see what they think about this. :)

you do realise NO decisions are final without the leaders input, and were just brain storming people..

Tomas_Speed - August 7, 2009 07:54 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Dylan @ Aug 7 2009, 01:36 AM)
QUOTE (Tomas_Speed @ Aug 6 2009, 09:23 PM)
Instead of making this wild suggestions, maybe we should ask golden or lamb what they think about this, and if they agree with this we could ask them to post an warlord selection topic,  because as Arthur said, this topic isnt leading to anything besides a discussion. If you really want something done ask the leaders to see what they think about this. :)

you do realise NO decisions are final without the leaders input, and were just brain storming people..

Lolz what did i just say? ^_^

Dylan - August 7, 2009 11:03 AM (GMT)
im sayin EVERYONE knows the leaders have the final say, so theres no point posting about it

Sick Mate 9 - August 9, 2009 10:15 AM (GMT)
you tell em dylan :P

Tomas_Speed - August 9, 2009 10:16 AM (GMT)
Just let imso be warlord again :P

Dylan - August 10, 2009 08:13 AM (GMT)
here here!

stingster2 - August 10, 2009 02:04 PM (GMT)
hey guys just so you know my idea on this would be to have warlord tryouts where we split the clan in half and have warlords try out in wars and see if they are good enough. i think it will help with the choosing because you can see if they are cappable and everyone gets warring practice. + you can see if they really are any good instead of just making them write about them selves you can see them perform.
thats my idea. :D
~sting

Imso Hot - August 10, 2009 05:37 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (stingster2 @ Aug 10 2009, 05:04 PM)
hey guys just so you know my idea on this would be to have warlord tryouts where we split the clan in half and have warlords try out in wars and see if they are good enough. i think it will help with the choosing because you can see if they are cappable and everyone gets warring practice. + you can see if they really are any good instead of just making them write about them selves you can see them perform.
thats my idea. :D
~sting

Sorry but just no

We have capable people for the job and Lamb and Golden knows it, this isnt needed

stingster2 - August 11, 2009 12:17 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Imso Hot @ Aug 10 2009, 12:37 PM)
QUOTE (stingster2 @ Aug 10 2009, 05:04 PM)
hey guys just so you know my idea on this would be to have warlord tryouts where we split the clan in half and have warlords try out in wars and see if they are good enough. i think it will help with the choosing because you can see if they are cappable and everyone gets warring practice. + you can see if they really are any good instead of just making them write about them selves you can see them perform.
thats my idea. :D
~sting

Sorry but just no

We have capable people for the job and Lamb and Golden knows it, this isnt needed

first of all. i am not saying lamb and golden cant pick warlords. im saying it can help with the picking.

Lit - August 11, 2009 02:47 AM (GMT)
Lamb and Golden have seen almost everyone war, they sure know who is good and who isn't. As Imso said, such thing is not needed.

gravedigg158 - August 11, 2009 03:38 AM (GMT)
why dont we just...ask them what they want to do?

Lamb Bug - August 11, 2009 11:54 AM (GMT)
Well, when we war, we do watch the candidates. For example, after the main warlord dies, who starts calling. :)

Not sure when these will be announced; we might do a few more wars.




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