Title: What do you think of this?
Lamb Bug - August 24, 2008 09:49 PM (GMT)
I want to save this clan. I'm not ready to see it die. Therefore, I have a novel suggestion to make. Please share your thoughts.
I would like to propose Golden coming back as co-leader. Although he left, his other clan just fell apart, meaning he could use a spot. Secondly, he would seriously help AL: he may not be the highest level, but he's a superb administrator (no joke) and he'd restore a sense of order to the forums. He's experienced and savvy and hopefully he could do some stuff to get AL back on its feet.
Please share your thoughts, although keep in mind that time may be running out on AL and anything might be worth a try,
DarkChaos - August 24, 2008 10:02 PM (GMT)
i liked it when u and golden were the leaders it was more organized i guess
Jamesino - August 24, 2008 10:03 PM (GMT)
I think it would be a good idea. Go ahead, bring back.
Lamb Bug - August 24, 2008 10:08 PM (GMT)
Ok, I will ask him. Almost sure he will say yes. :lol:
DarkChaos - August 24, 2008 10:15 PM (GMT)
U R Dead Nao - August 24, 2008 10:28 PM (GMT)
i think its a good idea only that he and you both pledge to STAY and not ABUSE power or manipulate others powers.
also i REALLY suggest a forum sweep of every unneeded post or even every post in general and start over.
damon - August 24, 2008 10:34 PM (GMT)
now u wanna bring him back after u lost so many people? Why didnt u do this sooner or why did you leave period? im not seeing ur reasoning for leaving in the first place.
Attickman999 - August 24, 2008 11:26 PM (GMT)
Ya this Is Magik , Thought u would ban man name , so i used an old acc's name :D
so reallythe thing i dont get is :
1) clan runs smooth with lamb and golden
2) golden **cks off
3) lamb cant handle
4) all our active members suggest starting again
5)lamb says no
6) lamb decalres himself inacitve , yet is on more than twice as much as before
7) leaders quit , A.L loses 90% Of Its Strongest Members
8) Now Lamb And Golden Back In Charge ?
I Mean Steps 2-7 Wouldnt Of Happened If Golden Hadnt Left In 1st Place , But Seriously , All This Need'nt Be Done , You Have Gone Bacj To Square One , But this Time With Hardly any 90 +'s ??
DarkChaos - August 24, 2008 11:43 PM (GMT)
its been really rough these past few weeks thats for sure
Golden arm42 - August 24, 2008 11:55 PM (GMT)
Ok, I'm back with AL, and there are several things that I'd like to address first.
1. To Ancient Legion: I'm pretty aware about what's going on. My analysis is this: the clan is suffering from general depression and malaise. Now, the member body has dribbled down considerably. It'll be tough to fix, but not un-doable. First thing that will happen: improve morale. So, please post on the fun threads, and do the very best you can to enhance the good spirit of AL. When I left, everyone was in good spirits. Now, it's not that way. We can, and will, fix that.
2. To DarkChaos: Lamb and I certainly agree to not abuse our power. Frankly, I personally have never abused power in any way. I haven't invaded the privacy of other members, arbitrarily edited/changed posts to reflect my wishes, or done anything like that. I, for one, won't do anything to abuse my power.
3. To Damon and Magik. I understand that you guys may be ticked off at me, rightly or wrongly. That doesn't matter now, and it will not drag this clan down. My message to you is this: as far as I know, you are happy and active in your current positions in TPL. I hope you are. However, since you left AL, there's no reason for you to hang around the forums. The clan will have its hands full with trying to rebuild without you guys hanging around reminding people of the bickering/fighting. I hope you understand what I'm saying.
We can, and will, rebuild AL! Let no one stand in our way. Runescape, be warned: AL is coming back 110%!
Attickman999 - August 25, 2008 12:01 AM (GMT)
Ok Faiir Doooz
Good Luck Ancient Legion
War us Sometime ;)
Lamb Bug - August 25, 2008 12:03 AM (GMT)
Golden you are mostly right. But you forgot some things.
We need to be more active in terms of events. So I propose that if you are playing Runescape at the time of the event, and you can reasonably come to the event, then you should have to.
Magik, we will not be warring you in the near future. You are not helping anything by hanging around the forums, not for us or you.
Attickman999 - August 25, 2008 12:06 AM (GMT)
ok answer my post 2 posts above though please , the one with teh steps
then i will be gone
Coolmage - August 25, 2008 12:06 AM (GMT)
I agree. Most of the people who don't like Golden have already left. Golden please PM me I needa talk to you ;)
Lamb Bug - August 25, 2008 12:07 AM (GMT)
When Golden and I were leading, we had hardly any 90s. Right now we probably have more.
Attickman999 - August 25, 2008 12:11 AM (GMT)
yes but youve lost the bulk of the warring element of the clan
Now tbh , In Wars Sand Is GunnaSave Ur 455
But Good Luck Guys , Gave Me Good Expericne , So I Guess this Is goodbye After Lamb Replies ;)
Coolmage - August 25, 2008 12:13 AM (GMT)
Orichocos didn't come to one event... <_<
Lamb Bug - August 25, 2008 12:14 AM (GMT)
True, but when Golden and I were happily leading, we didn't have Robb or Homies or Prank and you were a noob..... Also we didn't have Connor or Orichocos.
Attickman999 - August 25, 2008 12:17 AM (GMT)
ahhh the good old days ;)
Well GL , Later on :D
FiveBrain - August 25, 2008 12:22 AM (GMT)
Sounds good, welcome back gold :D Im still thinking about leaving though :blink: Hope we can fix all this ;)
Golden arm42 - August 25, 2008 12:22 AM (GMT)
I'm glad we met, Magik, although our times may be have rocky at places. Best of luck in life to you. :rolleyes:
Attickman999 - August 25, 2008 12:26 AM (GMT)
Yeah u 2 :D
you guys are welcome at my 100cb party , dont delte me until about 10 days time
ill post details
Golden arm42 - August 25, 2008 12:28 AM (GMT)
Ok, I'll try to be there. In advance, gratz on 100 cb! :D
FiveBrain - August 25, 2008 12:35 AM (GMT)
|QUOTE (Golden arm42 @ Aug 24 2008, 07:28 PM)|
| Ok, I'll try to be there. In advance, gratz on 100 cb! :D |
+1 ;) :D
damon - August 25, 2008 12:53 AM (GMT)
yea i got right to be mad at you... golden.. u left lamb under sole rule in the first place, and we all know you are the better leader then him, and without you he couldnt rule as we all ended up seeing.. and i did try to revive the clan the best i could, and i really thought i could, but it just kept getting worse. Tbh you got james 100% but idk about sand. He was originally with rob but then i asked him to hang around in clan and join ect ect yet he still didnt give definitive answers on staying. But i needed help in acp so he stayed... other then that idk if he is staying... he might who knows... anyways... i have no regrets for leaving because it seemed obvious nothing was getting done anyways even when i tried. Even with just me and the loyal members i couldnt get nothing done.. too much outside interference, connor in oris clan, brand and tech in cbox pissing every1 off, and split activity in clan, just liek 4 of us would be on at the same time at most. I tried to rally up the clan when magik homies and rob left but still it was too much pressure on me to fix lamb/ your mistakes. Not only did i have to fix your mistakes, but i had to go beyond that to get the clan moving forward again. Yea but like i said, why are you guys coming back when the clan is virtually at the breaking point? Coming back now shows you could have came back earlier, or didnt have to leave at all. What makes it worse is your lil brother lamb has the nerve to call me a quitter (1) before i even left the clan, and (2) after he quit and left me with his burden. Plus all i have done for this clan... Ive been here from the beggining, right after u and lamb made this clan, i was first to join and atm last to leave, so how the hell am i a quitter? Im a quitter for not wanting to clean up lamb's mess? Im a quitter for not having help other than prank and occasionally necro? Plus as said a million times, after lamb "quits" he becomes more active then ever before? wtf is that about? yes lamb did abuse his power, i mean wtf? from when magik left and i was sole leader he was tring to take power back... first thing he did was try to move cc back to his name... umm why? you werent the leader? yea it was good times under you both, but you two leaving really wrecked this clan. I mean really did u think this clan would do good by itself without you guys? Even if you werent good leaders (not saying you werent) but leaving instantly puts a power struggle into the equation. Yes me and magik were appointed... but was it right for you to just appoint 2 of us like that? other members had same right to leadership as us. So that was a week long issue, then we had to deal with the problems you guys left us with when u left. So how was this clan gonna deal? You didnt think of that when you quit now did you? Yea i quit too, but i know there is pretty much nothing less. We were less then 10 memebers.... its not like we were gaining members fast enough to replenish either... prank was planning on leaving so that would have left what? 7 of us with me as leader? i was gonna try to salvage our members and make a new clan sort of say, but really whats the point? Ill have to be there for a whole 5 months like i did this 1 for things to start looking good? hell no, So quitting was the only option. I wanted a clan enviornment but wasnt getting it, so i joined a "clan" not a bunch of my friends fighting each other.
Golden arm42 - August 25, 2008 01:28 AM (GMT)
Damon, I understand your frustration. Real life stuff prevented me from leading, as I said earlier. I will try my best to do so now.
I'm sorry that you're POed. Please, though, don't take it out on this clan. I never said you're a quitter, I'm thankful that you tried to keep the clan going, and I'm grateful you were active as long as you could be, but, you're not in the clan anymore.
Please, let us try to rebuild without added distractions.
damon - August 25, 2008 02:04 AM (GMT)
ok but if u came back earlier i woulda had no problem staying...........