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Title: Obama, the world, etc.
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Ritalin11 - April 3, 2009 12:18 AM (GMT)
Tell me what you think of our president. Can be anything, war, anything.

Can also talk about happenings. no rules.

No offence to yall, but i think he is a dumb [BEEP]. He met with the leader of Israel today, and that man is going to tell him, in a political way of course, you dumb chicago political [BEEP].

Israel has been practicing bombing runs to the Turkey area for a while now. They are getting ready to beat the hell out of Iran. They will be using nuclear bunker busters im sure. This will cause the world to ERUPT into a mass of chaos.

We have 2 choices. Run away from the fight, just like Vietnam, or kill them all.

If we run, we are done. We will never be considered a world power ever again.

Intresting.

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The political retards passed a bill today. The treasurey can seize any company they want. what the [BEEP] will that do?....

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Another bill. In the past, you had to disclose any failed assets. For example, you bought for 100 thousand, and it dropped to say 40. You had to disclose that as a failed investment. You no longer do. That means you are now buying blindly.

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Folks, we have to realize we have opened the Pandora's Box of hell. It seems a bunch of people will not get it until we are in the streets with ak - 47s in our hands, fighting for our life.

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Gun Banning. How stupid can you all get?.... It is not the gun's fault that people die. It is the person. I myself have been taught all my life about gun saftey. Find a gun, drop the clip out, check the chamber, make sure it will not hurt anyone. It is the person's fault. To have a consealed weapons licence, you need backround checks and such. They are the smart ones. That is why the police are not afraid of these people.

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Guns. The m 16s are [BEEP], we all know it. It breaks fast. An ak 47 persay, owns. Submerse it in the water, it will fire perfectly. Also, the 9mm weapons are [BEEP]. We need say m14s. That [BEEP] will penetrate what the 9mm will not.

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Thats what i got today guys. Thanks for reading.

If you think some of this you agree on, tell me, or even disagree =]

Golden arm42 - April 3, 2009 12:22 AM (GMT)
Obama is ftw. 'Nuff said. :wub:

Ritalin11 - April 3, 2009 12:24 AM (GMT)
Sigh, golden golden golden. Let me put this in perspective.

We run away from Iraq, like what he is doing. We lose status as world power.

Also, if Israel loses, we are [BEEP]ED. we will be nuked, after israel.


he still ftw???????







obviously it will take say Washington to be nuked till you guys get it huh.....

Golden arm42 - April 3, 2009 12:27 AM (GMT)
We responsibly withdraw from Iraq; we save a bunch of money and get out of a country we shouldn't have invaded in the first place.

Why are we screwed? Anything Iran builds couldn't hit us anyway...and I'm personally not as rah-rah about Israel as some people are.

Ritalin11 - April 3, 2009 12:36 AM (GMT)
This is where my tolerance is at an end, no offence.

We had no reason huh. Okay ill be sure to allow a dictator to ruin a country and torture and [BEEP] thousands upon thousands. :angry: and to wage war due to racial hate.... thats great golden -.-

you obviously haven't been educated about this topic sorry =\. Nothing personal. so you don't give a [BEEP] about israel huh? you don't care about them dying because they are a jewish population DO YOU?!?? nice :angry:

Iran can and will hit us bro. We are not a god country. Its not A nuke its NUKES. Notice the plural. WE can't get them all mate... sorry

oh yeah and about saving money. We sure did that with a 1 trillion dollar bailout that WAS POINTLESS AS HELL.









Golden i hope the above post doesn't make you hate me. Just saying =\.

Golden arm42 - April 3, 2009 12:50 AM (GMT)
Lol, taking this a little seriously, eh? :lol: Don't worry about it; I like debating and "verbally ko-ing" people...and it's coming to you next. :D

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We had no reason huh.  Okay ill be sure to allow a dictator to ruin a country and torture and [BEEP] thousands upon thousands.  :angry: and to wage  war due to racial hate....  thats great golden -.-


If we were to act as the world's policemen and deal with every situation like the one you described, we'd be fighting constant wars on every continent in the world. Let me name some examples: Most countries in Africa, most countries in the Middle East, a lot of countries in Asia (China, Thailand, Burma, Russia, etc.), parts of Latin America...the list goes on and on. Our own "allies" in the Middle East, like Saudi Arabia and Egypt, are certainly not models of democracy or innocent in crackdowns either.

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you obviously haven't been educated about this topic sorry =\. Nothing personal. so you don't give a [BEEP] about israel huh? you don't care about them dying because they are a jewish population DO YOU?!?? nice


Whoa, whoa, whoa. I have lots of Jewish friends, and no, I don't hate Israel. I do think, however, that we give them way too much support. From a nation of the oppressed, they've become hypocritical. They've waged aggressive wars against their neighbors (in violation of international law) to seize land. Now, with the election of Netanyahu, they've become even more extreme. His proposed choice for foreign minister, Avigdor Lieberman, has proposed that all occupants of Israel be forced to take an oath of allegiance to the state. I don't know how much history you've read, but I can tell you that's how it started in Nazi Germany as well: with an oath to follow the state.

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Iran can and will hit us bro. We are not a god country. Its not A nuke its NUKES. Notice the plural. WE can't get them all mate... sorry


At the moment, Iran has a grand total of...0 nukes. If they were to launch them anywhere near us, they'd be wiped off the face of the map. The principle of mutually assured destruction prevented a nuclear war since the end of World War II, and that was with the odds relatively even between the USA and the USSR. It's not even close with Iran.

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oh yeah and about saving money. We sure did that with a 1 trillion dollar bailout that WAS POINTLESS AS HELL.


I'd like to point out that I don't agree with the bailout, but we've spent that much on the Iraq War anyway taking out a dictator who was no threat to us. At least by trying to help the economy we're trying to help out a vital American interest.

Star - April 3, 2009 01:05 AM (GMT)
obama ftw, damn republicans are f'ing up this country
and yea i agree with golden

Golden arm42 - April 3, 2009 01:13 AM (GMT)
Zomg it's Starelement! Are you back for good? :o bannana

K Arthur90 - April 3, 2009 01:29 AM (GMT)
Can I just point out a tiny detail:
AL is international. When you guys say "Our president" or "We have done", it implies it's either that all the members are from the same country, or that this discussion is aimed at north american people mostly.

Despite that,
In my outsider, living on a N.I.country, whose economy is based mainly on ethanol, samba and soccer (:wub:), I must say that until now Obama has been doing a better job one thousand times better than both Bush's. He's managing to interact with other countries at the same level, and not by standing on a stool and saying "Listen up, people! Here's the deal!". He is closer to the population than the Bush were. If I'm not mistaken, when Brazil increased it's sugar-cane ethanol, and offered USA to buy some of it's product, Bush simply increased the corn ethanol production. Obama is on constant contact with both oil extractors and ethanol producers, because he (supposedly) wants to incentivate the other countries to develop new comodities to be offered over the world.

But this is as far as I go. Although Brazil's press does report happenings on USA as well it's interaction with other countries, brazilians can't have the same point of view as north americans, so we can only opinate and suggest. Nothing more ^_^

starwolf_ftw - April 3, 2009 03:18 AM (GMT)
No offense, I see Israel as a country that's trying to manipulate other countries to help itself out. I do feel sorry for the Jews and the Holocost of WWII, but that doesn't mean we owe them everything for eternity. Israel I have seen has used the United Nations to "give" back their homeland... The jews have left Israel for hundreds of years, many have stayed though and have tuffed it out. We do not owe it upon ourselves to return the Jews to their "homeland" after they volunteeringly left it.

I also don't think allying ourselves with Israel as the best decision. The suicide bombings and terrorism that are Israel and the Gaza Strip have been caused by the Palistinian population reacting to another Israli bill or law that gives more power to themselves. That's retaliation, and in some parts of the world it seems fair.

IF Israel falls, the United States will not be in as much trouble as when Israel was a country. Israel only has us as allies for a few reasons... We need them to be closer to Iraq. And Israel will have the United States be their trump card when another country argues with them. "If you don't agree with us, we'll get the big bad U S of A to come and wipe you out." I see Israel as a reluctant alliance that is getting us no where.

About the war effort, if we remove ourselves from Iraq, yes there will be consequences, but the consequences of just starting the war with Iraq are just as dire. War causes economic hardships after every war. Countries will run out of supplies, and the economy will fail. Think of WWI and the Great Depression. I see we might not have something as severe as this, but this is effecting everyone globaly. If we pull out now, we can return to maintaining our country and bringing it back to pre-war health.

I'm from Texas but I didn't like how Bush and the Republican administration didn't do a thing to try to return the economy or even fix it. What we are doing now is shooting in the dark about trying to find a way to return our economy to normalacy. Sure this bail out might not work, but we are trying, and we will keep trying to we get out of this economical crisis we are in.

Lamb Bug - April 3, 2009 12:00 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (starwolf_ftw @ Apr 3 2009, 03:18 AM)
normalacy.

:lol: Technically not a word, but Warren G. Harding thought it was. His campaign motto was "A return to normalcy."

On topic: I think that at this point in Iraq, there is no easy way out. If we were to leave right now, complete civil war would break out within two years. Because we are there, though, many Iraqis who are not really associated with the radical Muslims are still fighting against us, because they want us out and feel that the government we set up is corrupt and unreliable.

I personally think that America continues to ally with Israel because no president dares not to. He needs to collect that 3% Jewish vote in the U.S.

mastaofmelee - April 3, 2009 01:42 PM (GMT)
Time for a break from seriousness!

bannana bannana bannana bannana bannana

Heated political discussions just get people upset. And I don't know enough to add my opinion so dancing bananas it is. :lol:

blompty2 - April 3, 2009 03:38 PM (GMT)

darkwiz665 - April 12, 2009 02:07 AM (GMT)
He's a Muslim Marxist....nuf said.

emad - April 12, 2009 04:23 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Ritalin11 @ Apr 2 2009, 07:18 PM)
Tell me what you think of our president. Can be anything, war, anything.

Can also talk about happenings. no rules.

No offence to yall, but i think he is a dumb [BEEP]. He met with the leader of Israel today, and that man is going to tell him, in a political way of course, you dumb chicago political [BEEP].

Israel has been practicing ing runs to the Turkey area for a while now. They are getting ready to beat the hell out of Iran. They will be using nuclear bunker busters im sure. This will cause the world to ERUPT into a mass of chaos.

We have 2 choices. Run away from the fight, just like Vietnam, or all.

If we run, we are done. We will never be considered a world power ever again.

Intresting.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The political retards passed a bill today. The treasurey can seize any company they want. what the [BEEP] will that do?....

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Another bill. In the past, you had to disclose any failed assets. For example, you bought for 100 thousand, and it dropped to say 40. You had to disclose that as a failed investment. You no longer do. That means you are now buying blindly.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Folks, we have to realize we have opened the Pandora's Box of hell. It seems a bunch of people will not get it until we are in the streets with ak - 47s in our hands, fighting for our life.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Gun Banning. How stupid can you all get?.... It is not the gun's fault that people die. It is the person. I myself have been taught all my life about gun saftey. Find a gun, drop the clip out, check the chamber, make sure it will not hurt anyone. It is the person's fault. To have a consealed weapons licence, you need backround checks and such. They are the smart ones. That is why the police are not afraid of these people.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Guns. The m 16s are [BEEP], we all know it. It breaks fast. An ak 47 persay, owns. Submerse it in the water, it will fire perfectly. Also, the 9mm weapons are [BEEP]. We need say m14s. That [BEEP] will penetrate what the 9mm will not.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Thats what i got today guys. Thanks for reading.

If you think some of this you agree on, tell me, or even disagree =]

Wow the 10 year old knows about politics.

Dude12dragon - April 12, 2009 04:51 AM (GMT)
even though im from canada OBAMA is FTW!!!!! :wub:




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