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Redup2 - October 9, 2008 09:54 PM (GMT)
I didnt see a format so Im just gonna put on the essentials

Clan Name:Imperial Forces

Forum: imperialforce.ipbfree.com

Runehead: http://runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=redup2

Rules: Fullout, No Allies, No Cap, Melee/Range/Bind,Classic Arena, Center Boundary

Date/Time: Saturday October 18th, 3pm EST

steven917 - October 10, 2008 12:57 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Redup2 @ Oct 9 2008, 04:54 PM)
I didnt see a format so Im just gonna put on the essentials

Clan Name:Imperial Forces

Forum: imperialforce.ipbfree.com

Runehead: http://runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=redup2

Rules: Fullout, No Allies, No Cap, Melee/Range/Bind,Classic Arena, Center Boundary

Date/Time: Saturday October 18th, 3pm EST

Wait for a leader or someone to accept it or something, just in case no body does.

(You remember me :P )

Lamb Bug - October 10, 2008 12:39 PM (GMT)
Sorry, you're 85+ and we're 60+. ROFL.

No cap = no fair = no fight.


Redup2 - October 10, 2008 07:19 PM (GMT)
Wanna suggest a cap then?

damon - October 10, 2008 11:27 PM (GMT)
no hell no... full out no cap... lamb stop bulling around.. im tired of this.. people underestimating us... people think al is just a pushover noob clan. Im tired of this.. im not war leader of a noob clan... thats all i know... and i think its time to show them.. but to do it im gonna need FULL support for this clan, and after we beat IF people will no longer see us as a pushover clan. I think its about time for me to do a part as warleader anyways. I wanna show people al is no noobs and that we have what it takes to not only hang with the 80+ clans, but we are better. Now the question is how many of you can make this war? i want full response and participation... what time can fit the majority of our members?

Donovan Kays - October 10, 2008 11:38 PM (GMT)
I can make Saturday Sunday Monday all next weekend and same for next.

Times for me are 3-6 PM EST
Hope everyone shows up :D

steven917 - October 11, 2008 01:00 AM (GMT)
The majority of our members is more important than one.

I can't make it but GL.

But I do suggest a soldier count.
(You know like 10 v 10 instead..?)

Lamb Bug - October 11, 2008 01:04 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (damon @ Oct 10 2008, 11:27 PM)
no hell no... full out no cap... lamb stop bulling around.. im tired of this.. people underestimating us... people think al is just a pushover noob clan. Im tired of this.. im not war leader of a noob clan... thats all i know... and i think its time to show them.. but to do it im gonna need FULL support for this clan, and after we beat IF people will no longer see us as a pushover clan. I think its about time for me to do a part as warleader anyways. I wanna show people al is no noobs and that we have what it takes to not only hang with the 80+ clans, but we are better.  Now the question is how many of you can make this war? i want full response and participation... what time can fit the majority of our members?

Damon, you want me to "stop bulling around." I want you to stop kidding yourself.


Compare these:
http://www.runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=al_clan 3 lvl 100+, of dubious activity.

http://runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=redup2
9 level 100+.


That is not fair. And also, you are warlord. You lead the clan in wars. You do not accept or decline official wars.

Redup2 - October 11, 2008 01:20 AM (GMT)
Personally I say go for it.

damon - October 11, 2008 01:22 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Lamb Bug @ Oct 10 2008, 08:04 PM)
QUOTE (damon @ Oct 10 2008, 11:27 PM)
no hell no... full out no cap... lamb stop bulling around.. im tired of this.. people underestimating us... people think al is just a pushover noob clan. Im tired of this.. im not war leader of a noob clan... thats all i know... and i think its time to show them.. but to do it im gonna need FULL support for this clan, and after we beat IF people will no longer see us as a pushover clan. I think its about time for me to do a part as warleader anyways. I wanna show people al is no noobs and that we have what it takes to not only hang with the 80+ clans, but we are better.  Now the question is how many of you can make this war? i want full response and participation... what time can fit the majority of our members?

Damon, you want me to "stop bulling around." I want you to stop kidding yourself.


Compare these:
http://www.runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=al_clan 3 lvl 100+, of dubious activity.

http://runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=redup2
9 level 100+.


That is not fair. And also, you are warlord. You lead the clan in wars. You do not accept or decline official wars.

my name is kid so i kid? but im not now..
we are fighting them. Good pull we can win.. people leave cuz we dont get enough wars but who cares if we lose? do you? i dont? i care if we fight or turn our and run like girls.

emad559 - October 11, 2008 01:37 AM (GMT)
Damon is right we need to show more people that we aren't a clan full of noobs and that we can win some good wars. So if we do war them I can make it.

Lamb Bug - October 11, 2008 01:49 AM (GMT)
BUT WE ALREADY BEAT IMPERIAL! WHAT HAPPENED? NOTHING!


There is no reason for us to fight this war. We have fought them alot, and we will not have a chance.

They have been around for nearly twice as long as us, and expect us to fight them no rules?

That is borderline offensive!


I am sorry but I will not let AL fight a war they have no chance of winning.


EDIT: If this a fun war, with no topic, then we can fight.

damon - October 11, 2008 02:26 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Lamb Bug @ Oct 10 2008, 08:49 PM)
BUT WE ALREADY BEAT IMPERIAL! WHAT HAPPENED? NOTHING!


There is no reason for us to fight this war. We have fought them alot, and we will not have a chance.

They have been around for nearly twice as long as us, and expect us to fight them no rules?

That is borderline offensive!


I am sorry but I will not let AL fight a war they have no chance of winning.


EDIT: If this a fun war, with no topic, then we can fight.

ok cool so you agree to this war then :D w00t.. u clearly said ur not gonna let us fight a war we wont have a chance in... well good i know we have a chance with a good pull so therefore thanks for backing me.

rsw armoury - October 11, 2008 02:38 AM (GMT)
We're a weaker clan, so we don't accept any wars, and we don't ever war, so we stay a weak clan. We're never going to break the cycle if we keep up like this. We need to start coming out of the closet and fight some wars here, especially outmatched wars so we gain some good experience. Heck I don't think this war is outmatched at all. Warring has NOTHING to do with levels, in fact, several of the top warring clans consist of lvl 60-90s. Ascendency has beaten a lot of clans that double their levels with even opts. Dv once won a 10 v 94 war and their all lvl 60-70. Warring is all about skill, and we need to get out there and earn these skills or else we won't get anywhere. We have to start low, and this is the lowest there there. These guys are nowhere near RAW standards. I've been fighting top 10 RAW for a year now, and Damon seems really experienced too. We have great potential here, and if we don't utilize it, we gonna fall behind. I say lets accept this war and get somewhere for once.

3monightmar3 - October 11, 2008 03:41 AM (GMT)
i agree with rsw here...i think u guyz r good enuf 2 win this war! just go full out everything allowed and use tactics to ur advantage :D

Coldsteelx - October 11, 2008 10:57 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (damon @ Oct 10 2008, 08:22 PM)
i care if we fight or turn our and run like girls.

I'm a girl...and I don't run...so i say we fight 'em B)

I'm available weekends from 6pm-12am gmt.

Lamb Bug - October 11, 2008 12:14 PM (GMT)
Redup, fun war means no topics...keep that in mind.

puremain - October 11, 2008 12:32 PM (GMT)
I can only make saturday nights before 7pm gmt (as i go to work at that time) Any other night is fine by me. king

FiveBrain - October 11, 2008 02:58 PM (GMT)
I agree with Damon and Rsw. You wan to be the best???? The beat the best. IF is not the best, but if we win this war we will be recognized as a good solid clan and many more people will join.... then we face another clan that, on paper, looks better than us and we win more members join.... its a never ending cycle. As long as we keep winning we'll get better.

Redup2 - October 11, 2008 03:12 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Lamb Bug @ Oct 11 2008, 07:14 AM)
Redup, fun war means no topics...keep that in mind.

If either of us win we are making a topic. We also never agreed to a funwar, we want this official.

Chuffa - October 11, 2008 05:46 PM (GMT)
WAR :)

I hope this doesn't end up with a max level cap..

G1345 - October 11, 2008 06:56 PM (GMT)
I don't get it?

I know Ancient-Legion must move forward etc.. but i am fully behind Lamb Bug on this one.

An 85 + declaring on a 60+?

First we have to show we can beat 70+ clans.

rsw armoury - October 11, 2008 09:11 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (G1345 @ Oct 11 2008, 01:56 PM)
I don't get it?

I know Ancient-Legion must move forward etc.. but i am fully behind Lamb Bug on this one.

An 85 + declaring on a 60+?

First we have to show we can beat 70+ clans.

Level doesn't matter dude.

Over Power5 - October 11, 2008 09:22 PM (GMT)
count me there

and truly level doesn't matter we can have people who bind and other who mage the hell out of them rofl :jester:

bravehero12 - October 12, 2008 01:11 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (rsw armoury @ Oct 11 2008, 04:11 PM)
QUOTE (G1345 @ Oct 11 2008, 01:56 PM)
I don't get it?

I know Ancient-Legion must move forward etc.. but i am fully behind Lamb Bug on this one.

An 85 + declaring on a 60+?

First we have to show we can beat 70+ clans.

Level doesn't matter dude.

it kinda does

Chuffa - October 12, 2008 08:48 AM (GMT)
How does level not matter? Higher levels obviously give them superior strength..

steven917 - October 12, 2008 09:54 AM (GMT)
I think Full Out is suicide. We should have a person count.

Redup2 - October 13, 2008 04:57 AM (GMT)
Can I get a yes or no on this?

rsw armoury - October 13, 2008 05:07 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Chuffa @ Oct 12 2008, 03:48 AM)
How does level not matter? Higher levels obviously give them superior strength..

Organization > individual skill > numbers > levels

Imagine a 20 v 20 match. Team A has all lvl 70s and team B has all lvl 80. Imagine all 20 team A members attacking one person from team B. In about two hits, he's dead and move on to the next. Members of team B will try to pile a member of team A off the start. The lvl 70 doesn't have much defense, but that doesn't matter, Team B can't even attack him at all. After a long time of trying to kill the guy, they finally succeed. Unable to regain organization after one kill, Team B starts randomly piling. In the end, Team A wins.

The more people in a war, the less levels matter, because the harder it is to keep organization.

Redup2 - October 13, 2008 03:55 PM (GMT)
So....yes...or no

Lamb Bug - October 13, 2008 03:59 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Redup2 @ Oct 13 2008, 04:57 AM)
Can I get a yes or no on this?

We'll fight a fun war with you. No topics.

We will decide time and date with you later.

Redup2 - October 13, 2008 04:08 PM (GMT)
I dont see a point in a fun war other than it being safer.

Lamb Bug - October 13, 2008 05:50 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Redup2 @ Oct 13 2008, 04:08 PM)
I dont see a point in a fun war other than it being safer.

I do. There's probably no way we're going to beat you full-out, no-cap, so it'll be good practice for us. However, I don't want you guys gloating over us, so it's gotta be a fun war so there are no topics involved.

Redup2 - October 13, 2008 05:53 PM (GMT)
Because we make a topic doesnt mean we are gloating though. It's just a topic, nobody is gonna point and say 'haha' cause you lost.

aliath - October 13, 2008 06:38 PM (GMT)
May I suggest negociating the rules? Try arranging a level cap and/or matched ops. Someone said " be the best, beat the best ", I don't think Imperial Forces in the best, if they challenge 60+ clans to a full out...

Redup2 - October 13, 2008 06:43 PM (GMT)
I clearly remember asking your opinion Aliath

aliath - October 13, 2008 06:48 PM (GMT)
Sorry, I tend to browse my allies forums alot and I was only backing up Lamb Bug's statements.

Redup2 - October 13, 2008 06:57 PM (GMT)
There is a difference between backing Lamb up and half insulting Imperial along with just convincing them to say no for your own benefit

aliath - October 13, 2008 07:05 PM (GMT)
I said that if they wouldn't try to negociate, they wouldn't be considered the best. I was half backing you up, Redup, since I was asking Lamb to maybe consider your app.

Redup2 - October 13, 2008 07:18 PM (GMT)
No, what you said is "its best you make a level or number cap cause a fullout is suicide" along with "If isnt the best they challenged a 60+ clan" Will you people [BEEP]ing get over requirments? I've honestly never seen people take them into so much consideration, they do not [BEEP]ing make up an entire war




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