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Lamb Bug - October 12, 2008 12:12 PM (GMT)
Here we are Damon.

Chuffa - October 12, 2008 12:28 PM (GMT)
I'll repeat here what i said to Lamb in chat so you can all think about it.

I think, if everybody honours the alliance it will be a good thing, it will boost our warring strength, and if we have joint pk teams on the pk worlds it will be beneficial.

But, talking from past experience here, allaiances with people you don't trust can turn bad. I lead Black Dragons a few years ago, allied with a clan i didn't really trusy but my council did, and it led to the fall of the clan.

Our allies, gave DI our pk locations and got us killed alot, they bsed us in wars and made alot of our members jump ship, hence the clan going under.

I'm not saying this will happen but this is just something that could happen. Think about it yeah?

For now, as i don't really know that much about this clan or it's past, and Lamb has told me it's irrelevant, i'll vote yes..

Orichocos - October 12, 2008 12:30 PM (GMT)
This alliance can help us all out in a way...more than Intended.

aliath - October 12, 2008 12:42 PM (GMT)
Tell me, Kid Damon...

What could they possibly do to lead to our downfall if we are allied with them?

NOTHING. It's prejugice and hate, not mistrust that you feel. I was from POR and I received my dose of flaming because of it, even thought I did nothing. think about that.

Orichocos - October 12, 2008 12:52 PM (GMT)
Well in my opinion if Kid Damen doesn't want this to happen then might as well not do it. You see I have noticed something...when there is 1 member in the clan who is against something they usually are the ones that end it. He I am sure will one day come to my clan chat and provoke one of my members into saying something that shouldn't be said... Besides Damen, dont act like a saint, you too once said stuff about Ancient Legion, if you were forgiving why cant I?

Chuffa - October 12, 2008 12:56 PM (GMT)
After speaking to Ori in game, i have to say i wish to change my vote to no. He explained to me what happend in the past, which seems tit for tat to me.

Something about the conversation didn't seem genuine, he wouldn't tell me why he wanted to ally, which to me seems as if he belives we are inferior and have nothing to offer his clan, or he has some other ideas for us, i don't know.

Anyway, after our lengthy conversation i don't think he likes me, and i don't trust him, so i'd like to change my vote to no.

Lamb Bug - October 12, 2008 12:57 PM (GMT)
I agree.

Most of the problems of this clan have come from prejudice and hate, following some misunderstandings.

If we can avoid the prejudice and hate, we can have a whol new chapter of AL characterized by goodwill and friendship with other clans.

Chuffa - October 12, 2008 01:14 PM (GMT)
Alitah is honest honest, i like him and we belives it will work, so i'll leave it at that. Lamb seems to trust it so why not eh?

Upperninety8 - October 12, 2008 01:54 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Chuffa @ Oct 12 2008, 08:14 AM)
Alitah is honest honest, i like him and we belives it will work, so i'll leave it at that. Lamb seems to trust it so why not eh?

You've changed your mind twice :o i think you should stop posting until you've made up your mind.


Imo, it can only benefit the clan if everyone is for it. But it appears not everyone is for it. You should probably make sure the past conflicts (Only from a week or 2 ago) are totally resolved before somethin like this happens.

Chuffa - October 12, 2008 01:58 PM (GMT)
I changed my mind because of a conversation with Ori, although altiah seems to have convinced me. I still feel trepadatious about it though.

Coldsteelx - October 12, 2008 02:06 PM (GMT)
I trust Aliath, I think we should have an alliance with Excessum.
To be honest, I don't like Ori and I don't trust him.

Orichocos - October 12, 2008 02:26 PM (GMT)
Well for one I dont have to answer any questions, but to make you feel better I am acceping to be part of The Three for a lot of reasons, but let me say the ones that you would love to hear Chuffa, for strength, technic, recognition, and more numarios reasons. And if I wouldnt get anything out of it, then why would have accepted. Sometimes its best to use your brain first and find the right pieces before jumping to conclusions...

Chuffa - October 12, 2008 02:29 PM (GMT)
If you answer the exact same question here, why didn't you answer it before?

Orichocos - October 12, 2008 02:36 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Chuffa @ Oct 12 2008, 09:29 AM)
If you answer the exact same question here, why didn't you answer it before?

As I have said before I dont have to answer any questions...

Upperninety8 - October 12, 2008 02:43 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Orichocos @ Oct 12 2008, 09:36 AM)
QUOTE (Chuffa @ Oct 12 2008, 09:29 AM)
If you answer the exact same question here, why didn't you answer it before?

As I have said before I dont have to answer any questions...

Umm im not sure how this would get accepted if you didnt answer anyones questions lol... So imo you do have to answer questions...

Orichocos - October 12, 2008 02:50 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Upperninety8 @ Oct 12 2008, 09:43 AM)
QUOTE (Orichocos @ Oct 12 2008, 09:36 AM)
QUOTE (Chuffa @ Oct 12 2008, 09:29 AM)
If you answer the exact same question here, why didn't you answer it before?

As I have said before I dont have to answer any questions...

Umm im not sure how this would get accepted if you didnt answer anyones questions lol... So imo you do have to answer questions...

Yeah to leaders...not to people from Imperial Forks

aliath - October 12, 2008 02:56 PM (GMT)
I'm glad all of you trust me. I trust Orichocos because he is a friend. I don't see how this could harm any of our clans in any way. Even if he had malicious intent, what could he do? Nothing.

I am saying it again: hate will cloud your vision. I really hope you will think about the positive aspects of this alliance before voting, since there are no negative ones.

Chuffa - October 12, 2008 03:05 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Orichocos @ Oct 12 2008, 09:50 AM)
QUOTE (Upperninety8 @ Oct 12 2008, 09:43 AM)
QUOTE (Orichocos @ Oct 12 2008, 09:36 AM)
QUOTE (Chuffa @ Oct 12 2008, 09:29 AM)
If you answer the exact same question here, why didn't you answer it before?

As I have said before I dont have to answer any questions...

Umm im not sure how this would get accepted if you didnt answer anyones questions lol... So imo you do have to answer questions...

Yeah to leaders...not to people from Imperial Forks

What about the members of THIS clan? If you are to ally with us you can't talk to us like your better than us. It won't win you any freinds.

Lamb Bug - October 12, 2008 03:13 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Orichocos @ Oct 12 2008, 02:50 PM)
QUOTE (Upperninety8 @ Oct 12 2008, 09:43 AM)
QUOTE (Orichocos @ Oct 12 2008, 09:36 AM)
QUOTE (Chuffa @ Oct 12 2008, 09:29 AM)
If you answer the exact same question here, why didn't you answer it before?

As I have said before I dont have to answer any questions...

Umm im not sure how this would get accepted if you didnt answer anyones questions lol... So imo you do have to answer questions...

Yeah to leaders...not to people from Imperial Forks

Chuffa is not from "Imperial Forks".

he is a trusted, well-respected member of AL.

Orichocos - October 12, 2008 03:23 PM (GMT)
In my eyes he is just someone who is trying to get information out of me. Plus I only talk to Leaders, or High Coucil...And let me say something else the poll isnt saying Should we keep SC as allies, its also refering to Ex...Just thought I should remind you...

Chuffa - October 12, 2008 03:26 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Orichocos @ Oct 12 2008, 10:23 AM)
In my eyes he is just someone who is trying to get information out of me. Plus I only talk to Leaders, or High Coucil...And let me say something else the poll isnt saying Should we keep SC as allies, its also refering to Ex...Just thought I should remind you...

That attitude annoys people though. That is what you don't seem to understand, you think because we are 'only' members and not in positions of power we aren't worth your time..

Lest you forget, this is a whole clan vote, not just leaders..

Orichocos - October 12, 2008 03:34 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Chuffa @ Oct 12 2008, 10:26 AM)
QUOTE (Orichocos @ Oct 12 2008, 10:23 AM)
In my eyes he is just someone who is trying to get information out of me. Plus I only talk to Leaders, or High Coucil...And let me say something else the poll isnt saying Should we keep SC as allies, its also refering to Ex...Just thought I should remind you...

That attitude annoys people though. That is what you don't seem to understand, you think because we are 'only' members and not in positions of power we aren't worth your time..

Lest you forget, this is a whole clan vote, not just leaders..

As I have said before this isnt only refering to Sacred Champions, its also refering to Exussm

Coldsteelx - October 12, 2008 04:43 PM (GMT)
Well if the majority vote 'no' then we can arrange an alliance with Excessum and not Sacred Champions.

aliath - October 12, 2008 04:52 PM (GMT)
Orichocos, if you don't want to be a part of this Alliance, say it now. Because your attitude is unacceptable now. Every member is important. What would a clan be without it's members? I am trying to defend you Orichocos but it seems as if you are trying to bring me down with your continuous " the vote is for excessum to".

If any of you have any doubts concerning Excessum, speak now. I'd like to hear your thoughts.

Lamb Bug - October 12, 2008 04:55 PM (GMT)
Come on guys, let's not have this degenerate into a flame war. If Orichocos wants to pull out of this alliance, then he can, and we will not think less of him (REALLY!). If he does, which I hope he doesn't, we can arrange a separate alliance with Excessum.

aliath - October 12, 2008 05:05 PM (GMT)
Legion of Death? The Three sounds like a cooler name, I'd like it if Orichocos didn't pull out of this.

Orichocos - October 12, 2008 05:21 PM (GMT)
I can leave since you guys dont want us, my clan isnt going to beg to be part of this...

Lamb Bug - October 12, 2008 05:34 PM (GMT)
I, for one, want your clan in it. If you leave, it would create hard feelings, and we would destroy everything we have worked for in the past several days. Please stay in. I am not begging you, but I think it would be a great opportunity for mutual benefit.

Over Power5 - October 12, 2008 05:45 PM (GMT)
Id like to see this to stay together

damon - October 12, 2008 06:11 PM (GMT)
i dont want him here and so far he isnt doing anything to change my mind... and remember your voting for the triple alliance not alliance with ex... so if u just want ex, and not sc... dont vote yes......

Lamb Bug - October 12, 2008 06:25 PM (GMT)
Damon, people know that.

Give a good reason why we shouldn't put this behind us and turn over a new page in AL's history.

aliath - October 12, 2008 06:42 PM (GMT)
Overpower, make your siggy less wide.

second of all, Orichocos stays in the Alliance. period. the majority have voted and they said yes. I suggest we close this topic and get on with it.

Orichocos - October 12, 2008 06:44 PM (GMT)
I am really deciding not to continue this Alliance anymore, well for one if Kid Damon has to act like a Jerk to get a point across then that is just sad. Second there is no point for Kid Damon to flame like a little girl towards my members...

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I didnt copy the rest because I loged out, but I then later asked:

"Why are you here" - Orichocos
"Dont [BEEP] with me early in the morning" - Kid
"I dont know why I am in my clans cc" - Kid
"So deal with it"
You were kicked...

I am suggested in Kid being Demoted...

EDIT:

Kid you arent a Saint ok, if I remember you wanted Ancient Legion dead in the past...why are you acting like you worshiped them during your 10year old life?

aliath - October 12, 2008 07:01 PM (GMT)
Orichocos, stay. We will solve this problem.

Kid Damon, you are aloud to state your opinion and you can vote. You did that, now stop trying to influence the others vote.

Over Power5 - October 12, 2008 07:01 PM (GMT)
:blink: ,o ya aliath if u use firefox tho it shows up 1 after the other not like it does on internet explore srry

Upperninety8 - October 12, 2008 07:14 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Orichocos @ Oct 12 2008, 09:50 AM)
QUOTE (Upperninety8 @ Oct 12 2008, 09:43 AM)
QUOTE (Orichocos @ Oct 12 2008, 09:36 AM)
QUOTE (Chuffa @ Oct 12 2008, 09:29 AM)
If you answer the exact same question here, why didn't you answer it before?

As I have said before I dont have to answer any questions...

Umm im not sure how this would get accepted if you didnt answer anyones questions lol... So imo you do have to answer questions...

Yeah to leaders...not to people from Imperial Forks

Oh how long has clanning been a dictatorship?

I believe things will go much smoother if Ocrichocos gets his head out of his [BEEP] and pays attention to what the members think not just his own disires.

Lamb Bug - October 12, 2008 07:19 PM (GMT)
Wow, you both are behaving like little girls who haven't taken their nap.


Damon, you get a vote, and have a right to express your opinions, but if Ori wasn't doing anything wrong, and you kick him and flame him, that is not okay!

Ori, just because one member is rather vocal in his dislike, that doesn't mean that you have to run like a sissy and drop out of the alliance.

Over Power5 - October 12, 2008 07:22 PM (GMT)
i want nap time again :holiday:

aliath - October 12, 2008 07:37 PM (GMT)
In my honest opinion I think it is to late for Sacred Champions to be a part of this alliance. Alot of people voted no anyways.

Lamb Bug, I'd like for you to close this poll. Could you please make one asking your members if they would like to be allied with Excessum?

Thanks,
-Aliath-

Over Power5 - October 12, 2008 07:38 PM (GMT)
in this 1 only 13 voted and 4 said no... ;l and kid is acting up again




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